Wing = bye bye kite foiling?

I'm curious to see how many people have converted to the wing and are suddenly not interested in kite surf/foil anymore

The amount of control on the wing makes it so much more enjoyable, especially in gusty/shifty winter winds. I can now wing in conditions I would never kite.

I have not started yet but I am already selling my 12m Eleveight RS V2 to fund the acquisition of my first wing (most likely Duotone Unit 5m). I will probably keep kite foiling when waves are small, but will definitely replace prone foiling on windy days with Winging. Can't wait to go explore these finicky wave spots that are too difficult to kite with no launching spot or irregular winds. Downwinders look also awesome with wings.

Funny how winging draws folks from all over the "surfing spectrum", from SUPers to kiters, windsurfers and foil surfers...Can't think of any water activity that became so popular is such short period of time..and got many people (including me) change their views about it!

I got into winging with light wind hopes but found it's not that fun when light (say 10-12kt). Doable but limited capabilities. I am still kite foiling in light wind, find it has more speed and power.

But the nice suprise is that wing is really fun at 20 to 30kt. Lately in anything other than surf, I'll be winging in higher wind.

Still a beginner wingdinger, but experienced kitefoiler.

If the wind is above 20 knots then I can wing up on the foil. I've made a few surface gybes, and some pretty decent attempts at foiling gybes. It's easy with enough wind.

The problem I, and many people, have is that if there's not enough wind then winging doesn't work at all. Even the best of our local crew need close to 20 knots to do anything useful. I read about 10-15 knot winging, but I have never seen it in the flesh. I've watched a few videos and I am keen to work on light wind slogging and pumping. There is always this appeal of "I wanna get out and try this ....".

I suspect there is a technique issue there in terms of properly pumping the foil, not so much the wing or wing power. I've explored that in my foiling wing sessions but it's hard to get a long enough session in to really nail stuff. The wind drops out or the energy levels run out. I would have thought our better wingers would have that sorted but that doesn't seem to be the case.

I've heard people raving about carving the wind swells. I've seen them and chased them on my kite foil. I've had to slow down to almost stationary to stay with them. The wiggling I saw wasn't close to carving wind swells. There are a couple of locations where we do get excellent wind swells but you need at least 30 knots to get any decent size and shape. I have a cunning plan on how to get off the beach and wing into those swells.

So far, if the wind is even slightly unsuitable for winging then I've gone for kitefoiling every time. I have access to good beaches and all the right gear. Kite foiling in 10-40 knots is easy and fun.

I live in walking distance of a beach that could be ok for winging, but is too small for kiting. I have a shorter, lighter board on order and I am exploring the possibilities of walking down for a wing. That could be good.

This is an interesting read and something I had been thinking about a bit lately, where will winging fit in for me?

I have been kitefoiling a few years and I like to ride strapless and surf the little wind swell bumps and occasional waves. I really love to try to depower the kite and surf along but i have found riding waves with a kite and foil is just not the perfect tool for the job. This is where I think wing foiling will excel for me. I am still only a handful of sessions in but I am really excited about the potential of foiling waves and bumps fully de-powered and all the new possibilities wing foiling brings. I can see wing foiling replacing the vast majority of kite foiling I do which during the summer here in perth is my go to local activity.

Where I can see kite foiling staying active for me is when the wind is light as there is often also no waves and kite foiling in lighter winds and smooth waters lets you blast along with awesome speed and power which i don;t think wing foiling will be able to match.

I definitely wont be selling my kites anytime soon as riding with a kite and a surfboard is still one of my favourite ways to attack waves. A kite can get you through, over, around and into solid surf in a way no other wind craft can. Plus winter here in perth means a lot of straight onshore days with closeout surf and way too much seaweed to foil. Sure you can wing ding on the river but there's no waves and the frontal wind on the river is dodgy as.

I also am not particularly excited about the prospect of getting mowed down by solid waves on a wing ding
Compared to a kite your much more of a sitting duck, I have been wondering lately just how effective the chicken jybe/ turn and run method is on a wing ding? On a kite this is a very effective and important move (some might say its my only move ) but on a wing it seems like it would be difficult to get the same sort of high speed straight out of a jybe? (this probably deserves its own thread)

been kiting for close 20 years and kite foiling since the get go approx 5 yrs and have to admit have not pumped my kites since May almost 3 months due to my winging obsession/addiction I'm not selling my kites yet no way especially being 225lbs as my low wind threshold still holds advantage to kite foiling however my winging low end is fairly close these days,time and a place for both but for now my kites and kite foils are gaining dust sitting,I'm one of those people that put my head down and won't stop until I have it completely wired so guess I'm in for long haul winging all good!

I windsurfed for 20 yrs, lost my mojo with it as was only going out in 4.7m or less with waves and still not frothing, And saw kitesurfing in '99, sold all my gear and leapt into kitesurfing.
Kited for 20 yrs wakeboard/boots, twin tip and strapless surfboard last 10 yrs, in the end only had 8 and 6m and waited for big wind and waves or I wouldn't bother.
Saw Wingfoiling, dithered for a few months, sold all my kite gear and fully committed to The Wing and am loving it, got the buzz and mojo back and excited every time I drive to the sea again. So much to learn and a great feeling on the foul. If it keeps me going for another 20yrs I will be delighted. Mike

90% wing foil (>12kts), 10% kite foil (7-14 kts). All flat water for me so far, and all strapless (bad knees). Advantage of wing foil for me; way easier to learn new moves, even if they are pretty wimpy looking compared kitefoil moves, or riding anything in sizable surf.
Tack both sides, 360's and some behind the back tacks so far. It might look boring on flat water but when you link em all together in quick succession it's pretty fun (....for this ole guy). Riding more than 40 meters in one direction on anything bores the crap out of me

I find the flat water boring too, but I consider it training. When the waves come back, I want this dialed in. 20kt plus there is usually some wind swells to give a playing surface, so my workout regime...power into swell heelside (left), as I drop in move hand to top of wing and bottom turn right, frontside, ride and pump down the line until power runs out, grab handles again, re engage kite toeside, down the line again frontside, then turn left and down the line left backside....doing loops over and over in the swell train, sometimes 10 or more transitions without falling....then back upwind to do it again. And the few small surf days so far....the muscle memory transfers! Man o man...stoked.