Hi all
just after some feed back on the widepoint 8 10 Allwave 8 11 and naish 8 8 x32.
I'm fairly new to sup and am looking at down sizing as I currently Have a starboard wide point 10 5.
Would it be to to big a drop in length to come back to one of the above boards , I am looking for some thing that is still
fairly stable but more manuverable on the wave's.
Thanks
Everyone's gonna wanna know your height, weight and conditions normally surfed too. Maybe throw the JP wide body surf 8'8 in too, seems very popular in the size range you are after
Hay Supwebby I saw this post looking back and no one replied to you....
Ive got a starboard 8.10 wp and been demoing a jp 8.8 wb but looking at buying a Naish 8.3 x32...
My starby is good very stable easy to paddle but its very thick and slow to turn, I run it with shaper quad fins and that loosens it up a fair bit but I do find its still a "big" board to turn and work when the waves are steep. I did not like the grip so changed that over and like it more with the normal diamond style grip on it. Its a fun board when its small or when its a bit bumpy with the stabillity, but its hard to ride right back on the tail pad it starts to bounce around a bit.
The Jp 8.8 widebody. I have had 2 sessions on it and felt good straight away. Its a tad slower to paddle but very stable. it felt like more of a surf board with the more traditional shape. on the wave it was a pocket rocket real back foot surfing, it was really good waves 4 foot beachies light offshore so any thing would have been good. but I did notice that it was a lot easier to turn and i even got the tail to slide a bit. bottom turning it was a bit skatie but it had a cheap set of quad fins in it I think a good set would have made a big difference. I was real impressed I also liked the rocker. But I think I would have gone the 8,2 as I want a little less liters and shorter.
I was going to buy a 8,3 naish x32 last weekend second hand as there is a few on here for sale and I like the look of them and they get a good review but I cant get a demo local on one so ive been umming and arring about it. But on friday one of my buddies lent me his JP 9,2 pro 30 wide We surfed 4 foot point break on friday and I loved it the narrowness was different my legs were burning but it was pretty stable, my starby is 140 liters this is 136 so not much difference. but it felt great turning and off the lip too, it was a rocket down the line.. would prob get one if i could get one second hand cant afford new board prices. but I did not like that it cant be a thruster I think in bigger waves it would need a center fin.
So now im pretty confused I was looking at the wide body boards as Im 95 kg and only been supping for 7 months but I snowboarded for 10 years NZ and canada and body boarded at a high level as a grom till early 20s so know the water well. The guys at the local shop want me to demo the jp 8'5 fusion at 30 wide but has 136 liters but im still keen on the Naish 8,3 x32.
What did you end up getting or testing? I have not been on the allwave, so cant help there.
I,m 90kg as well and tried them all and they are fairly different. I ridea Airborne 8.8 and Starboard 8.5 Pro myself.I padle in probably the ****iest conditions you can imagine with lots of current, lots of windwaves, waveperiods you can better measure in meters between them then secconds and half the year we need a hooded uit, boots and gloves well....but 2/3times a year we take a holiday to the Atlantic Ocean and riding the better waves (France/ Cornwall-UK and Ireland) or when the Missus it fancy,s a winter trip to place like South Africa :)
But most of the times the stuff is paddled in conditions probably a lot worse as you will face.
Allwave: IMO the easiest of the pack. Its imo more a beginners board made short for whatever reason. Really really stable but more cruising on a wave as really riding it with lots of turns. it pushes the most water of all of themwhen entering a wave what anoys me in my conditions.
WP8.10: (AST) very easy to paddle, and not much different as your 10.5 in stability. Great glide for its length due the flattish rocker, the 2th easiest board but surfs a lot better.I prevered it asd a Quad making it a bit looser as with the tri-fin config. Surfwise I would say this is the easy minimal of the pack.
Naish 8.8x32: Feels a LOT smaller and less stable as the 2 above. Its a bit corky board with a high up going nose and a lot of rocker making it feeling less stable and adding some role but is nice to turn over his rocker on bigger waves while turning tight in of the backfoot. Probably the most exciting of the pack. Riding is a bit like a big shortboard, good on a wave, less due the lesser glide on the shoulder and white-water
JP 8.8WB. Now that is an intersting board. Its almost as stable as the WP8.10 but thinner making it sitting slightly deeper in the water, but stable!I only paddled the Pro version and that one catches waves really really easy, got a great glide due a pronounced rocker sitting probably around the level of the WP, but for sure way less as the X32. The JP turns with this rocker still fairly tight. and it got nice "thin" rails that hold pretty well. and altough it doesnt feel as spectacular as the Naish it rips pretty good but keeps more glide on the wave allowing a bit of longboard style paddling as well. (performance minimal??).I think that you wanna cover it all the JP-pro is your best shot. keep in mind that weight means a lot, so if you try a WP in carbon it will be faster, more turny and reactive as well.
Added my own board: the
AB8.8 (carbon).Its although 123l as stable as the WP8.10. Sounds weird, but tested it with a friend who paddled only last year a couple of weeks on a 10x36 and was for the 2th time playig on his WP. Once he could stand and catch a wave on the WP8.10 he could do the same on the AB.The main difference between the 2 of them is that the WP got a longer glide and the AB turns MUCH tighter. In faster headhigh waves its in radius imo comparable to the Naish X32 but if the wave is a bit slower you can go a lot tighter with the AB and it catches waves earlier as well due its flatter rocker as the JP. In bigger steeper headhigh waves the Naish felt more secure because that nose can,t simply stick where the AB is good enough but flatter. The AB isnt the best in bigger waves, but if hiphigh and /or slower waves your daily turf and you wanna surf them with lots of turns the AB is hard to beat.
Also to considder: if you like a bit of longboard style surfing you could also think about longer but less wide boards like the Starboard Element 9.8x30 or a similar Naish.The offer a better glide as your WP are really fun to ride and more nimble as well.Hope it helps.
Hey Slugga i read how you would like to demo an 8.3 naish x32. I got one for sale if you want to take a trip to the island you can demo it.Just call Richie if serious 0415106443 cheers.
Hay Richie I actually called you about a month ago about your board my name is sam... I was going to home over last weekend and have a look at it but got stuck with the kids.
I'm Still interested in it but have not had a chance to come look at it
I surfed today at big left on a Jp 9'2 x 30 pro 136 l again and it surfes unreal so good on a wave real snap in the turns but it's so unstable it was lumpy out there and was a prick waiting for sets I could not even paddle it in I had to lie down and also paddle on my knees feeling really kookish... That's why unthinking the 8'3 x32 for the short board feel with stability.. I'm inly interested in surfing head high waves with a bit of punch I have a small wave board