classified/for-sale section is the best review?

i scan thru the for-sale section and wonder if this is the best way to get an unbiased review of SUP boards. I mean, what says 'i don't like this board' better than putting it up for sale? sure, some say they're reducing their quiver and other reasons, but we all know you don't sell your favorite boards. Going thru the classifieds here, I'd say Fanatic Allwave's and Naish Hokua's are the biggest 'resellers'. I've never tried the Naish, but I've had 2 Allwaves and sold them both...just too corky and thick rails for my tastes. Seems others agree. Now it could be argued that the biggest sellers are also going to be the most likely to also get resold, just based on quantities out there. On the opposite side, I see few Minions or Hypernuts, meaning perhaps people are mostly truly happy with these boards (or, again, maybe the volume sold is just not there, so fewer to resell). But overall, I think it's a good method to get a most honest review.

Or it could be that people just want to sell their board because they can't afford to hang on to them all and buy (try) new boards.

I agree that the classified section is a tool.... but must be parsed thoughtfully.

After building skills on a "stability" board, like the Allwave, it's natural to downsize further, to less volume
A board like that is a "step" in a SUPsters progression.

In Allwaves, I went 9'10 -> 9'5 -> 8'10, then advanced to the Prowave.
Happy with all.... and they all held their resale value very well.

That's a pretty naive view op. The biggest sellers are going to be the more commonly resold.

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Antho said..
Mate
I buy and sell boards like some kind of demented auctioneer...it's not the BOARD'S problem....!

I'm with you, except I seem to fail to do the sell bit

all valid points, but i've got a few too many boards in my garage as well, and i've never considered selling my favorites. i find it hard to believe anyone would sell their favorite board just to try another one. like me, you'd probably sell your least favorites, and that just makes sense. are there exceptions out there...of course! but in general i think the classifieds are a good indicator of what NOT to buy. the biggest disclaimer there is in the newbie world, where those first few boards were great, but it's obviously time to move on and progress.

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micksmith said..

beached56 said..
all valid points, but i've got a few too many boards in my garage as well, and i've never considered selling my favorites. i find it hard to believe anyone would sell their favorite board just to try another one. like me, you'd probably sell your least favorites, and that just makes sense. are there exceptions out there...of course! but in general i think the classifieds are a good indicator of what NOT to buy. the biggest disclaimer there is in the newbie world, where those first few boards were great, but it's obviously time to move on and progress.

If your after the last word here beached56 you can have it but it looks like the majority don't agree. I don't see the point in having a board sitting in the shed just because you say it was your favourite, I mean how many favourites can a person have that they don't use.

Some people experience buyer's remorse. I get seller's remorse. I regret selling pretty much every board. Only one or two that I was happy to see the back of.

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beached56 said..

micksmith said..

beached56 said..
all valid points, but i've got a few too many boards in my garage as well, and i've never considered selling my favorites. i find it hard to believe anyone would sell their favorite board just to try another one. like me, you'd probably sell your least favorites, and that just makes sense. are there exceptions out there...of course! but in general i think the classifieds are a good indicator of what NOT to buy. the biggest disclaimer there is in the newbie world, where those first few boards were great, but it's obviously time to move on and progress.

If your after the last word here beached56 you can have it but it looks like the majority don't agree. I don't see the point in having a board sitting in the shed just because you say it was your favourite, I mean how many favourites can a person have that they don't use.

i don't care about getting the last word. but there is a big difference between 'was my favorite' and 'is my favorite'. anyway, it was just a thought i had while perusing the classifieds. that is my last word.

Just testing here to see if I can tempt you into another last word Beached. You've created an interesting discussion, so thank you, but I have to disagree with your conclusions. It's ok to "never consider selling your favourites" if you have enough money and somewhere to store them. For me unfortunately, and I think plenty of others, I don't have that luxury. I loved my Jimmy Lewis striker, classic longboard sup, but I wanted to try something shorter so it had to go. I loved my Deep Minion 7'8 hot little sports car but it was only good for me on the glassier days and I'm afraid it had to go. Loved my gulliver/australian waterman vanguard .... light, fast and carved off the tail, but still didn't work in really crappy conditions so it has to go. Love my current Blue Planet 8'6 Potato Chip, so fast and stable, fun in all conditions. Now I wish I'd bought the carbon one so thinking of selling it to finance the upgrade! I've also had a starboard pocket rocket and it was great too. Do these boards indicate what not to buy? In a perfect world they would all be sitting on a rack in my dream extra large garage next to the full size pool table. I would go out each morning and say to them "I love yous all"

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MickMc said..
Just testing here to see if I can tempt you into another last word Beached. You've created an interesting discussion, so thank you, but I have to disagree with your conclusions. It's ok to "never consider selling your favourites" if you have enough money and somewhere to store them. For me unfortunately, and I think plenty of others, I don't have that luxury. I loved my Jimmy Lewis striker, classic longboard sup, but I wanted to try something shorter so it had to go. I loved my Deep Minion 7'8 hot little sports car but it was only good for me on the glassier days and I'm afraid it had to go. Loved my gulliver/australian waterman vanguard .... light, fast and carved off the tail, but still didn't work in really crappy conditions so it has to go. Love my current Blue Planet 8'6 Potato Chip, so fast and stable, fun in all conditions. Now I wish I'd bought the carbon one so thinking of selling it to finance the upgrade! I've also had a starboard pocket rocket and it was great too. Do these boards indicate what not to buy? In a perfect world they would all be sitting on a rack in my dream extra large garage next to the full size pool table. I would go out each morning and say to them "I love yous all"

ok, Mick, bait taken. i agree with everything you say. but my original point was really towards the quantities of the same types of boards in the classifieds. i mentioned that there appears to be quite a few of the same brands/models for resale out there. so i thought to myself (and later started the discussion): why so many of the same boards up for resale? must be telling me something. and conversely, so few of the boards i'm interested in for resale must also be telling me something. i guess the beauty of the classifieds is finding that rare gem most don't part with.

I suggest to create here what we did on the Gong forum and works quite well:

- Separate classified sections for selling and searching. This way it encourages people to tell what they are looking for. We see each week people who were not thinking of selling a board being "pushed into action" by seeing someone wanting it. Currently you can post "looking for" in Seabreeze classified, but many people are not aware of it.

- A post I titled "J'ai peut être du matos à vendre, mais pas sûr encore..." ("I may have gear to sell, but not decided yet...." www.gong-galaxy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=2465 ). This proved very successful: Often you need to make some place in the quiver, but do not know what to sell. Just list what you may sell and let the market choose for you. A single post also make it quite active, stays to the top, and induce people to contribute (just like a beggar puts some coins in his bowl at the start of the day...)

This way you can entice people to sell what you are looking for, and cut to the chase.

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baddog said..

PTWoody said..
Reasons to sell an otherwise excellent board:

...my first race/session on this board went badly and now I fear the board is cursed.

Bad karma sporting goods are always sent packing!!!

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baddog said..

PTWoody said..
Reasons to sell an otherwise excellent board:

...my first race/session on this board went badly and now I fear the board is cursed.

Bad karma sporting goods are always sent packing!!!

Beached56, your statistical analysis of the classified data is simply amazing, along with your conclusion.

My guess is that your a politician or a union delegate, as no other occupation could "draw a bow" as long as you have from the information provided.