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Bert Burgers brain

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Created by AA > 9 months ago, 20 May 2015
AA
NSW, 2167 posts
20 May 2015 10:48AM
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We recently had Bert Burger in-store and we fired him up with a beers.
So here it is - the first part of Bert talking about how it all started and an in-depth talk on board design

Bert Burger (the man behind the parabolic rail and Firewire), is larger than life with an amazing story of survival through the ups and downs of the surfboard industry since the 70's.

Grab a beer as we did, sit back and hear from the brilliant mind of an intelligent and creative man possessed with a life-long desire improve his boards and the experience for all those who use ride them.

Part one of the series covers his history and how outline, contour and rocker affect a boards performance.

I hope you enjoy it as much as we did!




Part 2 on its way!

DavidJohn
VIC, 17569 posts
20 May 2015 11:49AM
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Great vid.. Thanks Andrew.

supthecreek
2745 posts
20 May 2015 10:33AM
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Dang I like it when people talk to me!

I just learned more about board design than I have in 50 years of surfing every kind of board.

I knew when I liked a board, but never dissected it.... I let the shapers worry about that.

Bert is frickin' awesome. Still stoked and passionate and happy to pass on his knowledge so even I can understand it.

Thanks Bert and AA!

Reprobate
31 posts
20 May 2015 11:34AM
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Great, Great, GREAT! Bert is a genius! I'm sure he's forgotten more about boards and design than 9/10ths of most shapers will ever know. Thanks AA and Bert! That was fantastic!

cantSUPenough
VIC, 2131 posts
20 May 2015 2:25PM
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Wow - that was great. He actually makes it understandable. Thanks for sharing - can't wait for part 2.

NNSUP
NSW, 1263 posts
20 May 2015 3:53PM
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Grab a beer. I had about 4 on the night. He talked for so long.
Love that camera angle from the left.

AA
NSW, 2167 posts
20 May 2015 5:12PM
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Yep thats his best side for sure!

Here ya go - Part 2 with more to come!



The man makes perfect sense even after a few beers!

Chopsup
SA, 123 posts
20 May 2015 6:42PM
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These are great, some of the effects of shapes i already knew but he makes this very easy to understand! I'm keen to hear about tail design! keep them coming!

SUPbru
386 posts
21 May 2015 6:45AM
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Thanks Bert & AA - material like this is gold!

AA
NSW, 2167 posts
21 May 2015 10:00AM
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It is a pleasure to put this footage together. So much to learn!

Bert refers to some videos in his talks. Here is one of them on the XXX SPEEED - one of our favourites.
This video is still a 'work-in-progress' but when Bert talks about the design aspects of each individual board it really starts to bring it all togther.

cantSUPenough
VIC, 2131 posts
21 May 2015 10:59AM
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Great video. I have a question. About half way through Bert said that the Speeed has water over the edges of the board which makes it more stable - rather than being fat and bobbing around like a cork. But how sensitive is that to the weight of the rider? I assume that anyone suited to a board (e.g. 8'10" 130 l) would sink it enough to achieve this effect.

supthecreek
2745 posts
21 May 2015 10:06AM
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I am really glad to watch Bert dissect the SPEEED.... it is the Sunova that attracted my attention.

I have been following all the "Vanguard" style board evolving in Oz, because they looked like a way for me to go with less width, while maintaining stability.
The problem was, I am not a fan of wide-flat tails, they are just not my cup of tea.

The SPEEED looks to have all the design features that match my needs..... plus I LOVE the Sunova construction theory!

I am going to be SPEEEDY soon

Tino42
85 posts
22 May 2015 7:52AM
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Wow. It was an unbelievably great trip and i like to thank all our great dealers and shops here in Oz for their unreal support and trust in our brand. The way it looks like you will see a lot more of us next season. and some nice surprises. But especially more of what we like to stand for. PERFORMANCE, DURABILITY, light WEIGHT.

If you like to see more of Bert's outstanding and amazing knowledge check out also our YouTube channel. This was the first YourOwnShaper Event we did a year ago in Germany. Sometimes you just want more and more. I still cannot get enough after talking to Bert daily.

www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoP0wiAxIb3YVurbqgGTevresi5lLeLgB

More videos will follow as we gradually are working thru. Step by Step... ;-)

Thanks again to all you Aussies...

Tino

AA
NSW, 2167 posts
22 May 2015 11:34AM
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Yeah Tino, you guys didn't stop for 2 weeks straight- you deserve a holiday in Thailand!

Probably the most interesting session of them of all - Board Flex.



Thanks to Natural Necessities Surf shop for the awesome surfing footage of Jacey Shimahara on the Acid

For the uninitiated....




AA
NSW, 2167 posts
22 May 2015 1:42PM
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Here is the latest Sunova XXX SPEED video featuring both Johny Maya from Portugal and local team rider, Jacey Shimahara.

AkeG
133 posts
23 May 2015 10:45PM
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Wake me when you guys (Sunova) find a way to get these boards to the US.....

I know a guy who would make an excellent sales rep!

AA
NSW, 2167 posts
24 May 2015 9:02AM
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AkeG said..
Wake me when you guys (Sunova) find a way to get these boards to the US.....

I know a guy who would make an excellent sales rep!


Wakey wakey

Coastal Surf Supplies:

p: +1-888-569-7038
w: www.coastalsurfsupplies.com/ 12407
Old Bridge Rd. Ocean City MD 21842 USA

AkeG
133 posts
25 May 2015 10:36PM
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Thanks AA, Have followed up on Coastal Surf Supply. Apparently they have only a few of last season's Sunova sups....and are offering them on Ebay for full retail.

And from what I've heard (second hand) they have no immediate plans to bring any new stock in.




GeoInstance
16 posts
27 May 2015 5:45PM
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Interesting videos no doubt.

Pitty that he mixes some interesting knowledge as a great and experienced shaper with some waffling that i would expect more from a sales or a marketing guy.

ccarter
QLD, 76 posts
27 May 2015 8:24PM
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The Guy is a genius I love how he doesn't hide anything and just says it as it is not trying to hide the knowledge we are all better for that

AA
NSW, 2167 posts
5 Jun 2015 3:35PM
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Here it is guys the final instalment on Bert's in depth discussion on board design.

Here he breaks down a few myths and talks about fin design and how it affects the perfomance of your board.



Enjoy

baddog
256 posts
6 Jun 2015 8:54AM
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Say it ain't so. This one needs a whole lot more answers and I have a whole lot more questions.

Kami
1566 posts
6 Jun 2015 3:04PM
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baddog said..
Say it ain't so. This one needs a whole lot more answers and I have a whole lot more questions.

Just keep in mind what's Bert saying and practice, you will find more answers to your new questions.

SUPunit
QLD, 36 posts
9 Jun 2015 6:01AM
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Decent way to while away the night shift hours.

Seajuice
NSW, 919 posts
9 Jun 2015 10:22PM
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Made a lot of sense. Verified why a short steep rocker SUP board of mine needed some pumping for it to perform. My mate loved it & I thought it was sluggish & bogged down. That is because my mate performs on it & I am more of a cruiser than a bruiser. But this will help me to get motivated to practice the pumps etc.
Thanks Bert very interesting. You definitely know your stuff.

cantSUPenough
VIC, 2131 posts
10 Jun 2015 12:29AM
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AA said..
Here is the latest Sunova XXX SPEED video featuring both Johny Maya from Portugal and local team rider, Jacey Shimahara.


Anyone know where you can see the rest of the Jacey Shimahara vid on the Speeed?



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