One day I would love to "style" 10% as good as this . This form
of SUP looks so spiritual .
More rocker on that board than I expected . Looks damn stable
man love a spoon full of his style.
great riding Marty.
I am loving my recent purchase for the wife of the Sunova Style.
Haven't ridden anything else since i got it.
effortless, catches anything, stable as a boat, starting to get to the front twinkling toes, get back and she pivots on a dime.
putting the fun back into supn.
Only thing i hate is it doesnt fit IN my cruiser, gotta tie it on the roof. cant complain too mych with the smiles it has given me.
Such a fun, stable, versatile and durable board. Big enough for first timers and flat water touring. Loose enough to get it in the pocket. Happy days.
Is that the x 29 or XL version....looks a big board when he is holding it...but not so big when riding it 
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29 version. Rider 75kg and about 174cm. Very comfortable.
Thanks....he looked like a big lad rather than 75 kegs
Any comments on fin setup Marty?
I noticed u have a different centre fin (of course, that stock fin looks weird) and right back in box.
Are they std XL sides that came with board or have you gone down in size?
I recently bought same boad for bit of LB fun in slop. FIrst up found the sides way too big and at 82kg coudlnt hardly get the thing to turn around to get onto a wave, so took them off.
tried with 3 same sized fins and felt ok, maybe more for bigger days and down the line riding. I see Jackson close and dogman riding this sort of style fin setup.
Have found a big centre without sides works for me in small beacheys or small reefs, bout halfway along box. makes easy to stomp tail and turn it to setup and starting to get up to nose. Never really done longboarding so all new to me. Havent had it out in any juice yet, not sure i will either as generally ill step onto my other short board SUP then.
Anyhow be good to get some comments on decent riders on fin setups for the longboard style. Im sure many could benefit from it.
As Scotty Mc says, give riders a long centre box and generally they will put it in the wrong spot. A few inches can make a world of different.
Caution, here is what I found out:
- A single fin is most efficient in "displacement" mode, i.e. before planing. And as the planing speed is higher as the water line is longer, this means that long boards will be often in displacement mode, and as small waves are often of a short period, they are also slower, so you go slower.
- At slow speeds, if you roll the board to the right, the water reaction on the hull will pull it to the right at its center, and then the fin(s) act as a weathervane tail, so its lift will be to the left. At fast speeds, it is the opposite, the rider use the rails to turn, and the fin(s) adds lift to the right to counter the centrifugal force, a quite different situation. Multi-fins are mostly designed to work at fast speeds (hence the flat inner side of fins, they are designed to provide lift into the turn) and feel awkward at slow speed, while symmetrical setups (single fins, twin setups like on Simmons) can work in both modes and do not feel weird in between them.
- Single fins lose grip and efficiency when the board rolls significantly, in carving turns. Side fins keep holding.
So I guess is what you found out is that a single fin is much more pleasant at slow speeds.
Note that you can compromise the setups to increase their range:
- 2+1 will add small twins to a single to help it handle more speed. But by keeping the side fins small and often symmetrically foiled, you avoid the "lock" you can feel with a thruster setup at slow speed. This is why it is such a popular all-around setup.
- Jackson close in his 10ft video has a thruster setup, but with the center fin moved all the way forward in the box: this way you reduce the "lock" a normal thruster setup has at low speed. I used this setup on a 9'11", the looseness was exhilarating, but you lacked drive if the wave power increased.
- Harley Ingleby rides bigger side fins and a smaller center, I guess for the same effect of reducing the "thruster lock" at slow speeds. I must say I like this combo best: you get the looseness of a small center, but when noseriding the side fin digs deep in the face and provide a nice hold if you do not go too slow. And in fast waves, the central fin is aft enough to provide decent stability. Its drawback is that it does not have the solid feel underfoot of a big single when the board is not on its rail. Drop knee turns are harder for instance.
- "Simmons" twins (big fins with symmetrical foils and a low toe-in angle, on the rear) may be also a very interesting noseriding design: you get the efficiency of 2 single fins at slow speed, that maintain their grip when on the rail, and no "thruster lock"
Hey Caution, good info from Colas and went through a lot of this topic with the 10' Laird I used before the Sunova Style and custom Slong.
For the bigger, wider mal style I prefer 1+2 set up. Usually a larger centre than many people use. If cruising a big single fun but loses it on edge a big with Such width and volume. I like the drive and hold of a fairly generous 9" centre and moderate sides. On the video I am using 9" Benda by Shapers and foiled plastic FCS 5's.
I place the centre fin about 10-15mm behind trailing edge of side fins. Best balance for me.
On the more refined Slong where I like to throw it around more I like really big sides and slightly smaller centre like Jackson Close set or the seven inch cut away and 83's on the side provided by Bert works super sweet.
Always fun experimenting.
Hey Caution yes those are great posts from COLAS AND FUNSURFN. I have the style and found the default fins hard for me I am 89kg's and just under 6'.0
best setup for me are Jackson Close thruster or a set of Simon Anderson SA2 (large)
hope that helps
