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has anyone windsurfed their sunova wave board???

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Created by Tardy > 9 months ago, 14 Jan 2018
Tardy
5260 posts
14 Jan 2018 12:36PM
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After I brought a sunova flow ,and have noticed most sunova boards have a mast track ,has anyone ever windsurfed theirs
I'm just wondering how it would go and what kind of wind strength you would need...
i have the 120& 130 litre flows ....if i was using a 130 litre board i would need 15 knots with a 7,0 .
I have not had the chance yet ...
just curious ...
HAS anyone had a session worth talking about ...

Stev0
422 posts
14 Jan 2018 5:24PM
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I have the Acid and have pondered about sailing it. The stock Sunova fins look big enough to windsurf and get up wind on. I must give it a go and report back.

I did have a Fanatic ProWave and did sail that. The Fanatic was slow to plane and slow to sail and hard to get up wind but was super loose to gybe.

I am tempted to convert my Deep Minion into a windfoil board seeing as it has the right dimensions.

Nozza
VIC, 2879 posts
14 Jan 2018 8:41PM
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Not a Sunova, but prototype test for my Search that is ordered...

www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Stand-Up-Paddle/SUP/Gun-da-windy?page=1#lastpost

Without the forward fin, very hard to get upwind but would reach back and forward OK

hilly
WA, 7876 posts
14 Jan 2018 6:13PM
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No but I have kited one in super light wind. Went ok but not good enough to repeat. Surely a proper windsurfer would be better especially rocker and having straps. Second hand windsurfers are so cheap why not buy something build for the task. I would imagine dropping the mast and boom onto the sup would not be good for it.
Lightwind floating around for a giggle would be about the limit of the performance I would say. Not even sure why they think it is worth putting them in.

colas
5364 posts
14 Jan 2018 6:18PM
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Tardy said..
After I brought a sunova flow ,and have noticed most sunova boards have a mast track ,has anyone ever windsurfed theirs


Not a Sunova, but I have windsurfed some of my SUP boards:
True SUP boards have a rocker that do not plane well. You feel like you are pushing water and the board does not want to get on the plane.
They are super fun in waves, as you shlog along to get back to the peak, but once on the wave, they are much more "surfy" than true windsurfing boards. On flat water, they will not be fun at all however.

Hybrid SUPs like AHD Sealion are the best with a sail: a fast rocker that can actually plane with a sail, but enough rocker to be loose enough on the wave. But they feel a bit stiffer without a sail than a normal SUP.

Tardy
5260 posts
14 Jan 2018 7:17PM
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interesting
i'm guessing by the low volume in the tail it will be slug like ..
going on a trip ,thinking of taking a rig .(maybe not)

i have sailed my nalu s before ,,,cruzy...but a lot longer...than a 8'10..

hilly
WA, 7876 posts
14 Jan 2018 7:19PM
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Tardy said..
interesting
i'm guessing by the low volume in the tail it will be slug like ..
going on a trip ,thinking of taking a rig .(maybe not)

i have sailed my nalu s before ,,,cruzy...but a lot longer...than a 8'10..


If you just want to putt around on flat water or small waves they will be fine. Depends what your performance criteria is.

FRP
498 posts
14 Jan 2018 10:25PM
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Hi. I had watched some video of wave sailing with the irig inflatable sail. Sounded like a sail that could do little damage to myself, the board and rig in waves was a good idea. I rented a medium sail (the come in 3 sizes) out in light wind on my 8'10" Speeed. The sail is a bit of a noodle and I could sail around on it (sub planing, but not fun and definitely would not use in waves).

Bob

SunnyBouy
473 posts
15 Jan 2018 1:36AM
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Hmmm, yeah I've wave sailed my Flow 8'7 with a 5.3 and it was awful actually.
I went out thinking light wind waves would be good, no straps to worry about so plenty of foot room to move around the board... and all it did was bog and drag around. It had float but wouldn't get up on a wave and surf it, it bogged a lot and became very very stiff to turn, like the tail was dragging.
(you'll understand what I'm saying if you've ever light wind wave sailed)
The board will take a rig, plenty of space to rig flip and turn pivots on the tail (no flare gybes) but the biggest turn off was the lack of speed, it really didn't want to move very quick at all.
Conditions were 3ft x-on 15knts, Flow 8'7, 5.3 wave sail on RDM.

Not going to try it out on my Speeed, and that too has a mast track.

TBH I'm not sure why the tracks are in the boards...

You may have more success on your 8'10 Flow, but I wouldn't over rig it.. max 6.0 in light wind waves would be far better than trying to get it up ripping.

Youve got to have a go, let us know how you get on. My experience has put me right off doing it again.

normster
NSW, 343 posts
15 Jan 2018 2:02PM
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ive got a screw in fitting for a mast base in my stubbie SUP.

thinking of putting sons rig 4.5 on it.

Tardy
5260 posts
15 Jan 2018 11:30AM
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so far it doesn't sound good .
and i kinda thought so, being a windsurfer .and matching it next to my windsurfing boards ,volume in the wrong place ,rounded rails .not enough fin area .I do have some great Tabou boards ,
and the rig will be staying home unless i take a proper board ...hey... i listen to people .

down the track i will get a custom sunova ,I doubt if I will be getting a mast track in it .
THANKS .
still write in if you have a had a good or bad experience .
i reckon you'd need 25 knots just to plane it ,i wouldn't like to have a board in that wind strength , with no footstaps .

if your out there Bert ...save the money and give us $ off

just to add i tried paddling a windsurfing board ...it was ****

Stev0
422 posts
15 Jan 2018 6:23PM
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I think they would only work in side-shore or side-off light wind conditions as in x-onshore SUP will never have enough speed to be fun.

Nozza
VIC, 2879 posts
15 Jan 2018 10:01PM
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I think you are totally missing the point.
they aren't meant to be brilliant windsurf boards, just give you another option if paddle conditions aren't perfect.
I may be wrong, and I am easily amused near the water.

Tardy
5260 posts
15 Jan 2018 7:21PM
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Got some wind this week...I m gonna try it ....

trouble is I will always compare it with a windsurfing board which isn't fair .

billekrub
128 posts
16 Jan 2018 7:31AM
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Shouldn't we compare it to the feeble SUP paddling? When it is too light to enjoy WS, KS but too windy to enjoy SUP/paddle.

peguin
WA, 274 posts
16 Jan 2018 1:23PM
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I had great fun sailing 10ft fanatic sup in waist to shoulder waves in light winds. It was like wave sailing in slow motion. I was on a wave sailing training course and as winds were light the instructor made us all go out in sups in the waves. We all had a blast and learnt a heap as you had time to adjust hands and feet whilst on the waves. I see other instructors now using windsup in waves as part of the coaching method.
Flat water it sucked as board never felt balanced with the forces, but gybes are fun as the tails slides. Had a JP surf with mast mounting and used it when winds were light and no waves for core moves training. That was real helpful.

E T
QLD, 2286 posts
16 Jan 2018 4:21PM
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I thought this was a SUP forum.

Sure there is a Windsurf Forum over the page.

ET.

Nozza
VIC, 2879 posts
16 Jan 2018 6:19PM
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E T said..
I thought this was a SUP forum.

Sure there is a Windsurf Forum over the page.

ET.


Some of us swing both ways ET.
www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Stand-Up-Paddle/SUP/Gun-da-windy?page=1#lastpost
You seem to have been missing for a while?

Jungleman
NSW, 96 posts
16 Jan 2018 9:36PM
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Yep! I have an 8'10 Skate and have sailed it a number of times on flat water and it performed much much better than i expected. Not as good as my windsurf boards of course but pretty damn good. I also have a Fanatic Allwave which is hopeless in comparison as it kept getting bogged down in the tail. I think the small tail and rocker plus the mast mount position too far back is the prob on that. The Skate has a big wide tail on it which seems to make all the difference. I rig a surprisingly small sail on it ( a 5.0 ) and can definitely get it planing when the wind is up ( >18knots). I plan to try my 7.2 on it next time and would expect planing in 15knots quite likely. I can get upwind with it with some persistence by digging the rail in. Even in light wind it moves along well. I am yet to wave sail it but I think it will do well there too. I am quite light for the board at 70kg which also might help . I wouldn`t expect the more surf oriented boards would do as well in the sailing dept as the skate.

SunnyBouy
473 posts
17 Jan 2018 3:25AM
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Light wind wave sailing on SUPs about 10ft is hilarious, definitely a fun thing to do.
But the question was about sub 8'10 Sunova Flows.. and that's the prob.

I had for a short time a NahSkwell 10ft SUP and I used that 50/50 light wind windsup/paddlesup. Worked really well, no plaining just light wind waves with a 5.3 on it.

FRP
498 posts
17 Jan 2018 3:26AM
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Thanks Jungleman

Very helpful. Will consider trying a 5.0 sail on my 8'10" Skate. Did you use the stock 105 Sunova fins?

Cheers

Bob

E T
QLD, 2286 posts
17 Jan 2018 7:51AM
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Nozza said..

E T said..
I thought this was a SUP forum.

Sure there is a Windsurf Forum over the page.

ET.



Some of us swing both ways ET.
www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Stand-Up-Paddle/SUP/Gun-da-windy?page=1#lastpost
You seem to have been missing for a while?


Been busy as a bee Nozza, had two weeks off over Christmas and was so tired from paddling lots of kilometres I didn't even have a beer some nights.
There was absolutely no surf in Noosa until yesterday, so I put in lots of k's on the 14" Glide to build up some stamina. Both ocean and flatwater.
It gets bloody hard to keep up the strength and fitness when you pass 60.

Back at work now and back on a more regular path so expect some responses.

Have you met the new lad in next door?

ET.

Tardy
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17 Jan 2018 6:13AM
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SunovaBouy said..
Light wind wave sailing on SUPs about 10ft is hilarious, definitely a fun thing to do.
But the question was about sub 8'10 Sunova Flows.. and that's the prob.

I had for a short time a NahSkwell 10ft SUP and I used that 50/50 light wind windsup/paddlesup. Worked really well, no plaining just light wind waves with a 5.3 on it.


sound good ...sounds like the nalu ,will be a windsup,as all i have with a track is the sunovas .flow.

good call...sunovabouy .and jungle man .penguin .it sounds like 10 foot and above is the go

keep paddling ET.fitness will come back ..the body says no but the mind says yes ...
its the heat ....nothing like a good paddling followed by a few beers .

Nozza
VIC, 2879 posts
17 Jan 2018 9:27AM
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E T said..

Nozza said..


E T said..
I thought this was a SUP forum.

Sure there is a Windsurf Forum over the page.

ET.




Some of us swing both ways ET.
www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Stand-Up-Paddle/SUP/Gun-da-windy?page=1#lastpost
You seem to have been missing for a while?



Been busy as a bee Nozza, had two weeks off over Christmas and was so tired from paddling lots of kilometres I didn't even have a beer some nights.
There was absolutely no surf in Noosa until yesterday, so I put in lots of k's on the 14" Glide to build up some stamina. Both ocean and flatwater.
It gets bloody hard to keep up the strength and fitness when you pass 60.

Back at work now and back on a more regular path so expect some responses.

Have you met the new lad in next door?

ET.


I think the new lad next door may be our snake friend under suspension for naked kung fu dwarfs with guns.....

Jungleman
NSW, 96 posts
17 Jan 2018 10:48AM
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FRP said..
Thanks Jungleman

Very helpful. Will consider trying a 5.0 sail on my 8'10" Skate. Did you use the stock 105 Sunova fins?

Cheers

Bob


Stock fins when windsurfing, but for surfing I swap out the centre fin now for a smaller fin to make it turn better. I got that suggestion from Bert B.

DARTH
WA, 3028 posts
17 Jan 2018 2:20PM
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Nozza said..

E T said..


Nozza said..



E T said..
I thought this was a SUP forum.

Sure there is a Windsurf Forum over the page.

ET.





Some of us swing both ways ET.
www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Stand-Up-Paddle/SUP/Gun-da-windy?page=1#lastpost
You seem to have been missing for a while?




Been busy as a bee Nozza, had two weeks off over Christmas and was so tired from paddling lots of kilometres I didn't even have a beer some nights.
There was absolutely no surf in Noosa until yesterday, so I put in lots of k's on the 14" Glide to build up some stamina. Both ocean and flatwater.
It gets bloody hard to keep up the strength and fitness when you pass 60.

Back at work now and back on a more regular path so expect some responses.

Have you met the new lad in next door?

ET.



I think the new lad next door may be our snake friend under suspension for naked kung fu dwarfs with guns.....


Spot on Nozza



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