Does anyone out there have a review/comparison of these two boards?
I like the look of them both...read about them both but hoping someone may have ridden both to
give an opinion on how they compare.
Cheers
Select to expand quoteBnaccas said..
Does anyone out there have a review/comparison of these two boards? I like the look of them both...read about them both but hoping someone may have ridden both to give an opinion on how they compare. Cheers
I will be able to get you feedback in about a week. A good friend of mine is testing them out in the Mauritius right as we speak. He rides the 8'0 in the JP and was formerly a starby rider and has ridden the 7'10 and according to him they are both very different boards. The 8'2 is just supposed to be a souped up version of the 8'0.
In saying that mate if you are looking at boards this small like I am then I would probably wait around for the new 8'3 Naish Hokua LE which they say is a real challenger to the JP this year in the shorter stuff.
Cheers Ozzie
Select to expand quotefm1 said..
Be great to hear what feedback your friend has on the 7'10 x 30 :)
Hi mate,
Will do buddy. From what I am hearing the starby and JP are vastly different boards so it may not be a fair comparison to be making.
Cheers ozzie
Select to expand quoteghost4man said..
From what I am hearing the starby and JP are vastly different boards so it may not be a fair comparison to be making.
Thanks. Any feedback would be great!
It's a fair comparison as if you asked each boards shaper/designer I'm assuming they would say they are for the
same/similar conditions. So I guess I'm trying to find out how they differ in similar conditions.
Looking forward to hearing how ya mate compares them.
Cheers
Bren
Very different Brendan. The specs for the JP should read more like 8'2" x just under 28" as that's the real width. In JP 's marketing it will soon read 8'2" x 28" and it surfs very well on any size face. The Starby on the other has a thing for the smaller stuff and in thruster mode is a stable zippy bit of fun.
The JP makes a good one off board and the Starby a good part of a quiver.
Select to expand quoteWINDSURFnSNOW said..
Very different Brendan. The specs for the JP should read more like 8'2" x just under 28" as that's the real width. In JP 's marketing it will soon read 8'2" x 28" and it surfs very well on any size face. The Starby on the other has a thing for the smaller stuff and in thruster mode is a stable zippy bit of fun.
The JP makes a good one off board and the Starby a good part of a quiver.
Hi,
I would agree with the above comment. I think a much fairer comparison would be with the new Naish Hokua 8'3 and the JP 8'2. Am looking to give both boards a real good demo before I decide. My only question mark at this stage with the Naish LE is its durability as I am hearing different things, some good, some not so good.
Cheers
Thanks for the feedback.
Sam...I've maybe put on a few kgs...now 80kg to 82kg roughly. Fatherhood tends to do that to ya...well thats my excuse.
I guess from the feedback so far I'd be keen to know...
1) How would the JP's stability compare to the Coreban Nitro 8'5"? (my current yet old board)
2) what size surf do people anticipate the JP maxing out?
I have ridden both:-
Out of the two the Starby will float more Kegs as it is 120 litres compared to the Jp at only 101 litres , plus the SB has a much fuller nose , tail and rails. A better comparaison between the would be the SB 8-0 x 28 Pro only 5 litres difference between that and the JP 8-2.
But to answer you question the SB 7-10 is very light and really fun in beach break style breaks , will float guys well into late 90kegs , hard to compare to the JP 8-2 as it's all performance based design with very pulled in nose and tail with tucked rails , as I said before compares closer to the SB 8-0 , so it depends on what you are after.
Re the Nitro:- If you can stand on that you will be fine on the JP or SB
Wave size:-
The SB was tons of fun but as soon as you got a little chop it felt very sketchy , great fun board for clean 3 to 4 foot days
The JP very fast & super responsive , takes late drops and sucky faces. I'll be surfing Frigattes on this in Sept hopefully 6-8ft
Select to expand quotePiros said..
I have ridden both:- Out of the two the Starby will float more Kegs as it is 120 litres compared to the Jp at only 101 litres , plus the SB has a much fuller nose , tail and rails. A better comparaison between the would be the SB 8-0 x 28 Pro only 5 litres difference between that and the JP 8-2. But to answer you question the SB 7-10 is very light and really fun in beach break style breaks , will float guys well into late 90kegs , hard to compare to the JP 8-2 as it's all performance based design with very pulled in nose and tail with tucked rails , as I said before compares closer to the SB 8-0 , so it depends on what you are after. Re the Nitro:- If you can stand on that you will be fine on the JP or SB Wave size:- The SB was tons of fun but as soon as you got a little chop it felt very sketchy , great fun board for clean 3 to 4 foot days The JP very fast & super responsive , takes late drops and sucky faces. I'll be surfing Frigattes on this in Sept hopefully 6-8ft
Piros,
Mate have you ridden the Naish 8'3 Hokua LE? That seems like a fairer comparison to be making. The Naish is 100L and all the talk is that the JP and Naish will compete at the shorter end as both are touted as performance boards. Cheers for any feedback.
Select to expand quotePiros said..
I have ridden both:-
Out of the two the Starby will float more Kegs as it is 120 litres compared to the Jp at only 101 litres , plus the SB has a much fuller nose , tail and rails. A better comparaison between the would be the SB 8-0 x 28 Pro only 5 litres difference between that and the JP 8-2.
Piros, were you riding the 2013 Starby 7'11 x 30" SevenEleven? Or the new 2014 Starboard 7'10" x 30" Airborn, which is only 97L and has a much more pulled in nose?
Either way, I haven't seen or ridden the JP, so can't compare the boards performance, but agree that the SB 8 x 28" Pro (96L) or (possibly even the 8'5" x 29" Pro at 106L) would probably be a fairer comparison to JP8'2 in terms of design purpose (I'm guessing the JP probably sits between the two when it comes to float/rider weight).
The Starboard 7'10" x 30" Airborn has been designed for pretty specific conditions, and complements, rather than replacing the Starboard Pro range.
It excels in the conditions its designed for, but also has its limitations. I'm finding it's my go to board at the moment, because beach breaks up to 3-4ft, is what I surf in most. But I will still go back to my 8'5 Pro in some conditions.
Have been riding the 2013 8'5" pro starboard since last November and have found it to be the best all round board I have ridden .(this is the 8 board I've had)
But when I've ridden solid beach breaks I've found it sketchy trying to drive off the bottom .
Have tried the JP 8'2" and was quite surprised the diffenced between the two as the starboard is 106 lit and
the J P about 100 lit.
At 90kg plus I would love to ride the JP but not sure how it will go in lumpy or rippy beach breaks.
The couple of waves I did catch on the JP the board felt insane on the wave but I think it might destroy my
Legs padding around.
Could anyone give me some feedback on this
Piros, were you riding the 2013 Starby 7'11 x 30" SevenEleven? Or the new 2014 Starboard 7'10" x 30" Airborn, which is only 97L and has a much more pulled in nose?
Ali I was on the 2014 Starboard 7'10" x 30" Airborn 97 litre , so I stand corrected on that , which is even more amazing it floated all us big blokes so well.
At 90kg plus I would love to ride the JP but not sure how it will go in lumpy or rippy beach breaks. The couple of waves I did catch on the JP the board felt insane on the wave but I think it might destroy my Legs padding around. Could anyone give me some feedback on this
Oneteam , I have surfed 8-2 in all conditions and I am a bit heavier than you , yes it is a leg fryer at our weight but it does get easier. Break at the knees more than bend you back to recover when you sink it. Stops you doing the poo-man stance and you drop your centre of gravity and re balance very quickly. Just keep at it you will improve.
Select to expand quotePiros said..
[/b][/i]Oneteam , I have surfed 8-2 in all conditions and I am a bit heavier than you , yes it is a leg fryer at our weight but it does get easier. Break at the knees more than bend you back to recover when you sink it.
Also, get a paddle no longer than your height. I will make wonders for any low volume board for your weight.
Select to expand quotecolas said..Piros said.. [/b][/i]Oneteam , I have surfed 8-2 in all conditions and I am a bit heavier than you , yes it is a leg fryer at our weight but it does get easier. Break at the knees more than bend you back to recover when you sink it.Also, get a paddle no longer than your height. I will make wonders for any low volume board for your weight.
Colas,
Could you expand more mate on your comment in relation to paddle length and low volume boards please. Whats the actual rationale behind this. Apologies for the seemingy noob question. I have been supping now for the last 5 years and whilst that isnt all that much I confess I have not heard this.
Cheers Ozzie
I think I can help on this.
I surf with short paddles. My longest one is 2cm overhead, the middle one is at eye level and the shortest about mouth level.
When you're surfing on low volume boards, you will float less, therefore you won't need such a long paddle. Another thing is that less volume=less flotation=less stability for the same weight and you naturally end up paddling in a bit lower stance.
This will make you need an even less longer paddle.
A few weeks ago a tried a board which was about 8 liters less than my weight in Kilograms (just for a challenge) and I was sinking almost to my calf. With a longer paddle it would have been impossible to paddle.
I couldn't catch a wave but I could paddle the thing, though paddling in a weird technique to try to get the board closer to the surface.
Besides this, a longer paddle will make you paddle with your upper arm pretty high in the air which in the long term will probably cause some rotator cuff's issues.
Select to expand quoteJohnnyMaya said..
I think I can help on this.
I surf with short paddles. My longest one is 2cm overhead, the middle one is at eye level and the shortest about mouth level.
When you're surfing on low volume boards, you will float less, therefore you won't need such a long paddle. Another thing is that less volume=less flotation=less stability for the same weight and you naturally end up paddling in a bit lower stance.
This will make you need an even less longer paddle.
A few weeks ago a tried a board which was about 8 liters less than my weight in Kilograms (just for a challenge) and I was sinking almost to my calf. With a longer paddle it would have been impossible to paddle.
I couldn't catch a wave but I could paddle the thing, though paddling in a weird technique to try to get the board closer to the surface.
Besides this, a longer paddle will make you paddle with your upper arm pretty high in the air which in the long term will probably cause some rotator cuff's issues.
Hi mate,
Beautiful, simple explanation. I started to kick myself for not picking this up earlier as what you say is intuitively and bio mechanically spot on. As you say with less flotation the board sinks more resulting in your entire body adjusting to this and thus the need for a longer paddle is negated. I imagine this would take some trial and error to get right but now I understand. Thanks.
Cheers Ozzie
How does the Starboard 7'10 go in fuller beach break conditions or fatter high tide situations. Is it an allround fish style shortboard or does it need more powerful beach break conditions like the Naish 7'6/7'8 Hokuas. I loved my 7'8 Naish but sold it because it was too narrowly focussed.
Hey Piros,
You said you had surfed the old Naish 8'5"...how does the JP 8'2" compare to it?
Stability? looseness? ripability?
I pick up my new JP 8'2" tomorrow but still curious as I've ridden the Naish as well.
I'm starting to think I should have gone the 8'0".
Select to expand quoteoneteam said..
Have been riding the 2013 8'5" pro starboard since last November and have found it to be the best all round board I have ridden .(this is the 8 board I've had)
But when I've ridden solid beach breaks I've found it sketchy trying to drive off the bottom
ooops dunno if I got the quote button right here......I'm trying to get a paddle on the 2013/14 8'5" pro before I part with the coin, but I ride the 2012 model which was also a bit skittish off the bottom in anything over 4ft. The short answer is c-drive fins. I've had them now for 2 months and they have simply transformed the board. I can't wait to chuck em in the new 8'5". You just can't spin out with them.
Cheers
Select to expand quoteTang said..oneteam said..
Have been riding the 2013 8'5" pro starboard since last November and have found it to be the best all round board I have ridden .(this is the 8 board I've had)
But when I've ridden solid beach breaks I've found it sketchy trying to drive off the bottom
ooops dunno if I got the quote button right here......I'm trying to get a paddle on the 2013/14 8'5" pro before I part with the coin, but I ride the 2012 model which was also a bit skittish off the bottom in anything over 4ft. The short answer is c-drive fins. I've had them now for 2 months and they have simply transformed the board. I can't wait to chuck em in the new 8'5". You just can't spin out with them.
Cheers
The 2013 board is much better bottom turn than 2012 - way soild - try the 2013 as a quad rather than a thruster (4.5'' front and back is a good allround for 80/ 85 kgs) if you are having issues on the bottom turn in solid beach break - i still prefer the thruster if its heavy onshore or big with a bit of bump
Select to expand quoteghost4man said..
Could you expand more mate on your comment in relation to paddle length and low volume boards please.
Like JohnnyMaya said, plus your legs are flexed a lot on these boards to keep balance, hence lowering a lot your hands relative to the water.
