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Surfing - the future ?

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Created by billboard > 9 months ago, 9 Feb 2011
billboard
QLD, 2817 posts
9 Feb 2011 11:51AM
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Found this on some euro site - their prediction for surfing by 2015



62mac
WA, 24860 posts
9 Feb 2011 10:03AM
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Bet you won't post that other topic you posted in another forum

goatman
NSW, 2151 posts
9 Feb 2011 1:18PM
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Ha ha, just had a look on the log board forum and saw the 'other' post. Interesting to see all the SUP breezes who also ride mals!

doggie
WA, 15849 posts
9 Feb 2011 10:22AM
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"SUPS... The Next Big Thing in Surfing... You gotta get one!" Bet you've heard that recently, right? Call me shallow, but as a devoted shortboarder I reckon screw 'em. Us poor regular surf folk already have to deal with ignorant kooks, wave hog longboarders, gormless bodyboarders, the odd useless goat boat and crippled kneelo... now we have to compete with these stand-up paddle goons too?

These hodads, for whom the only requirements are general fitness and basic pedestrian balance, seem poised to take over the world's line-ups. Can you think of anything worse? I call it the 'Stand Up Paddleboard Apocalypse', or 'Armaggedon of the One Armed Paddlers'. Either way, it could end the world of surfing as we know it. After all, this is a surfboard (term used loosely here) you can literally ride on a ripple. Turncoat surfers who buy paddleboards aside, the doomsday scenario is if the greater public discover the stand up paddling “work out” en mass, which is already happening. Most popular urban beaches are a nightmare as it is. No room to swing a rashvest. If the SUP elbows its way into the remaining gap, we could conceivably be overwhelmed by these graceless, throwback buffoons with their oversized spoons.

Anyone selling SUPs will be stoked of course, but not the rest of us normal surfers trying to avoid these potential super wave hogs. Even the longboarders are getting bummed. And unlike mal riders, who still require a basic understanding of line up dynamics and surf etiquette (even if these are mostly ignored), as well as rudimentary paddle out and take off skills, SUPs arguably require none, bar said ability to stand upright and dig, which any monkey can do. At most breaks with a decent channel, it's therefore a cinch for Wilbur SUP pilot to wobble about, even if it's pitching thick out the back. Just heave ho and you are out there. Before long SUPs could easily become a factor at most average surfbreaks, where surfers won't even have to ever duckdive, or learn to respect the better surfers in the water, in order to get waves.

Predictably, stand up supporters have protested that the SUP is a good workout and a functional wave-riding machine, and promise that they will not be pigs in the water. But isn't that what the post-revival longboarders all said, and now look at them on a mellow four foot day at your local. And whilst Robbie Naish can indeed ride an SUP at Pipe or Laird or Teehaupo, not everyone has those skill levels, let alone jock suburbanites with more money than sense.

Indeed, throw a couple of clueless or selfish iron man SUP riders - eggbeating into waves from far out the back - into the organised chaos of a good rush hour session and watch the tension mount. It wouldn't take many, maybe three or four SUPs, calling everyone from sets, to completely transform the mellowest rotation and irk even the most chilled locals. What's more, as these SUP scum will conveniently bypass any rites of passage to the ocean, they will of course have to be heckled by indignant regular surfers. As a result there will probably be fights - although maybe only for the most aggressive and surf rage afflicted. Think about it: would you really hurl abuse at some buff gym pratt looming above you in the water holding a massive carbon fibre paddle above your head?

Before long, in a far worse rendition of the longboard revival, SUPs could start to dominate sessions and it will be a case of beat 'em or join 'em - or drive somewhere else, where there will probably be more SUPS anyway, multiplying along the coast like foot rot in a shower. It's a future too bleak to contemplate, although for places like Hawaii, it's apparently already too late. In fact, if these SUP boards and their inept riders take over, it will do nothing but drag our sport back into prehistory. In my opinion, in terms of progressing surfing, the SUP arguably lies somewhere beneath your granny riding a lilo at Newquay. For that reason alone, I will never get a SUP.

russh
SA, 3027 posts
9 Feb 2011 1:34PM
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Never say never.

I never thought I'd be racing toward 50 with greying hair two children a mortgage and a monday to friday job.

I was always gonna live in a shack in the south west of WA and surf my short board every day and grow old disgracefully.

I vowed never to become and 'windwanker" either...................................

towball
4634 posts
9 Feb 2011 11:18AM
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Come on doggie if its that bloody easy give us a foto of you riding a SUB

Revvin
VIC, 299 posts
9 Feb 2011 2:21PM
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I'm more offended by the granny on the lilo comment.......my granny shreds better on a mat than alot of people on other surf craft.



Disclosure: this is not really my granny, she has more hair on her chin and does shred though.

doggie
WA, 15849 posts
9 Feb 2011 11:26AM
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towball said...

Come on doggie if its that bloody easy give us a foto of you riding a SUB




richswing
WA, 724 posts
9 Feb 2011 11:32AM
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Hey Doggie,

I don't sub but been considering it as the waves in Perth suck big time especially if you can only go out on weekends (if you lucky).

I use to surf every weekend Saturday and Sunday all year round, moved to Perth 4+ years ago and have surfed maybe 5 times in total since.

Kitesurfing has made up for the fix but the downside is it must be the most aggrevating sport on earth - always wind dependant, so now I am looking for a fall back or if it does it for me a repalcement sport.

Don't bag it, a time will come when you have to maximize your time and the body starts to fall apart.

Cheers
Rich

doggie
WA, 15849 posts
9 Feb 2011 11:35AM
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My body is already falling apart, Im only having a crack, you know joking. Dont take me to seriously. I dont

richswing
WA, 724 posts
9 Feb 2011 11:38AM
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Hey Doggie,

Just check your profile, sorry your older than me!

Cheers
Rich

towball
4634 posts
9 Feb 2011 11:41AM
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Na your tail is different to that and your ears don't look right ( you got me lol)

doggie said...

towball said...

Come on doggie if its that bloody easy give us a foto of you riding a SUB







jasdeking
QLD, 1820 posts
9 Feb 2011 2:02PM
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doggie said...

"SUPS... The Next Big Thing in Surfing... You gotta get one!" Bet you've heard that recently, right? Call me shallow, but as a devoted shortboarder I reckon screw 'em. Us poor regular surf folk already have to deal with ignorant kooks, wave hog longboarders, gormless bodyboarders, the odd useless goat boat and crippled kneelo... now we have to compete with these stand-up paddle goons too?

These hodads, for whom the only requirements are general fitness and basic pedestrian balance, seem poised to take over the world's line-ups. Can you think of anything worse? I call it the 'Stand Up Paddleboard Apocalypse', or 'Armaggedon of the One Armed Paddlers'. Either way, it could end the world of surfing as we know it. After all, this is a surfboard (term used loosely here) you can literally ride on a ripple. Turncoat surfers who buy paddleboards aside, the doomsday scenario is if the greater public discover the stand up paddling “work out” en mass, which is already happening. Most popular urban beaches are a nightmare as it is. No room to swing a rashvest. If the SUP elbows its way into the remaining gap, we could conceivably be overwhelmed by these graceless, throwback buffoons with their oversized spoons.

Anyone selling SUPs will be stoked of course, but not the rest of us normal surfers trying to avoid these potential super wave hogs. Even the longboarders are getting bummed. And unlike mal riders, who still require a basic understanding of line up dynamics and surf etiquette (even if these are mostly ignored), as well as rudimentary paddle out and take off skills, SUPs arguably require none, bar said ability to stand upright and dig, which any monkey can do. At most breaks with a decent channel, it's therefore a cinch for Wilbur SUP pilot to wobble about, even if it's pitching thick out the back. Just heave ho and you are out there. Before long SUPs could easily become a factor at most average surfbreaks, where surfers won't even have to ever duckdive, or learn to respect the better surfers in the water, in order to get waves.

Predictably, stand up supporters have protested that the SUP is a good workout and a functional wave-riding machine, and promise that they will not be pigs in the water. But isn't that what the post-revival longboarders all said, and now look at them on a mellow four foot day at your local. And whilst Robbie Naish can indeed ride an SUP at Pipe or Laird or Teehaupo, not everyone has those skill levels, let alone jock suburbanites with more money than sense.

Indeed, throw a couple of clueless or selfish iron man SUP riders - eggbeating into waves from far out the back - into the organised chaos of a good rush hour session and watch the tension mount. It wouldn't take many, maybe three or four SUPs, calling everyone from sets, to completely transform the mellowest rotation and irk even the most chilled locals. What's more, as these SUP scum will conveniently bypass any rites of passage to the ocean, they will of course have to be heckled by indignant regular surfers. As a result there will probably be fights - although maybe only for the most aggressive and surf rage afflicted. Think about it: would you really hurl abuse at some buff gym pratt looming above you in the water holding a massive carbon fibre paddle above your head?

Before long, in a far worse rendition of the longboard revival, SUPs could start to dominate sessions and it will be a case of beat 'em or join 'em - or drive somewhere else, where there will probably be more SUPS anyway, multiplying along the coast like foot rot in a shower. It's a future too bleak to contemplate, although for places like Hawaii, it's apparently already too late. In fact, if these SUP boards and their inept riders take over, it will do nothing but drag our sport back into prehistory. In my opinion, in terms of progressing surfing, the SUP arguably lies somewhere beneath your granny riding a lilo at Newquay. For that reason alone, I will never get a SUP.




wow nice read :) so is it ok to surf if you don't have a paddle? i only ask cause i do get you...not taking the piss...so i was thinking next time i go for a sup...i'll just leave the paddle on the beach and surf the board the other way and see if that is more acceptable to the line up? That would answer some questions about the mentality of the line up

billboard
QLD, 2817 posts
9 Feb 2011 2:40PM
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Hey doggie - hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah - I just knew that this would end up biting you on the ar#e (fugt if I know why but its only the end result that matters mate)

I thought it was a really good read and very very funny - good work doggie

doggie
WA, 15849 posts
9 Feb 2011 12:55PM
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billboard said...

Hey doggie - hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah - I just knew that this would end up biting you on the ar#e (fugt if I know why but its only the end result that matters mate)

I thought it was a really good read and very very funny - good work doggie


BB

beerssup
NSW, 513 posts
9 Feb 2011 5:54PM
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doggie said...

"SUPS... The Next Big Thing in Surfing... You gotta get one!" Bet you've heard that recently, right? Call me shallow, but as a devoted shortboarder I reckon screw 'em. Us poor regular surf folk already have to deal with ignorant kooks, wave hog longboarders, gormless bodyboarders, the odd useless goat boat and crippled kneelo... now we have to compete with these stand-up paddle goons too?

These hodads, for whom the only requirements are general fitness and basic pedestrian balance, seem poised to take over the world's line-ups. Can you think of anything worse? I call it the 'Stand Up Paddleboard Apocalypse', or 'Armaggedon of the One Armed Paddlers'. Either way, it could end the world of surfing as we know it. After all, this is a surfboard (term used loosely here) you can literally ride on a ripple. Turncoat surfers who buy paddleboards aside, the doomsday scenario is if the greater public discover the stand up paddling “work out” en mass, which is already happening. Most popular urban beaches are a nightmare as it is. No room to swing a rashvest. If the SUP elbows its way into the remaining gap, we could conceivably be overwhelmed by these graceless, throwback buffoons with their oversized spoons.

Anyone selling SUPs will be stoked of course, but not the rest of us normal surfers trying to avoid these potential super wave hogs. Even the longboarders are getting bummed. And unlike mal riders, who still require a basic understanding of line up dynamics and surf etiquette (even if these are mostly ignored), as well as rudimentary paddle out and take off skills, SUPs arguably require none, bar said ability to stand upright and dig, which any monkey can do. At most breaks with a decent channel, it's therefore a cinch for Wilbur SUP pilot to wobble about, even if it's pitching thick out the back. Just heave ho and you are out there. Before long SUPs could easily become a factor at most average surfbreaks, where surfers won't even have to ever duckdive, or learn to respect the better surfers in the water, in order to get waves.

Predictably, stand up supporters have protested that the SUP is a good workout and a functional wave-riding machine, and promise that they will not be pigs in the water. But isn't that what the post-revival longboarders all said, and now look at them on a mellow four foot day at your local. And whilst Robbie Naish can indeed ride an SUP at Pipe or Laird or Teehaupo, not everyone has those skill levels, let alone jock suburbanites with more money than sense.

Indeed, throw a couple of clueless or selfish iron man SUP riders - eggbeating into waves from far out the back - into the organised chaos of a good rush hour session and watch the tension mount. It wouldn't take many, maybe three or four SUPs, calling everyone from sets, to completely transform the mellowest rotation and irk even the most chilled locals. What's more, as these SUP scum will conveniently bypass any rites of passage to the ocean, they will of course have to be heckled by indignant regular surfers. As a result there will probably be fights - although maybe only for the most aggressive and surf rage afflicted. Think about it: would you really hurl abuse at some buff gym pratt looming above you in the water holding a massive carbon fibre paddle above your head?

Before long, in a far worse rendition of the longboard revival, SUPs could start to dominate sessions and it will be a case of beat 'em or join 'em - or drive somewhere else, where there will probably be more SUPS anyway, multiplying along the coast like foot rot in a shower. It's a future too bleak to contemplate, although for places like Hawaii, it's apparently already too late. In fact, if these SUP boards and their inept riders take over, it will do nothing but drag our sport back into prehistory. In my opinion, in terms of progressing surfing, the SUP arguably lies somewhere beneath your granny riding a lilo at Newquay. For that reason alone, I will never get a SUP.







Keep cranking boys,just like herpies we are annoying and here to stay

CMC
QLD, 3954 posts
9 Feb 2011 5:27PM
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I'd love to get one of those T-shirts that says:

Stand Up Paddle Sucks: Don't try it...


Edit: For the intellectually challenged I thought I better explain that this is Irony. This kind of shirt would be a worn by SUP'ers and maybe even made by a SUP company.

doggie
WA, 15849 posts
9 Feb 2011 3:28PM
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hehe

jasdeking
QLD, 1820 posts
9 Feb 2011 6:04PM
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hmmm maybe i will wonder over to the other forums .... huh? what the? sob!

doggie
WA, 15849 posts
9 Feb 2011 4:44PM
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CMC said...

I'd love to get one of those T-shirts that says:

Stand Up Paddle Sucks: Don't try it...


Edit: For the intellectually challenged I thought I better explain that this is Irony. This kind of shirt would be a worn by SUP'ers and maybe even made by a SUP company.


Where can I get one

billboard
QLD, 2817 posts
9 Feb 2011 8:29PM
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Before anyone has a big cry about everyone picking on sups and getting all sooky and precious I should clarify that the post that doggie put up was actually an article written by a journalist of sorts who lives in south africa and the article was posted in a Euro blog which I read recently. I think the article was really funny and I personally took it as a bit of a piss take and not once since reading it have I cried myself to sleep at night. I surf and sup and I can see some small elements of truth in what the guy was saying but overall its just a fun read and thats it. (did I get you outta trouble doggie *

loco4olas
NSW, 1525 posts
9 Feb 2011 10:49PM
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billboard said...

Found this on some euro site - their prediction for surfing by 2015






Geez-I wish the SUP forum wasn't so soft and Laurie would bring back the red thumbs.....

beerssup
NSW, 513 posts
9 Feb 2011 10:56PM
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doggie said...

CMC said...

I'd love to get one of those T-shirts that says:

Stand Up Paddle Sucks: Don't try it...


Edit: For the intellectually challenged I thought I better explain that this is Irony. This kind of shirt would be a worn by SUP'ers and maybe even made by a SUP company.


Where can I get one


one or some!!

SandS
VIC, 5904 posts
9 Feb 2011 11:12PM
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doggie said...

"SUPS... The Next Big Thing in Surfing... You gotta get one!" Bet you've heard that recently, right? Call me shallow, but as a devoted shortboarder I reckon screw 'em. Us poor regular surf folk already have to deal with ignorant kooks, wave hog longboarders, gormless bodyboarders, the odd useless goat boat and crippled kneelo... now we have to compete with these stand-up paddle goons too?

These hodads, for whom the only requirements are general fitness and basic pedestrian balance, seem poised to take over the world's line-ups. Can you think of anything worse? I call it the 'Stand Up Paddleboard Apocalypse', or 'Armaggedon of the One Armed Paddlers'. Either way, it could end the world of surfing as we know it. After all, this is a surfboard (term used loosely here) you can literally ride on a ripple. Turncoat surfers who buy paddleboards aside, the doomsday scenario is if the greater public discover the stand up paddling “work out” en mass, which is already happening. Most popular urban beaches are a nightmare as it is. No room to swing a rashvest. If the SUP elbows its way into the remaining gap, we could conceivably be overwhelmed by these graceless, throwback buffoons with their oversized spoons.

Anyone selling SUPs will be stoked of course, but not the rest of us normal surfers trying to avoid these potential super wave hogs. Even the longboarders are getting bummed. And unlike mal riders, who still require a basic understanding of line up dynamics and surf etiquette (even if these are mostly ignored), as well as rudimentary paddle out and take off skills, SUPs arguably require none, bar said ability to stand upright and dig, which any monkey can do. At most breaks with a decent channel, it's therefore a cinch for Wilbur SUP pilot to wobble about, even if it's pitching thick out the back. Just heave ho and you are out there. Before long SUPs could easily become a factor at most average surfbreaks, where surfers won't even have to ever duckdive, or learn to respect the better surfers in the water, in order to get waves.

Predictably, stand up supporters have protested that the SUP is a good workout and a functional wave-riding machine, and promise that they will not be pigs in the water. But isn't that what the post-revival longboarders all said, and now look at them on a mellow four foot day at your local. And whilst Robbie Naish can indeed ride an SUP at Pipe or Laird or Teehaupo, not everyone has those skill levels, let alone jock suburbanites with more money than sense.

Indeed, throw a couple of clueless or selfish iron man SUP riders - eggbeating into waves from far out the back - into the organised chaos of a good rush hour session and watch the tension mount. It wouldn't take many, maybe three or four SUPs, calling everyone from sets, to completely transform the mellowest rotation and irk even the most chilled locals. What's more, as these SUP scum will conveniently bypass any rites of passage to the ocean, they will of course have to be heckled by indignant regular surfers. As a result there will probably be fights - although maybe only for the most aggressive and surf rage afflicted. Think about it: would you really hurl abuse at some buff gym pratt looming above you in the water holding a massive carbon fibre paddle above your head?

Before long, in a far worse rendition of the longboard revival, SUPs could start to dominate sessions and it will be a case of beat 'em or join 'em - or drive somewhere else, where there will probably be more SUPS anyway, multiplying along the coast like foot rot in a shower. It's a future too bleak to contemplate, although for places like Hawaii, it's apparently already too late. In fact, if these SUP boards and their inept riders take over, it will do nothing but drag our sport back into prehistory. In my opinion, in terms of progressing surfing, the SUP arguably lies somewhere beneath your granny riding a lilo at Newquay. For that reason alone, I will never get a SUP.




Theres no way I will read the attached. Note to self ...... " happy thoughts ,happy thoughts , happy thoughts ,happy thoughts , happy thoughts ,happy thoughts , happy thoughts ,happy thoughts , happy thoughts ,happy thoughts ,

doggie
WA, 15849 posts
9 Feb 2011 8:59PM
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Boobs! (.)(.)

doggie
WA, 15849 posts
9 Feb 2011 9:02PM
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billboard said...

Before anyone has a big cry about everyone picking on sups and getting all sooky and precious I should clarify that the post that doggie put up was actually an article written by a journalist of sorts who lives in south africa and the article was posted in a Euro blog which I read recently. I think the article was really funny and I personally took it as a bit of a piss take and not once since reading it have I cried myself to sleep at night. I surf and sup and I can see some small elements of truth in what the guy was saying but overall its just a fun read and thats it. (did I get you outta trouble doggie *


Lol, thanks BB not sure I needed it tho

SandS
VIC, 5904 posts
10 Feb 2011 12:10AM
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doggie said...

Boobs! (.)(.)


yeah !! now your talkin !! (0)(0)(0)(0)(0)(0)(0)(0)(0)(0)(0)(0)(0)(0)
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laceys lane
QLD, 19804 posts
9 Feb 2011 11:36PM
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all shortboarders are fun loving, laid back guys sharing the stoke out in the water.

sup pers should take notice of their example
cheers

dtm
NSW, 1610 posts
10 Feb 2011 12:44AM
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all i took outta this is boobs!

towball
4634 posts
10 Feb 2011 3:47AM
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Not in this part of the world ,( you've been smoking )

laceys lane said...

all shortboarders are fun loving, laid back guys sharing the stoke out in the water.

sup pers should take notice of their example
cheers


doggie
WA, 15849 posts
10 Feb 2011 9:07AM
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laceys lane said...

all shortboarders are fun loving, laid back guys sharing the stoke out in the water.

sup pers should take notice of their example
cheers


Its funny that you say that, Im a member of a boardriders and I recon we have the most fun. Some of the guys SUP & longboard and are fully stoked!!
Our anual cricket match on the weekend was a classic, lots of smiles and heaps of fun.

See shortboarders do like to have fun

Nobody kitesurfs tho



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