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Queensland titles this weekend in Brisbane

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Created by SurfConnect > 9 months ago, 8 Feb 2012
SurfConnect
QLD, 1674 posts
8 Feb 2012 5:33PM
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Saturday downwinder, competitors briefing 9.30am at Sandgate (corner of 7th Ave and Flinders Pde), race starts 11.30am.

Sunday 6km & 1500m races. Briefing 8.30am. First race 10am.

You can enter on the day.

Details at www.surfconnect.com under events.

chrispychru
QLD, 7932 posts
8 Feb 2012 6:52PM
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ok,i will ask. which one off the 200 state titles is this? umm like ar where doe this one rank on the scale from um ar 1 to ar um 200

62mac
WA, 24860 posts
8 Feb 2012 6:13PM
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What three days notice I was booked in the other state titles all three of them,so do I need to win all three to be crowned the champ.

This is BS and NOT doing your sport any good what so ever,its a joke.Lovely mud lined beaches at Sandgate

husq2100
QLD, 2031 posts
8 Feb 2012 8:16PM
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is the DW'r in the ocean?

laceys lane
QLD, 19804 posts
8 Feb 2012 8:26PM
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actually, moreton bay is pretty good for dw ing. we did a 24 k er on christmas eve.

have you ever checked out the wind swell when there's a blow aboard the north straddie ferry

RJK
QLD, 622 posts
8 Feb 2012 8:41PM
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its a race, who cares what its called!!!!!

SUPPORT IT! stop complaining

paul.j
QLD, 3368 posts
8 Feb 2012 8:46PM
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So if you win this QLD titles and then go to your Aussies can you go to things like the ISA games if you win? Stoked you are having a comp but just call it what it is and don't claim things that it is not.
It's just like me saying tomorrow morning at training who ever wins will be QLD champ!!!

There's going to be heaps of correct info on all this stuff coming out pretty soon and hopefully that will clear a whole lot of false claiming stuff up!!

surf4fun
WA, 1313 posts
8 Feb 2012 7:03PM
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Why can't these be the state titles for what they are? They are running different events to surfing Australia and the line I got at least from surfing WA is that their charter points them towards surfing so that's what they will be putting their efforts into. We all know SUP is about more than just surfing or just DW'ING or just flat water so as far as I'm concerned if one governing body is going to overlook a major component of our sport why shouldn't or can't someone else stand up and represent that area of the sport?

No you can't go to ISA games but I think and I might be out of line here but other than BOP the next closest style of SUP that will get you to representing your country is through flat water sprints when it becomes an Olympic event. You only have to look at events like the silver blade regatta in the US to see how big flat water racing can be. And who knows what SUPA might lead to in terms of winning state/nationals, I think a bit more clarification is needed on that rather than here you go your national champ and that's it.

62mac
WA, 24860 posts
8 Feb 2012 7:13PM
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paul.j said...


There's going to be heaps of correct info on all this stuff coming out pretty soon and hopefully that will clear a whole lot of false claiming stuff up!!


And about time I say,the sooner this is sorted out once and for all the better for the sport.

BTW a new QLD champ will be announced tomorrow at LM just a bunch of longboard breezers getting together I'm sure to be in the top three,only three going

paul.j
QLD, 3368 posts
8 Feb 2012 9:18PM
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62mac said...

paul.j said...


There's going to be heaps of correct info on all this stuff coming out pretty soon and hopefully that will clear a whole lot of false claiming stuff up!!


And about time I say,the sooner this is sorted out once and for all the better for the sport.

BTW a new QLD champ will be announced tomorrow at LM just a bunch of longboard breezers getting together I'm sure to be in the top three,only three going


That means there will be at least 2 QLD champs tomorrow, hope you win Mac!! My money is on you

Ali Cat
QLD, 1205 posts
8 Feb 2012 9:22PM
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The ISA games include Sup surfing, a short course BOP style race and a marathon race so pretty much caters for everything except really short sprints. Who knows if the interests is there then maybe they will expand it a few years down the track, but as it stands, and being in its first year, the format really does cover enough aspects of the sport for any competitive Sup athlete to aim for.
From this year onwards, the Surfing Australia national titles, and the titles in each respective state branch will have qualifying competitions in all 3 ISA disciplines. Though Surfing Australia obviously has its origins in surfing and logically moving on to sup surfing, i think they are working on pushing the racing side of the sport too, and I'm excited to see what's in store for the future.
I think it's good that SUPA are organizing more events across the country (the more events are run, the more people will become involved in our sport) just as some others have said would like a bit more clarity as to the validity of calling it a state title and what it leads to.

DUDE
NSW, 1132 posts
8 Feb 2012 10:25PM
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62mac said...


BTW a new QLD champ will be announced tomorrow at LM just a bunch of longboard breezers getting together I'm sure to be in the top three,only three going


62mac's tactics for tomorrow,
think Steven Bradbury

62mac
WA, 24860 posts
8 Feb 2012 7:30PM
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Hoping for one no show (asea) because I have that Chrispy punk covered

Tractorguy
TAS, 543 posts
8 Feb 2012 10:48PM
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laceys lane said...

actually, moreton bay is pretty good for dw ing. we did a 24 k er on christmas eve.

have you ever checked out the wind swell when there's a blow aboard the north straddie ferry


or the suc from behind it,



PTWoody
VIC, 3982 posts
8 Feb 2012 11:26PM
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It would make a lot more sense if these "not-quite-state-titles" changed names to SUPA League or something else like that. Why claim to be state titles when you have no authority to do so and no qualification pathway to international events? Sure it's nice to have some more events to compete in, but when these events cannibalise existing state and national titles, that simply isn't in the best interests of the sport. It is BS and makes for a laughing stock as our longboarding friend pointed out above.

As for the reference to Olympics, if and when that opportunity arises, once again, Surfing Australia would be the government sanctioned national body overseeing selection, just as they do for ISA.

surf4fun
WA, 1313 posts
8 Feb 2012 10:02PM
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PTWoody said...


As for the reference to Olympics, if and when that opportunity arises, once again, Surfing Australia would be the government sanctioned national body overseeing selection, just as they do for ISA.


I'm just going on what I've been told from surfing wa and they are focused a lot more on surfing, so much so they aren't even running the 20km marathon at the upcoming WA state titles, which is an ISA event. Does that mean hypothetically someone from WA can't represent Australia at the ISA games or even get to the nationals as we have no qualifiers?

PTWoody
VIC, 3982 posts
9 Feb 2012 11:08AM
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surf4fun said...

PTWoody said...


As for the reference to Olympics, if and when that opportunity arises, once again, Surfing Australia would be the government sanctioned national body overseeing selection, just as they do for ISA.


I'm just going on what I've been told from surfing wa and they are focused a lot more on surfing, so much so they aren't even running the 20km marathon at the upcoming WA state titles, which is an ISA event. Does that mean hypothetically someone from WA can't represent Australia at the ISA games or even get to the nationals as we have no qualifiers?


Speak to Neil Thompson at Surfing WA. I expect there will be a 20km marathon.

KellyM
QLD, 97 posts
9 Feb 2012 10:12AM
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I think SUPA have every right to call this their state titles as they are an Austrailian organization, just because it won't get you to the ISA games doesn't mean it has no validity, the only reason that surfing Australia have that connection is that they've been taking surfers, longboarders and body boarders to this event since it began so of course they would take stand up on board, which is awesome.
Look at the world championship events this year, there are three different organizations claiming to be running one, can you tell me who won the ISA surfing last year and is that person the world surfing champ or is Kelly Slater through the ASP, no disrespect to any, but all organizations can call their event what they want.
In my opinion the two UNOFFICAL world championship event are Molokai for distance and California BOP for short course

surf4fun
WA, 1313 posts
9 Feb 2012 8:44AM
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It's like the NBA, NHL and MLB they all crown "world champions" but are they truely world champs if only played in the US? I guess until someone can provide a club team better than they have all right to claim world champs. If surfing Australia or whoever isn't going to have titles for a 1500m or 6km event why can't someone else? I don't think there is anything stopping you from having multiple state title holders in one sport, just different disciplines. I guess the determining factor is how many people you have compete for that title which will give it any clout or reputation. Hell I'm the WA champ for people who drive x-trails, are right handed and are married with 1kid, but because there isn't much competition the title doesn't mean much. So as has been said before its another comp, let's get behind it and see where it takes US.

PTWoody
VIC, 3982 posts
9 Feb 2012 11:53AM
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Kelly, with respect, what you have to ask yourself is, what's in the best interests of SUP? To have multiple state titles? To confuse the market place?

And if SUPA was being completely honest, would they prefer that Surfing Australia events were eliminated by their own efforts to stage similarly named events, thereby giving themselves unlimited priority and status?

The point is, why create a series of SUP events designed and intended to destroy another existing series of SUP events? We all agree that it's great that we have more quality events to attend and compete. But when they are intended to cannibalise each other, that cannot be in the best interests of the sport.

Simple solution - run the SUPA events but call them something else. It's just not that hard. A little creativity goes a long way.

rager
QLD, 437 posts
9 Feb 2012 11:05AM
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Due to it's poularity it looks like there's a grab for the sport going on by a number of different but already established sporting bodies. Is it just a grab for the extra bucks or are there intentions to help grow the sport? There are two different and very distinct forms of SUP. Race and Surf, which perhaps should be governed by seperate sporting bodies because of the different types of paddlers from completely different backgrounds and even countries that each will attract.

Would it be best for the surfing bodies i.e Surfing Australia, ISA, ASP etc. to run the surf events and perhaps the outrigger bodies or other Kayak/paddling organisations to run the race events or should the SUP bodies be in controll of the sport?

teatrea
QLD, 4177 posts
9 Feb 2012 11:07AM
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Who cares , im going no matter what they call it. Why not have the two organizations fighting it out , the one thats willing to invest the most in SUP will come out the winner. Game On

dtm
NSW, 1610 posts
9 Feb 2012 1:03PM
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You guys should just be stocked there are any events to go in at all just go have fun and participate as if you don't you might find there's no events to go in??

Minkee
QLD, 225 posts
9 Feb 2012 12:03PM
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The only title that will stick in people's mind is the one fought out by the best athletes on the same day.

ISA and ASP are two different beasts with different structure and business orientation and as such the top athletes end up going where the money is.
It is just the same with everything, you have amateurs and pros. You can have an amateur title and a pro title if you want but the general public will only care/remember about one. Every sports is the same...

I don't know the line-up of this week-end but considering the crop we had last week-end for the Supsa DW (bar Kelly and Peasy), it was close to be a full spec Aussie title...

AFISH
2 posts
9 Feb 2012 11:05AM
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Why is Surfing Australia, a surfing association, declaring themselves "the controllers" of SUP competitions?

There is SUP Australia, a "stand up paddle" association.

Is Surfing Australia involved in SUP because they think there is money in it for them? If there was money in kite-surfing and windsurfing, would Surfing Australia also want to be the controller of those competitions as well? Where does it stop?

And should SUP Australia start running longboard or shortboard surfing competitions?

It's pretty simple, from the way I see it. A stand up paddle association for stand up paddle.

If anyone wants to run sup competitions, great. I don't see SUP Australia saying no-one else can run SUP competitions. The more SUP events, the better for SUP.

The fact that a Surfing Association wants to “control” SUP for themselves is causing politics, displaying bad sportsmanship and just making it downright unpleasant for everyone.

goatman
NSW, 2151 posts
9 Feb 2012 3:14PM
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AFISH said...

Why is Surfing Australia, a surfing association, declaring themselves "the controllers" of SUP competitions?

There is SUP Australia, a "stand up paddle" association.

Is Surfing Australia involved in SUP because they think there is money in it for them? If there was money in kite-surfing and windsurfing, would Surfing Australia also want to be the controller of those competitions as well? Where does it stop?

And should SUP Australia start running longboard or shortboard surfing competitions?

It's pretty simple, from the way I see it. A stand up paddle association for stand up paddle.

If anyone wants to run sup competitions, great. I don't see SUP Australia saying no-one else can run SUP competitions. The more SUP events, the better for SUP.

The fact that a Surfing Association wants to “control” SUP for themselves is causing politics, displaying bad sportsmanship and just making it downright unpleasant for everyone.




I don't know about them wanting to control it, but they do a pretty good job of running it (the surfing bit anyways). Professional judging and computerised scoring with commentry make for a pretty slick event IMO.

I would have thought it would have made more sense for SUPA to concentrate on the race side of things.

The thing that seems to get people's noses out of joint is the lack of communication regarding events. In Vic for example their original dates clashed with other events already on the calendar (from memory).

Personally I am happy to have both lots of events and will try to get to all of them, more the merrier

Makaha
1145 posts
9 Feb 2012 12:33PM
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Pioneers

husq2100
QLD, 2031 posts
9 Feb 2012 3:33PM
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at a basic level there is nothing wrong with an organisation having a go.....but, one that is involved with more than one sup brand and that has handled itself they way SUPA has, clearly it hasnt got the backing of alot of punters.

people are speaking out, these are the same people that SUPA are trying to get as "customers".....maybe they should listen a bit more instead of going about there business with what seems a bit of an arogant attitude.

disclamer: I do not race or surf sup compete.

a question though, who are the majority of the loacl SUP clubs supporting....becasue after all, isnt that where it starts. ie you go to club comps, the afflieated state titles then earn the right for the nationals???

what does SUPA have to gain by calling there events state titles? They could really prove a point, like the surfing pro tour, and get it so good/big that it wouldnt matter what they called it, the best would come and that would get them the attention and coverage.....

Flaker
NSW, 122 posts
9 Feb 2012 6:46PM
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I'm going to go and support the comp.
I'd race but am boardless.
I like the shorter distances.
I think it would appeal to the wider market as well.

SurfConnect
QLD, 1674 posts
9 Feb 2012 7:03PM
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Sorry should have made it clearer - event is actually run/sanctioned by SUPA (StandupPaddle Australia)/ASI (Australia Surfing Institute), the governing body of SUPping in Australia.

Here are fuller details for those who have not checked out our site or the SUPA site -

SUPA QLD Downwind & Flat Water Events $1000 cash prizes 11-12 Feb

11-12 February

Located on the foreshore, Sandgate Brisbane.



11 Feb. Downwind 10 Km

12 Feb. Flat Water events 6 k and 1500 metres.



Downwind. 1st prize. $1,000 cash. All mens/boys divisions. First across the line on 14ft and under board. Donated by ASI - the world leader in SUP education and accreditation.

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Register online at: http://www.sup-australia.com/events/qld-titles



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chrispychru said...

ok,i will ask. which one off the 200 state titles is this? umm like ar where doe this one rank on the scale from um ar 1 to ar um 200


laceys lane
QLD, 19804 posts
9 Feb 2012 7:09PM
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quick question any prizes for senior men 14' and over

will probably paddle anyway
cheers



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