Recently bought myself my first race SUP, a 14' 2016 Allstar. Curiosity got the best of me today and decided to try it out in some small waves.
What I struggled with is turning on the wave... every time I tried to get it on the rail I got nothing or ended in the drink. Ultimately I was just having to point and shoot.
So I ask the question.. What are the techniques to get these to turn on a wave?
You cannot use the rail to turn, because the rail is not designed for it, and anyays you are not going fast enough for a 14' to turn this way.
Just make pivot turns: run to the back to lift the nose & middle out of the water and turn.
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You cannot use the rail to turn, because the rail is not designed for it, and anyays you are not going fast enough for a 14' to turn this way.
Just make pivot turns: run to the back to lift the nose & middle out of the water and turn.
Do this. But always remember to clench your butt checks ....hard!!!!!!
Old skool vid.
2 angles of riding a big needle d1ck sup.
Exibit A.
Beach angle
Dogman,
That's how I imagined it would be.. But in hindsight, big square 6" plus rails ain't gunna allow themselves to get buried in the wave face. Maybe more swinging from the tail as Colas suggested might work for me.....
Yes, get your back foot directly over the fin to turn.
And practice. Then practice some more.
Some 14fters are easier than others. It's tough if you have a lot of volume in the tail, especially if you don't weigh much. But as long as you have enough weight to sink the tail, most boards can be turned if you get back far enough.
It's a skill all of it's own. One of the great things about surfing 14fters and above is that it makes even small waves a challenge. Once you get to shoulder-high and above, it starts to get very exciting. And potentially expensive.
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Recently bought myself my first race SUP, a 14' 2016 Allstar. Curiosity got the best of me today and decided to try it out in some small waves.
What I struggled with is turning on the wave... every time I tried to get it on the rail I got nothing or ended in the drink. Ultimately I was just having to point and shoot.
So I ask the question.. What are the techniques to get these to turn on a wave?
Did you buy the one with the repair in the bottom just before the fin box? 
I have to say, I've been spending more and more time on my 14 in the surf and am loving it more every time I ride it. I've surfed it in all sorts of conditions and all you need to do as has been said above is just get on the back of it. They're amazingly versatile and turn surprisingly well in lots of conditions.. The 2016 Allstar is a perfect all round weapon and will be great on bumps....
Oh, and the vids are super sweet dogman..
Don't think I bought one with a repair..it was a newie off the shelf. If it was repaired, it is well hidden..
I think a bit more practice is in order, but I do enjoy the challenge and it will make my wave board feel like a toy..
Lol, I caught one of the waves of my life on my hobie 14 the other week at the alley, you need to walk the board set and trim get way back on the tail ,get down in a ninja stance, brace yourself with paddle, hang the fk on hope no one is in the way and enjoy the extreme speed
and the book in for a massage the next day
I love surfing the big boards.
Oh yeah ! I just found the dog mans YouTube channel . 10.40 pm happy me not so happy mrs got to have that sound track going
Here's a couple of vids on a 14' glide.
A few tips
- from the first vid: speed is good, and you need to well back on the board and put a lot of weight into a turn otherwise you cant sink the rail at all.
- 2nd vid, that's about as much as you can bury the rail and get away with it
Like others have mentioned, the 14' Allstar has a thick fat tail, not ideal for surfing but to turn a race board off the tail (vs. rail steering from the middle of the board by leaning on the opposite rail) you have to get your back foot over the fin, all the way back.
Here are a few videos of our training group practicing surfing on 14' boards in Hawaii Kai:
Great tips everyone, thanks for posting all those vids. I'm definitely not getting back far enough, and often stack it trying to turn from the middle of the board like on a surfboard.
Ah, and remember that its is very easy for a wave to break a 14' in half... be careful to not let the lip land on your board, even of 1' waves...
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Ah, and remember that its is very easy for a wave to break a 14' in half... be careful to not let the lip land on your board, even of 1' waves...
Yes....That's definitely on my mind. Tried to have a crack at some waves today but they weren't quite breaking, and I was paddling into 15+ knot head wind to get on them.
Don't knock unless you try it, I don't own a board under 14' and surf it a lot. Good practice for down winding. And the bigger wave the better. The only prob is getting caught up in white water.
