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Sunny Coast, DW Ace v C/Runner

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Created by JonesySUP > 9 months ago, 30 May 2012
JonesySUP
QLD, 872 posts
30 May 2012 10:14AM
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(Monday 25k southerly wind)

Swanie and myself took the 14' x 30 Starboard Coast Runner and 14' x 25 Ace out yesterday. "Thank you Johno from SupFun Cotton tree"
It was fantastic downwind conditions from Moffats to Mooloolaba. One of the best downwind runs we have ever done. Thanks Wind Gods.

1. The Coast Runner is a fantastic downwind board. It wanted to grab every bump the ocean had and run with it. As soon as a bump presented itself it lifted the tail and took off. I had some great runners and would have to say the longest I've had as well. The board made connecting one runner to the next very easy. The little Tiki character on the front was nearly talking to me saying “come on lets go”. It was like the board was enjoying itself as much as I was.
Pro's
The stability is fantastic and it has heaps of glide. I love the drainage holes as they worked perfectly for getting rid of water on the deck. It was easy to turn on the runners and has heaps of deck space to walk forward and back when on a wave.
Negatives
Wouldn't smash records at the lake.

2. The Ace was like riding a wild bull leaping on to bumps with little disregard for the rider! As speed goes it smashed the Coastrunner, but I did fall off 4-5 times.
The Stability was supa hard but tracking left or right helped.
Negatives.
Hard moving up and down the board, the well fillng up with water at times making it hard to paddle till it drained out and stability.
Pro's
SPEED, It put's a big smile on ya face and it would smash records at the lake!

Cheers Jonesy










sckitesurf
QLD, 191 posts
30 May 2012 10:35AM
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Thanks Guy's looks like U had a epic run. Waves looked like they were working well for U.
That wind must of been pushing U along as it as quite strong. How long did the down winder take & did U see those sharks out there yesterday? LOL.

PTWoody
VIC, 3982 posts
30 May 2012 11:10AM
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Excellent account and that would be my evaluation of both boards too. Perfect analogy with the Ace on a downwinder - a wild bull with little regard for the rider. Beau O'Brian managed to win the Southern Cross DW race on the weekend on a Coast Runner in pretty wild conditions. He had the choice of an Ace and there were 3 or 4 other quick paddlers on Aces. But up above 30 knots, the speed advantage of the Ace seems to dissipate due to control challenges.

DavidJohn
VIC, 17569 posts
30 May 2012 12:01PM
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Great review and pictures.. Thanks.. Did you get any vid?

IMO.. It's not all about speed.. But I have to admit that fast can be fun..

DJ

PTWoody
VIC, 3982 posts
30 May 2012 1:43PM
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DavidJohn said...

IMO.. It's not all about speed.. But I have to admit that fast can be fun..





Yes IMO, the Coast Runner is more fun but the Ace will get you there faster, albeit, you may need to change your board shorts at the finish.

Ali Cat
QLD, 1205 posts
30 May 2012 2:04PM
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Great review Jonesy!
I too had the chance to try out the Coast Runner (I thought it was 28" wide?) for the first time in the downwinder at the Southern Cross SUP Festival over the weekend and this board is loads of fun in good/strong downwind conditions.
It might not be the fastest board in the flats, but when in it's element, it was definitely one of the easiest boards i've had the chance to downwind on. The glide was fantastic, manoeuvrability between runs was effortless and the stability was great too!
The faster speed of the Ace in flatwater and lighter winds will mean it's always got a place in my quiver, but for stronger winds, or just getting out there and having loads of fun, I'd love to be able to add a Coast Runner too!

PTWoody
VIC, 3982 posts
30 May 2012 3:24PM
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Ali Cat said...
(I thought it was 28" wide?)



Correct

JonesySUP
QLD, 872 posts
30 May 2012 5:39PM
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sckitesurf said...

Thanks Guy's looks like U had a epic run. Waves looked like they were working well for U.
That wind must of been pushing U along as it as quite strong. How long did the down winder take & did U see those sharks out there yesterday? LOL.


The Ace did the 14k's run in just over 1 hour and the Coast runner was about 20 minutes behind.
PS Didn't see any sharks but if we did the times would have gone down

JonesySUP
QLD, 872 posts
30 May 2012 5:41PM
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DavidJohn said...

Great review and pictures.. Thanks.. Did you get any vid?

IMO.. It's not all about speed.. But I have to admit that fast can be fun..

DJ

Sorry DJ no video, next time!

Ali Cat
QLD, 1205 posts
30 May 2012 6:40PM
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JonesySUP said...
The Ace did the 14k's run in just over 1 hour and the Coast runner was about 20 minutes behind.


Anything to do with the paddlers

Swanie
QLD, 1372 posts
30 May 2012 6:55PM
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Ali Cat said...

JonesySUP said...
The Ace did the 14k's run in just over 1 hour and the Coast runner was about 20 minutes behind.


Anything to do with the paddlers



Harsh

RJK
QLD, 622 posts
30 May 2012 7:00PM
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Ali Cat said...

JonesySUP said...
The Ace did the 14k's run in just over 1 hour and the Coast runner was about 20 minutes behind.


Anything to do with the paddlers



I'd say so!! The guy with the red boardies doesn't look like he knows how to stay on the runs

And I know swanie is killing it round the lake at the moment!

RJK
QLD, 622 posts
30 May 2012 7:01PM
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Swanie said...

Ali Cat said...

JonesySUP said...
The Ace did the 14k's run in just over 1 hour and the Coast runner was about 20 minutes behind.


Anything to do with the paddlers



Harsh



Lucky jonsey isn't sensitive then!!

laceys lane
QLD, 19804 posts
30 May 2012 7:07PM
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good review, however its not quite even when the ace was carbon and the c/runner was ast

Ali Cat
QLD, 1205 posts
30 May 2012 7:16PM
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Swanie said...

Ali Cat said...

JonesySUP said...
The Ace did the 14k's run in just over 1 hour and the Coast runner was about 20 minutes behind.


Anything to do with the paddlers



Harsh



Sorry Swanie, I didn't mean it that way!!!

Just noting that from my experience paddling the 2 boards, although the Ace is definitely a faster board, there wasn't 25% difference in speed between them (especially in downwind conditions). I'm probably digging myself deeper into a hole here, but for anyone considering the 2 boards it's probably important to know that the speed difference isn't quite as much as it sounds.

I had actually thought you guys might have been swapping boards along the run to give them both a try.

Swanie
QLD, 1372 posts
30 May 2012 7:20PM
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Ali Cat said...

Swanie said...

Ali Cat said...

JonesySUP said...
The Ace did the 14k's run in just over 1 hour and the Coast runner was about 20 minutes behind.


Anything to do with the paddlers



Harsh



Sorry Swanie, I didn't mean it that way!!!

Just noting that from my experience paddling the 2 boards, although the Ace is definitely a faster board, there wasn't 25% difference in speed between them (especially in downwind conditions). I'm probably digging myself deeper into a hole here, but for anyone considering the 2 boards it's probably important to know that the speed difference isn't quite as much as it sounds.

I had actually thought you guys might have been swapping boards along the run to give them both a try.




All cool. Jonsey is a much faster DW paddler then myself.

Wasn't racing him on the run though. Just having fun.

Ali Cat
QLD, 1205 posts
30 May 2012 7:22PM
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Swanie said...
... Just having fun.

Well you were on the best board for that!!!

laceys lane
QLD, 19804 posts
30 May 2012 7:28PM
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Swanie said...

Ali Cat said...

Swanie said...

Ali Cat said...

JonesySUP said...
The Ace did the 14k's run in just over 1 hour and the Coast runner was about 20 minutes behind.


Anything to do with the paddlers



Harsh



Sorry Swanie, I didn't mean it that way!!!

Just noting that from my experience paddling the 2 boards, although the Ace is definitely a faster board, there wasn't 25% difference in speed between them (especially in downwind conditions). I'm probably digging myself deeper into a hole here, but for anyone considering the 2 boards it's probably important to know that the speed difference isn't quite as much as it sounds.

I had actually thought you guys might have been swapping boards along the run to give them both a try.




All cool. Jonsey is a much faster DW paddler then myself.

Wasn't racing him on the run though. Just having fun.



naish are going to hear about this

TrevT
QLD, 136 posts
30 May 2012 7:42PM
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Right next time skipping school!!!!! hahaha

Swanie
QLD, 1372 posts
30 May 2012 7:54PM
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TrevT said...

Right next time skipping school!!!!! hahaha


I did

Swanie
QLD, 1372 posts
30 May 2012 8:04PM
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laceys lane said...


naish are going to hear about this


Ha ha Lacey. Actually part of me organizing this massive demo day on the 17th is I am keen for a new board but not sure what and couldn't think of a better way of demoing most of the top boards in the industry on the same day in the same location and condition. Turned into a massive event with council permits added insurance and lots of paper work. Hoping on perfect weather for day. Are you comming up. Would like to see what you do the lake in. Heard your on a killer board now.

laceys lane
QLD, 19804 posts
30 May 2012 8:11PM
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Swanie said...

laceys lane said...


naish are going to hear about this


Ha ha Lacey. Actually part of me organizing this massive demo day on the 17th is I am keen for a new board but not sure what and couldn't think of a better way of demoing most of the top boards in the industry on the same day in the same location and condition. Turned into a massive event with council permits added insurance and lots of paper work. Hoping on perfect weather for day. Are you comming up. Would like to see what you do the lake in. Heard your on a killer board now.


yeah, i'm getting old and only doing unlimited now. it such a beautifully balanced board to boot.

JonesySUP
QLD, 872 posts
30 May 2012 9:35PM
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To be honest, I think the two boards in that wind (18-25knots) are similar in speed, but if I was racing and I had to pick one..... I would grab the coast runner

But the question to you all is...... The Excel race next week has a 8k flat water paddle at the end! Which board would you grab in the same wind?????????

jt737
QLD, 418 posts
30 May 2012 9:38PM
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Easy. The Starboard Ace but in the 27" like mine. Just back from a quick across the bay from Mooloolaba to Maroocydore. The 27" is so much more stable than the 25" which I had prior. It's in the ocean that the extra stability comes in and it just jumps onto runners and goes....

Swanie
QLD, 1372 posts
30 May 2012 9:52PM
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JT, did you go carbon or AST?

jt737
QLD, 418 posts
30 May 2012 9:59PM
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Regrettably the AST which whilst heavy at 17kg to lug off the car and into the water,doesn't seem to matter once you get it moving.
Would love a carbon version though.

laceys lane
QLD, 19804 posts
30 May 2012 10:45PM
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i'm intrigued with carbon coast runner. the extra weight off would make a big difference dwing and in the flats too



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