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Created by Greenroom > 9 months ago, 4 Dec 2015
Greenroom
WA, 7608 posts
4 Dec 2015 10:52PM
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So we chuck a few baited hooks out to get rid of a few sharks and all the do gooders lose their shiz.
Then a few fish wash up dead on the beach and no one gives a truck.
Please explain?

thedrip
WA, 2355 posts
5 Dec 2015 12:13AM
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Greenroom said...
So we chuck a few baited hooks out to get rid of a few sharks and all the do gooders lose their shiz.
Then a few fish wash up dead on the beach and no one gives a truck.
Please explain?


It's been 35 years since there was ever any actual snapper in the fish and chips when you asked for snapper so nobody actually knows what a pinky is anymore?

jbshack
WA, 6913 posts
5 Dec 2015 10:16AM
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Greenroom said..
So we chuck a few baited hooks out to get rid of a few sharks and all the do gooders lose their shiz.
Then a few fish wash up dead on the beach and no one gives a truck.
Please explain?


What makes you think they don't give a **** Maybe its media that you need to be jumping on not the conservationists.
Also though on the flip side, why would people who support killing sharks have a issue with fish stocks of snapper dying out It goes both way..


Oh and have you ever considered that a large scale fish die off could have something to do with a ocean being out of balance Even more reason to stop interfering with the Ocean IMHO

jbshack
WA, 6913 posts
5 Dec 2015 11:06AM
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Greenroom said..
So we chuck a few baited hooks out to get rid of a few sharks and all the do gooders lose their shiz.
Then a few fish wash up dead on the beach and no one gives a truck.
Please explain?


I just read this on my FB and i thought of this thread again..So i thought i share

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"To those people complaining or thinking that there isn't enough focus on the species dying at Cockburn Sound currently - DO SOMETHING other than complain. As the organiser of the No Shark Cull rallies - I hadn't held a protest before, I was scared, but the issue meant so much to me that I felt I couldn't sit on my hands or just complain on Facebook - I needed to make it an issue. I am still focussing on this issue - I am also currently in NSW - so instead of leaving it to the people who are usually the ones planning rallies and protests and who are usually burnt out as a result - perhaps YOU can stand up and organise some action on this. If the issue means so much to you that you take the time to design posters blaming others for not doing anything - You could have used that time to make a positive difference! Instead of pointing fingers to others - start pointing them towards yourself. I dare you!"

captainkaos
WA, 247 posts
5 Dec 2015 1:34PM
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Well i didnt organise a rally, but i did email the minister for fisheries 3 times asking for answers with no replies. Also phoned fisheries direct and when talking to them got the feeling i was wasting their time.

The issue here is that an amateur fisher has so many rules to abide by (which i would say 99% do) The penaltys are high for those that dont. I abide them because I'd like my kids to enjoy catching fish and its great to see our fisheries managed well.

But when somthing like this comes along it seems its not such a big deal. Still no answers. someone knows what happened. Not an imbalance like you suggest me thinks JB.

Im not in support of drum lines, but shouldnt we be more worried about the shark fin industry in other parts of the world?
Those are no threat to humans and are killed in masses.

jbshack
WA, 6913 posts
5 Dec 2015 2:59PM
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captainkaos said..
Well i didnt organise a rally, but i did email the minister for fisheries 3 times asking for answers with no replies. Also phoned fisheries direct and when talking to them got the feeling i was wasting their time.

The issue here is that an amateur fisher has so many rules to abide by (which i would say 99% do) The penaltys are high for those that dont. I abide them because I'd like my kids to enjoy catching fish and its great to see our fisheries managed well.

But when somthing like this comes along it seems its not such a big deal. Still no answers. someone knows what happened. Not an imbalance like you suggest me thinks JB.

Im not in support of drum lines, but shouldnt we be more worried about the shark fin industry in other parts of the world?
Those are no threat to humans and are killed in masses.


What about the shark finning industry in Australia..That should also be stopped..

Either way my point is why do people say its the job of conservationists to act, to complain as the first post suggests.. I say I'm not a conservationist but i want answers to the way our oceans are managed. I also started out sending letters and emails so guess what Captn, your now a conservationist

Lets hope they find answers soon, their are now reports of Penguins being found dead also..

captainkaos
WA, 247 posts
5 Dec 2015 7:02PM
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No im not a conservationist. I just get pretty heated up knowing that a recreational fisher gets completely reamed if they do something wrong, even on a small scale and somehow a corporation can pollute water and kill thousands of fish and other marine life with no consequence. There must be a scientist clever enough to work this out.

jbshack
WA, 6913 posts
5 Dec 2015 7:23PM
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captainkaos said..
No im not a conservationist. I just get pretty heated up knowing that a recreational fisher gets completely reamed if they do something wrong, even on a small scale and somehow a corporation can pollute water and kill thousands of fish and other marine life with no consequence. There must be a scientist clever enough to work this out.


Nope your a greenie Well as much as i am anyway So far the fish have been tested and nothing has turned up..I will say i little to no faith in Fisheries.

There needs to be more of an outcry though i agree, i guess the point is its not news worthy for the media networks so its getting little to no air.

jbshack
WA, 6913 posts
6 Dec 2015 7:39AM
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Greenroom said..
So we chuck a few baited hooks out to get rid of a few sharks and all the do gooders lose their shiz.
Then a few fish wash up dead on the beach and no one gives a truck.
Please explain?


Sadly i work Saturdays so i look forward to you representing for us Greenroom



Greenroom
WA, 7608 posts
6 Dec 2015 7:40AM
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Well let's just hope that the sharks are also getting poisoned and dying too.

jbshack
WA, 6913 posts
6 Dec 2015 11:23AM
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Greenroom said..
Well let's just hope that the sharks are also getting poisoned and dying too.


With a post like that, you obviously have no idea how the ocean works.

thedrip
WA, 2355 posts
6 Dec 2015 12:28PM
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Greenroom said...
Well let's just hope that the sharks are also getting poisoned and dying too.



Let's kill all the Bears, lions, hippos, Tigers, dogs, crocodiles and anything else that kills people.

While we are at it, let's ban cars. Those things are a death trap. And motorcycles. And don't forget peanut butter.

I reckon we should also start looking at stonefish, irukandji and blue ring octopuses. Get rid of cassowaries in far North Queensland.

And possibly cut down all trees in campsites - those things have been known to drop limbs and crush people.


Or we could...

Here's a thought....

Accept that many of life's activities have an inherent risk.


Next time you drive to work maybe consider that.

mitchbat
WA, 399 posts
6 Dec 2015 2:41PM
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^^^bait taken. Still plenty to catch in here



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