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Created by SP > 9 months ago, 29 Jan 2015
SP
10982 posts
29 Jan 2015 7:32AM
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Good mid length surfing.

McHenry
SA, 1739 posts
29 Jan 2015 10:06AM
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Watched this yesterday, guy had wicked style super flowy. The type of surfing that is nice to watch.

surfanimal
NSW, 1658 posts
29 Jan 2015 10:38AM
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Super nice !

Ted the Kiwi
NSW, 14256 posts
29 Jan 2015 10:45AM
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Super nice wave and some good surfing. Board looks to be too big though if you ask me

SP
10982 posts
29 Jan 2015 7:52AM
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What makes you say that Ted?

I think it's a bit of LB style / technique coming through?

And yeah maybe it is a bit over volumed but it is a mid so hard to get all the volume out of them and who wants too, that is why they are fun to ride..

Tux
VIC, 3829 posts
29 Jan 2015 10:58AM
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I love love love that video...so much that I am going out to buy some blanks to make myself a 7'6 or a 7'4 or a 7'2 egg...maybe like 2 1/4 x 22...

SP
10982 posts
29 Jan 2015 8:05AM
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Tux said...
I love love love that video...so much that I am going out to buy some blanks to make myself a 7'6 or a 7'4 or a 7'2 egg...maybe like 2 1/4 x 22...



I have one based loosely on this...
But more like the flo egg...
www.surfboardsbydonaldtakayama.com/surfboards/mid-length/howard-special-mini/

Mines a bit narrower, pulled in tail and low low rails.. Single fin only 2.
Have ridden the thing to death.

Tux
VIC, 3829 posts
29 Jan 2015 11:24AM
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SP said..

Tux said...
I love love love that video...so much that I am going out to buy some blanks to make myself a 7'6 or a 7'4 or a 7'2 egg...maybe like 2 1/4 x 22...




I have one based loosely on this...
But more like the flo egg...
www.surfboardsbydonaldtakayama.com/surfboards/mid-length/howard-special-mini/

Mines a bit narrower, pulled in tail and low low rails.. Single fin only 2.
Have ridden the thing to death.


I am super jelly...I want one

thePup
13831 posts
29 Jan 2015 8:53AM
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Haha ... The taxidermy man he gonna have a heart attack when he see what porn you brought in

SP
10982 posts
29 Jan 2015 8:55AM
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Tux said...
SP said..

Tux said...
I love love love that video...so much that I am going out to buy some blanks to make myself a 7'6 or a 7'4 or a 7'2 egg...maybe like 2 1/4 x 22...




I have one based loosely on this...
But more like the flo egg...
www.surfboardsbydonaldtakayama.com/surfboards/mid-length/howard-special-mini/

Mines a bit narrower, pulled in tail and low low rails.. Single fin only 2.
Have ridden the thing to death.


I am super jelly...I want one


It's not a Tak. So don''t get too jealous.

Get out to the shed and knock one out..

Macaha
QLD, 21976 posts
29 Jan 2015 11:26AM
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Ted the Kiwi said..
Super nice wave and some good surfing. Board looks to be too big though if you ask me



Thats what I've been saying for day ffsYep cool clip and super cool matching track

Macaha
QLD, 21976 posts
29 Jan 2015 12:11PM
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Fishing is so much fun, looks like my bag is filling fast

smh
NSW, 7269 posts
29 Jan 2015 1:18PM
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Really enjoyed that SP. That board looks like an 8 footer and he makes it sing. Nice waves too.

smh
NSW, 7269 posts
29 Jan 2015 1:22PM
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Having another look the board might be a bit shorter. I reckon anything would go good in waves like that.

Tux
VIC, 3829 posts
29 Jan 2015 3:22PM
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smh said..
Having another look the board might be a bit shorter. I reckon anything would go good in waves like that.


I think I read somewhere its a 7'2

McHenry
SA, 1739 posts
29 Jan 2015 4:07PM
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Tux said..

smh said..
Having another look the board might be a bit shorter. I reckon anything would go good in waves like that.



I think I read somewhere its a 7'2


Yep, at the end it shows the dims, It is a 7.2

smh
NSW, 7269 posts
29 Jan 2015 5:39PM
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Tux said..

smh said..
Having another look the board might be a bit shorter. I reckon anything would go good in waves like that.



I think I read somewhere its a 7'2


He must be a little bloke because it looks big under his feet. Don't know why there is fuss about mid length boards. I always had a few and loved them.

chrispy
WA, 9675 posts
29 Jan 2015 2:50PM
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smh said..

Tux said..


smh said..
Having another look the board might be a bit shorter. I reckon anything would go good in waves like that.




I think I read somewhere its a 7'2



He must be a little bloke because it looks big under his feet. Don't know why there is fuss about mid length boards. I always had a few and loved them.


I agree. my new one is the most fun board I have surfed over the most conditions his board did look over volumed though... I do love that smooth style of surfing,just so nice to watch

MickPC
8266 posts
29 Jan 2015 3:02PM
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^+1 good surfer & great waves. But I guess its a little fat & maybe a shifty peak, so the extra volume might help him paddle over to where he needs to be. I have a space in my quiver for one of those boards

smh
NSW, 7269 posts
29 Jan 2015 6:04PM
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chrispy said..

smh said..


Tux said..



smh said..
Having another look the board might be a bit shorter. I reckon anything would go good in waves like that.





I think I read somewhere its a 7'2




He must be a little bloke because it looks big under his feet. Don't know why there is fuss about mid length boards. I always had a few and loved them.



I agree. my new one is the most fun board I have surfed over the most conditions his board did look over volumed though... I do love that smooth style of surfing,just so nice to watch


I agree about the board looking a little big but it didn't hinder him in any way.

Ted the Kiwi
NSW, 14256 posts
29 Jan 2015 6:23PM
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SP said..
What makes you say that Ted?

I think it's a bit of LB style / technique coming through?

And yeah maybe it is a bit over volumed but it is a mid so hard to get all the volume out of them and who wants too, that is why they are fun to ride..



I was just having some early morning banter with the mid length crew

Those waves looked just about perfect to me - except he had a wetsuit on. I dream of sessions like that. I have not had enough of them in the last 12 months.

In terms of his surfing - its fair to say he surfs really good. Think he was hoping he was on a shortboard a few times and then at other times he showed some nice longboard style. Perhaps that sums up the joy of the mid-length. I wish Chrispys single fin was a touch thicker and I would buy it.

In terms of the board it self - its the old fashioned widowmaker. Some good stuff on the history of those floating around

http://nowtro.com/flv_portfolio/widowmaker/

The original Widow-maker I shaped in 1988 for an extended surfari to Jeffrey’s Bay. On previous trips there I had been unhappy with my tri-fins, as they simply wouldn’t allow me to ride that most epic of down-the-line waves with the tracks I wanted to follow left by Terry Fitzgerald, Jonathan Paarman, and Reno Abellira from single-fin days. The 6’9” I shaped and took to South Africa altered all my convictions about surfboards and forced me to realize that I was essentially a single-fin surfer at heart. The 6’9” was a wickedly pintailed rocket with a wider and thicker nose, a widepoint placed well forward of center, channels running off the tail, and for an engine a classic Brewer-style single fin set off by a pair of small finlets glassed beside it on each rail. These small side fins give the board a slight tri-fin turning axis and bite off the top at high speeds, but grant versatile single-fin neutrality off the bottom, allowing you to surf the wave rather than the board – with jazz-like riffs and sudden pit-stalls if necessary.The Widow-maker is more than just a turbo-boosted single-fin. It’s a design that lets you go fast when you want; and stop dead in your tracks if the wave calls for it. It allows you to use the entire wave face in complete control, without having to go through the classic tri-fin triple pump wind-up every time you want to do a maneuver.For guns the Widow-maker delivers all the benefits of a single-fin – lower drag, no high-speed max-outs, meaningful bottom turns and greater control in the barrel – yet with the low profile small Widow-maker side fins there’s still always that subtle snap and bite in top turns and cutbacks. The Widow-maker fin configuration adapts well to most designs, but especially big-wave guns and single-fin shapes over 6’5”.And by the way, the Widow-maker is named after the classic Winchester repeating rifle, the firearm that won the West….

SP
10982 posts
29 Jan 2015 4:08PM
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I thought you may have been wetting a line

But it's a good point, there is a fair bit of volume in it.

But I think that is what he is after, a lot like Tudor on his mids they seem to like them to float / plane on top of the water.

And I always wanted a widow maker, shame we don't really get the waves for them.

SMH- It's said its a 7'2 shaped by Tyler Hatz.

This is another clip of him in One Cali day.


chrispy
WA, 9675 posts
29 Jan 2015 4:19PM
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SP said..
I thought you may have been wetting a line

But it's a good point, there is a fair bit of volume in it.

But I think that is what he is after, a lot like Tudor on his mids they seem to like them to float / plane on top of the water.

And I always wanted a widow maker, shame we don't really get the waves for them.

SMH- It's said its a 7'2 shaped by Tyler Hatz.

This is another clip of him in One Cali day.



that was cool....another one I wish was longer

laceys lane
QLD, 19804 posts
29 Jan 2015 8:00PM
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SP said..

Good mid length surfing.



I liked it mostly


good surfing but/except I felt really let down when he was coming of the top.

no rail coming down.


flatten the board out every time

which is weak.

I hate it. its the kind of thing 666's are forced to do in that situation

if that's what you have to do on a mid length forget it



cheers

SP
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29 Jan 2015 6:08PM
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laceys lane said...
SP said..

Good mid length surfing.



I liked it mostly


good surfing but/except I felt really let down when he was coming of the top.

no rail coming down.


flatten the board out every time

which is weak.

I hate it. its the kind of thing 666's are forced to do in that situation

if that's what you have to do on a mid length forget it



cheers


Good point...
Very well articulated.


Could it be where he is coming from. I mean he isn't a short boarder he is a logger. So maybe it is technique 2?

Edit
Wrong clip... Sorry


Right clip.
Him on a log.


chrispy
WA, 9675 posts
29 Jan 2015 6:40PM
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no its the board sp...mine 7'6 and goes top to bottom...not in the space of a hpsb but it well and truly does it with ease. lacey did some it up nicely

SP
10982 posts
30 Jan 2015 10:44AM
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Ok, ill start this by saying. I Probably should watch it on something bigger than an Iphone.


Yeah chrispy, i get the point, do you think it is different in the second clip?


In the first clip i don't think he is trying to or wants it to surf top to bottom. If he did he would be on a SB.
Its also made by Tyler Hatz so i guess it is a bit old school.

My point was simply the bloke comes from a logging background, so his technique, equipment and enjoyment on a wave would be based on riding a LB.
His board are a cut down on that, not a blow up from a SB background.

And my thought is that riding and turning a log is completely different to riding a shortboard and this has carried through to him riding a mid as well. Not like he is going top to bottom on a log to have that as his go to plan when he drops length.


hard to explain .. maybe..

To properly surf a log youre taking a different line on the wave and You're feet are in a different position to that on a SB, Think about a good drop knee cutback , where his feet are and what happens to his knees and body position.

It is a completely different turn to a shortboarder, that is squared off feet across the stringer line.

The bloke has been around ages and has never wanted to or tried to surf like a SB rider. So don't know why people are judging him on a SB criteria or style.

But hey i'll let Roy handle the what is good surfing Q in his thread.


chrispy
WA, 9675 posts
30 Jan 2015 10:47AM
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SP said..
Ok, ill start this by saying. I Probably should watch it on something bigger than an Iphone.


Yeah chrispy, i get the point, do you think it is different in the second clip?


In the first clip i don't think he is trying to or wants it to surf top to bottom. If he did he would be on a SB.
Its also made by Tyler Hatz so i guess it is a bit old school.

My point was simply the bloke comes from a logging background, so his technique, equipment and enjoyment on a wave would be based on riding a LB.
His board are a cut down on that, not a blow up from a SB background.

And my thought is that riding and turning a log is completely different to riding a shortboard and this has carried through to him riding a mid as well. Not like he is going top to bottom on a log to have that as his go to plan when he drops length.


hard to explain .. maybe..

To properly surf a log youre taking a different line on the wave and You're feet are in a different position to that on a SB, Think about a good drop knee turn, where his feet are and what happens to his knees and body position.

It is a completely different turn to a shortboarder, that is squared off feet across the stringer line.

The bloke has been around ages and has never wanted to or tried to surf like a SB rider. So don't know why we are judging him on a SB criteria.

But hey i'll let Roy handle the what is good surfing Q in his thread.





i agree completely mate. i was just answering what i thought was a volume question. but he would have been better doing a nice rail carve than what looked like a poor top turn....... as i said i love that style of surfing. so just smooth and nice to watch. makes it look easy....but its not all easy to say when your kook behind a computer

SP
10982 posts
30 Jan 2015 11:06AM
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chrispy said..

SP said..
Ok, ill start this by saying. I Probably should watch it on something bigger than an Iphone.


Yeah chrispy, i get the point, do you think it is different in the second clip?


In the first clip i don't think he is trying to or wants it to surf top to bottom. If he did he would be on a SB.
Its also made by Tyler Hatz so i guess it is a bit old school.

My point was simply the bloke comes from a logging background, so his technique, equipment and enjoyment on a wave would be based on riding a LB.
His board are a cut down on that, not a blow up from a SB background.

And my thought is that riding and turning a log is completely different to riding a shortboard and this has carried through to him riding a mid as well. Not like he is going top to bottom on a log to have that as his go to plan when he drops length.


hard to explain .. maybe..

To properly surf a log youre taking a different line on the wave and You're feet are in a different position to that on a SB, Think about a good drop knee turn, where his feet are and what happens to his knees and body position.

It is a completely different turn to a shortboarder, that is squared off feet across the stringer line.

The bloke has been around ages and has never wanted to or tried to surf like a SB rider. So don't know why we are judging him on a SB criteria.

But hey i'll let Roy handle the what is good surfing Q in his thread.





i agree completely mate. i was just answering what i thought was a volume question. but he would have been better doing a nice rail carve than what looked like a poor top turn....... as i said i love that style of surfing. so just smooth and nice to watch. makes it look easy....but its not all easy to say when your kook behind a computer


Fark... if i knew you agreed that I wouldn't have typed it ....


chrispy
WA, 9675 posts
30 Jan 2015 11:32AM
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SP said...
chrispy said..

SP said..
Ok, ill start this by saying. I Probably should watch it on something bigger than an Iphone.


Yeah chrispy, i get the point, do you think it is different in the second clip?


In the first clip i don't think he is trying to or wants it to surf top to bottom. If he did he would be on a SB.
Its also made by Tyler Hatz so i guess it is a bit old school.

My point was simply the bloke comes from a logging background, so his technique, equipment and enjoyment on a wave would be based on riding a LB.
His board are a cut down on that, not a blow up from a SB background.

And my thought is that riding and turning a log is completely different to riding a shortboard and this has carried through to him riding a mid as well. Not like he is going top to bottom on a log to have that as his go to plan when he drops length.


hard to explain .. maybe..

To properly surf a log youre taking a different line on the wave and You're feet are in a different position to that on a SB, Think about a good drop knee turn, where his feet are and what happens to his knees and body position.

It is a completely different turn to a shortboarder, that is squared off feet across the stringer line.

The bloke has been around ages and has never wanted to or tried to surf like a SB rider. So don't know why we are judging him on a SB criteria.

But hey i'll let Roy handle the what is good surfing Q in his thread.





i agree completely mate. i was just answering what i thought was a volume question. but he would have been better doing a nice rail carve than what looked like a poor top turn....... as i said i love that style of surfing. so just smooth and nice to watch. makes it look easy....but its not all easy to say when your kook behind a computer


Fark... if i knew you agreed that I wouldn't have typed it ....





I'm glad you wrote it. Changes the way some can look at it from another angle

smh
NSW, 7269 posts
30 Jan 2015 2:43PM
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SP said..
Ok, ill start this by saying. I Probably should watch it on something bigger than an Iphone.


Yeah chrispy, i get the point, do you think it is different in the second clip?


In the first clip i don't think he is trying to or wants it to surf top to bottom. If he did he would be on a SB.
Its also made by Tyler Hatz so i guess it is a bit old school.

My point was simply the bloke comes from a logging background, so his technique, equipment and enjoyment on a wave would be based on riding a LB.
His board are a cut down on that, not a blow up from a SB background.

And my thought is that riding and turning a log is completely different to riding a shortboard and this has carried through to him riding a mid as well. Not like he is going top to bottom on a log to have that as his go to plan when he drops length.


hard to explain .. maybe..

To properly surf a log youre taking a different line on the wave and You're feet are in a different position to that on a SB, Think about a good drop knee cutback , where his feet are and what happens to his knees and body position.

It is a completely different turn to a shortboarder, that is squared off feet across the stringer line.

The bloke has been around ages and has never wanted to or tried to surf like a SB rider. So don't know why people are judging him on a SB criteria or style.

But hey i'll let Roy handle the what is good surfing Q in his thread.



Good points SP.



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