Hi, I was after some advice on my next board I currently have a 2014 8"11 fanatic allwave think it's 150l . Was looking to upgrade to something with a bit less volume, but want to maintain stability. I normally surf massive 1 to 2 ft but sometimes get to surf a bit bigger. After any thoughts on boards I could try and anyone's experience
get a SmiK Hipster Twin, they meet all your requirements. Shorter compact shape with loads of stability due to the fuller plan shape in the front end.
The NEW Super Frank board looks amazing & is designed to be a more stable style performance board with more of a loose approach whilst maintaining speed through & out of turns.The Super Frank is the ultimate SUP groveler. It's meant to be ridden quite a bit shorter than your normal board and still offer plenty of stability. Flat rocker with a very deep single to double concave for high speed and drive in flat and weak surf. The outline has the wide point a bit forward coming into a performance thumb tail to make the board very responsive and easy to whip around. The Super Frank comes in two widths for each length so you can choose the width and volume that best suits you.
5 Fin Box Set Up.
Comes with JL 5 fin set. (allows for thruster or quad fin set up)
Thruster set Size - 4.5"
Quad set size- Front 4.5" Back 4.0"Can be ridden much shorter due to its design, increasing maneuverability for average-expert riders. Stable, Light & Strong...
Six different sizes with three lean shapes named-
Super frank / lean
7'6 x 29.5"x 4"liters 100L
8'0 x 30"x 4.2" liters 115L
8'6 x 30.5"x 4.4" liters 130L
Super Frank/ heavy rider
7'6 x 31"x 4.4" liters 115L
8'0 x 31.5"x 4.5" liters 127L
8'6 x 32"x 4.5" liters 141L
5 futures fin box
Construction in I-Beam sandwich PVC
Amazing new graphics coming from the best factory of the world with two colour options...
Hi Paul - welcome to the forum.
What are you trying to get out of the surf? Do you go for turns? The board you have is not a long board/nose rider board, but if that was your preferences there are certainly boards around that are better suited than the Allwave.
It also helps to know your weight, but if you are surfing 150 L then you may not want to go below 135 L, and maybe 140 L would be a safer bet.
Normally when you go down in volume the board will be less stable, but from my understanding, the Allwave is a thicker board, which makes it "corky" - you are higher off the water so it tends to "rock" more. A board with similar width and length but thinner will have similar stability but you will have more fun on the wave.
For example, in my early days I had a 9'5" Starboard widepoint 150 L, then an 8'8" Naish X32 140 L (both quite thick), then tried a few boards and settled on a Sunova Acid. The Acid has thin rails and I think it is more fun on a wave. In part because of the lower center of gravity, and the fact that the water laps over the rails restricting the side-to-side rocking motion, it is reasonably stable.
I am not personally familiar with the other boards recommended, but to get a lower volume board, and the benefits of going smaller (otherwise, why bother), your best bet is to go after a thinner board.
The new Sunova Steeze looks a good option. A Starboard widepoint may also be a good option if you are ok with a 32 wide board.
If you want to stay with fanatic. Try the style master 9" 0. Its stable, catches waves easy and is fun to ride.
Otherwise, talk to a local shaper, like the crew at DEEP and get yourself a well priced custom..
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Hi, I was after some advice on my next board I currently have a 2014 8"11 fanatic allwave think it's 150l . Was looking to upgrade to something with a bit less volume, but want to maintain stability. I normally surf massive 1 to 2 ft but sometimes get to surf a bit bigger. After any thoughts on boards I could try and anyone's experience
IMHO don't focus on the volume. Volume alone means nothing. A fuller plan shape (outline e.g. wider tail and nose) will have way more stability than a narrower thicker (higher volume board).
I'd keep your current board for those days where is choppy and get a smaller volume/pulled in outline board for the days when its glassy and pumping. After a few surfs you will find you adjust to the "tippier" board and love how it surfs (on the wave so much better) that you wont bother with the bigger one. I may be biased but the Smik Hipster twins in the lager sizes say 8"2'x 30 would be the perfect step down. They surf unreal and are super stable. I have a 7"8'x28 and love it.
Earlier this year I was lucky to borrow a 8"2'x30 Hipster twin in a comp as the wind had come in and my 8"0"x27 (Custom not a hipster Twin) would have been a huge challenge. In the 15knt onshore the 8"2"x30 was so stable it was like standing on a coffee table. see the comps pic below. During the heats I could fully relax while stationary in the chop no worries
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Hi, I was after some advice on my next board I currently have a 2014 8"11 fanatic allwave think it's 150l . Was looking to upgrade to something with a bit less volume, but want to maintain stability. I normally surf massive 1 to 2 ft but sometimes get to surf a bit bigger. After any thoughts on boards I could try and anyone's experience
Hi Paul, welcome to the Breeze.
Before I advise anyone about SUP, I always ask them a lot of questions, so I have a frame of reference.
Age, weight, height, fitness, surf experience and not least... what style of surfing are you most interested in.
Followed by
conditions at the breaks you surf... wind, wetsuits etc.
What are your goals?
Lots of info I know.... but important if you want good feedback.
I was an Allwave guy for years, so I am very familiar with the stability and float characteristics of the 8'11.
Things have changed a lot in the past few years so comfort on that board could translate into a wide range of choices today.
