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SIC (K) dugout

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Created by SurfNiels > 9 months ago, 29 Aug 2016
SurfNiels
182 posts
29 Aug 2016 3:40PM
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Jus saw this picture online from the recent Hong Kong race
Probably a one-of kind custom but fun to see annyhow


Area10
1508 posts
29 Aug 2016 4:02PM
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How does it drain?

But what I take most from this is that SIC shows that dug-outs *can* look nice.

husq2100
QLD, 2031 posts
29 Aug 2016 7:33PM
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Area10 said..
How does it drain?

But what I take most from this is that SIC shows that dug-outs *can* look nice.


maybe the rear end is open.....

SupersizeP2L
44 posts
29 Aug 2016 5:59PM
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few more snaps

























SurfNiels
182 posts
29 Aug 2016 6:03PM
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Thanks SupersizeP2L

Area10
1508 posts
29 Aug 2016 8:46PM
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Great pics. Nice to see the FX being raced too.

I wonder why Caspar would use a Jav Maliko when the other Naish guys have chosen the Javelin.

baddog
256 posts
30 Aug 2016 12:11AM
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Compared to the skyscraper FX, I luv the looks and low volume. Wouldn't want fall on those rails though... ouch!

Slab
1122 posts
30 Aug 2016 3:34AM
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Hopefully everyone will want a dug out so there will be lots of cheap non dug out boards going

Hawaiiheke
319 posts
30 Aug 2016 4:09AM
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Ohhhh......I love the look of that board!

Area10
1508 posts
30 Aug 2016 5:46AM
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If that's a ding repair forward of the dugout, to the R side of the top deck, it's just about the worst fix I've ever seen...

charlieuk
355 posts
30 Aug 2016 5:58AM
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im pretty sure not long a ago i said it won't be long before the fx has a recess.

hanza1111
84 posts
30 Aug 2016 6:20AM
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Exciting to see SIC extending their range as they already have awesome DW and flatwater boards, and the FX for all-around.

I do agree those rails at the rear look thin (strong enough)?!
And I agree the SIC boards always seem to look slick and nicely finished, simple and clean.

I have read this is one of 3 prototypes so will be exciting to see how this board evolves into the production shape.... do you guys reckon the dugout would be better with a slight square tail, or keep it a pin tail?...

Well the shape seems to be working as Kenny just bet Kai, Casper, and Bernd, well done.

Grenfell
NSW, 291 posts
30 Aug 2016 8:20AM
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Mor



e SIC dugouts on the way? Looks like a flatwater proto

HumanCartoon
VIC, 2098 posts
30 Aug 2016 12:22PM
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Area10 said..
If that's a ding repair forward of the dugout, to the R side of the top deck, it's just about the worst fix I've ever seen...


It looks like a vent plug.

SurfNiels
182 posts
30 Aug 2016 2:10PM
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Grenfell said..
Mor



e SIC dugouts on the way? Looks like a flatwater proto


I think thats a prone board

Area10
1508 posts
30 Aug 2016 3:42PM
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HumanCartoon said...
Area10 said..
If that's a ding repair forward of the dugout, to the R side of the top deck, it's just about the worst fix I've ever seen...


It looks like a vent plug.

Are we looking at the same thing? I don't mean the place in the middle of the deck towards the front of the standing area - where SIC usually put their vent plugs. I mean way ahead of the standing area towards the nose but right out towards the rails. It looks like maybe there's been a ding and someone has stuffed some chewing gun in there.

It's strange though because I can only see it in one picture. The first pic in this thread doesn't show it. I think it's only visible in the sixth pic of the whole series that Supersize posted subsequently.

DavidJohn
VIC, 17568 posts
30 Aug 2016 6:20PM
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I'm thinking its damage or ding..

nosaj27
QLD, 271 posts
31 Aug 2016 9:21AM
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Area10 said..

HumanCartoon said...

Area10 said..
If that's a ding repair forward of the dugout, to the R side of the top deck, it's just about the worst fix I've ever seen...



It looks like a vent plug.


Are we looking at the same thing? I don't mean the place in the middle of the deck towards the front of the standing area - where SIC usually put their vent plugs. I mean way ahead of the standing area towards the nose but right out towards the rails. It looks like maybe there's been a ding and someone has stuffed some chewing gun in there.

It's strange though because I can only see it in one picture. The first pic in this thread doesn't show it. I think it's only visible in the sixth pic of the whole series that Supersize posted subsequently.


It looks like a chunk of sand to me, especially considering it isn't visible in any of the other photos.

crazybula
NSW, 99 posts
31 Aug 2016 11:55AM
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Who cares if it's a friggin ding or not. Really!!??

Lets get some more pics of the dugout prototype.

It looks SIC.

Hawaiiheke
319 posts
31 Aug 2016 1:39PM
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I'm guessing some local has simply cleared their nasal passages all over it.

Area10
1508 posts
31 Aug 2016 2:06PM
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I think it's the site of an alien landing.

Has anyone ever tried a dugout shape that isn't a dug-out (if you see what I mean). The Mistral Equinox for instance is an Ace-like shape (in the nose, anyway) and is a highly effective raceboard that seems fast in virtually all conditions. But when using it I wondered how much more I'd like it if it wasn't (such) a dug- out. If this SIC had it's standing area 2" taller, and it's sidewalls 1" less tall and a little more rounded, it wouldn't really be a dug-out. How much less effective do you think it would then be? The problem with dug-outs is not only the shin factor, it's also awkward transport, awkward carrying, extra fragility (you tend to acquire damage on those rails when eg. getting to your feet or back in the boat), and extra inconvenience (with dugouts you can't easily sit on the board dangling your feet over the side if you want to take a rest). And then there's the two killers if you are a racer: if the board flushes with water when eg. going out through surf, the board turns into a very heavy shallow paddling pool and you stop almost dead for some time, and if you are doing repeated beach starts dugouts are a nightmare of awkwardness and banged limbs.

So you pay a heavy price for the dugout. Yet very often you aren't standing *that* much closer to the water than you would be on eg. a Bark Dominator.

So, it seems to me that dugout designs so far have conflated the dugout nature of the board with the nose and tail designs, which are a positive. And I'm wondering what an almost-no-dugout Ace would be like. Would it really be so tippy as to be unusable? Do those sidewalls really need to be that thick? Would this SIC really be so much less effective if the standing area recess was more gently sloped and shallower? I have no idea, but I'm guessing that someone here has experimented.

In other words, are these dugout designs unnecessarily extreme?



SurfNiels
182 posts
31 Aug 2016 2:07PM
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crazybula said..
Who cares if it's a friggin ding or not. Really!!??

Lets get some more pics of the dugout prototype.

It looks SIC.


+1

Kieranr
NSW, 526 posts
31 Aug 2016 9:06PM
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Finally!!!!

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crazybula said...
Who cares if it's a friggin ding or not. Really!!??

Lets get some more pics of the dugout prototype.

It looks SIC.


SupersizeP2L
44 posts
1 Sep 2016 9:39PM
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prone ultd

ShireSUP
NSW, 982 posts
2 Sep 2016 4:41AM
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SurfNiels said..

Grenfell said..
Mor



e SIC dugouts on the way? Looks like a flatwater proto



I think thats a prone board


That is a prone board, just saw the almost finished product glassed

Abdillam
VIC, 226 posts
2 Sep 2016 8:48AM
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Always loved the ACE. Had a 2012 and 2014... If you're looking for a non dugout, similar outlined board, I highly recommend these... Since I've starting riding the DEEP Oceanboard I haven't looked back...quicker, very stable, effortless on bumps and much more user friendly...







Area10
1508 posts
2 Sep 2016 8:06AM
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Very interesting design. Thanks for posting.

Hoffinator
WA, 38 posts
2 Sep 2016 11:09AM
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I've just come across this...

No mention of the dugout as yet......

But I'm stoked the FX14 is now available in a slightly wider version - 27"

The 25" has been the fastest board I have paddled so far on the flats - for a 95kg bloke! (even faster than my current Custom DC Flatwater 14x26!!)
The high volume really suited my size. Except in the ocean where I struggled. Hopefully the 27" will make it as my all round board.....

hmmmm... Unless I go with the new 27" Allstar!! ????


SurfNiels
182 posts
2 Sep 2016 2:39PM
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KetoFireFighter said..
I've just come across this...

No mention of the dugout as yet......

But I'm stoked the FX14 is now available in a slightly wider version - 27"

The 25" has been the fastest board I have paddled so far on the flats - for a 95kg bloke! (even faster than my current Custom DC Flatwater 14x26!!)
The high volume really suited my size. Except in the ocean where I struggled. Hopefully the 27" will make it as my all round board.....

hmmmm... Unless I go with the new 27" Allstar!! ????



Interesting to see if the new team rider Caio Vaz has had an influence on the new Triton wave boards ?

nullawally
7 posts
18 Sep 2016 2:17PM
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Why do the new FX Tour boards have the FAST steering system? I understand its purpose for downwinding, but touring??

Mikedubs
289 posts
18 Sep 2016 6:04PM
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Crosswinds



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