I'm after some advice on paddles for flat water racing I currently have a 8.3 zre power surge and a 8.5 c4 waterman xpr do I go up to a 9" blade or go down smaller than my zre.I have several years racing experience but haven't raced for a couple of years due to injury
The answer will lie in what you don't like about your current paddles. Do they feel too big or too small for you? 9" wide is pretty big by current standards. But paddle choice is a highly personal thing, and evolves over time. I used to use a 110 sq inch paddle, was happy with it and smaller blades felt wrong. Now I use a 92 and I'm happy with it, and bigger blades feel wrong.
But I suspect that most people would advise you to err on the side of a smaller blade than you think you might need, rather than getting a bigger one.
Paddles ain't paddles, numbers ain't numbers. What feels big (or small) in one brand/shape/construction might not feel that way in another. And vice versa. And some makers seem to measure their paddle areas in mysterious ways.
Try as many as you can.
Hell...get a bigger one AND a smaller one. Mix it up a bit (seriously)
Go small. If you set your blade correctly, then there is no difference in "power" between an 84" and a 110". If set correctly neither move from their respective position in the water so size doesn't matter. I would play with shaft flex more then anything
The paddles I have been looking at are quickblade vee drive,trifecta,starboard bolt,and a kenalu where I live options to demo are very rare and models I want to try not available on demo.
I am 91kgs and 6'2. I have found that smaller blades don't seem to work quite as well for me At race pace. I have just bought a Starboard Bolt large on a stiff shaft and I am very impressed by it.
Hi Toby I tried a small blade red paddle company paddle a few years ago but I seemed to be paddling fast but getting nowhere.I looked at the bolt but the large paddle only had a 7.4 blade.as I was thinking of going for a trifecta a few months back but was talked out of it as it seems not very good for paddlers at my weight.
Don't worry about the width so much, as others have said different companies size differently. For example the Bolt blade is physically the same size as another company's 100sqin, but is officially 92sqin. I currently have a number of different carbon paddles and sizes. It also depends on the style of paddling power and cadence. I tend to work better at a higher power and lower cadence.
It is down to personal taste, a friend of mine at 100kgs loves a smaller 90sqin , 7.25 width paddle. I have the same paddle and enjoy using it, but find I am slower about 45secs over 5km.
Trial is the best approach if you can.
I find after about 2.5 hours of flat water paddling with my 9" Kaholo my arm and shoulder muscles start to wear out. Using a 7.25" Trident Ultra over the same course (14km shallow tidal river) takes a little longer but I don't get worn out. That is why I went to a larger blade, I tried increasing my cadence with the small blade but I can only maintain it for short bursts, which suits surfing.
"Paddle width for 95 to 100 kg racer"
I'm that weight and I recommend a paddle around the 7.5" to 8" width.
Thanks for the help so far guys has anyone my weight got any experience with the vee drive or trifecta ?
Well I'm a bit lighter than you but I have both the v-drive and trifecta paddles (also a couple of Ke Nalus).
I like the small blade size Trifecta for upwind/DW stuff or for long endurance paddles. It is very smooth and easy on the joints and back. But it feels a bit small for me for flat water or downwind, and I'd use the 96 a Trifecta for that if I had one. The catch is very low shock and the main pull comes mid-stroke so it's great for people with shoulder or back issues.
The V-Drive is completely different. This is a paddle for people who like a firm catch, and derive a lot of their momentum from it. The 92 V-Drive is my favourite paddle of all for just about anything. I also have a 100 V-Drive but I am a bit slower using it, and it is harder work going upwind. I seem to have more difficulty in flat water getting good technique with it, for reasons I don't really understand. In good DW conditions it is great though. There are a complex set of interactions between paddler and blade that go on when someone strokes, which is why everyone has slightly different preferences.
Many paddlers who are far more powerful in their stroke than I will ever be, use blades around the 90 sq inch mark. I think that eg. at the PPG, the 92 V-Drive was probably the paddle I saw most often. So if you can't demo, I think safest choice would be between the 92 V-Drive and the 96 Trifecta. IMO if you do long and/or difficult paddles, or have joint/shoulder/back choose the Trifecta (Travis Grant won the M2O using the 86 Trifecta). But if you like a firm catch as is needed for sprints, catching waves, catching bumps, and shorter flatwater races then choose the V-Drive. If you are a high-power/low cadence style paddler then go for the medium or large sizes (like Danny Ching does) depending on how powerful you are, and if you are a high cadence paddler then go for the medium or small sizes, depending on how fast you paddle.
If you don't know which kind of paddler you are, then try paddling alongside other people to see how fast a cadence you use, or look at some videos of people racing and then try to match the number of strokes they have taken in say a 3 minute period in perfectly flat water.
Generally it is safest to err on the side of a smaller blade. They will also be easier to sell on if you find you do want a bigger one.
Hi area 10 I'm definitely a low cadence paddler the races I do are usually between 5 and 12 miles long.I was thinking of going for a trifecta but someone on here advised against it as the blade width was to small for someone of my weight.I've tried to find blade area size for the two race paddles I have but can't seem to find this information out.
Cheers Dean
Hi Dean, as noted above, paddle width doesn't count for that much really, so I'd continue to try to find the blade area of the paddles you've already used if you can, or borrow some other paddles where you do know the area to get an idea of what you like. The trifecta hasn't got the usual triangle shape of a paddle. The tip almost seems narrower than the mid part of the blade. This is what makes the catch so forgiving and the mid-stroke pull so strong. It's a wonderfully buttery paddle to use. If you are a low cadence paddler and don't do crazy long races then personally I'd be getting the 96 and not the small one. Get the tapered oval shaft too - it is worth the extra money.
Area 10 my zre has a blade area of 107 square inches I'm guessing the xpr will be even larger as it's wider and longer had a look on the quick blade Web site and they do recommend the larger trifecta for my race weight