Aloha, Curious if anybody has tried the W1110 for SUP Downwind
I've tried it on the W1000 and didn't love it compared to my Lift 120 setup. The W1000 is paired with the kite fuse so the front wing is basically right up against the leading edge of the mast. It was hard to paddle up because I had to move my back foot very far back while paddling up in order to engage the foil and get the board in the air.
I would like a bigger wing for SUP downwind though, and curious if the extra lift generated by the W1110 would make it more useable than the W1000 paddling up. Once up and flying the W1000 felt pretty good, but the pump didn't feel as good to me compared to Lift. Any input here is much appreciated, mahalo!
Select to expand quotenatlegacy said..
Aloha, Curious if anybody has tried the W1110 for SUP Downwind
I've tried it on the W1000 and didn't love it compared to my Lift 120 setup. The W1000 is paired with the kite fuse so the front wing is basically right up against the leading edge of the mast. It was hard to paddle up because I had to move my back foot very far back while paddling up in order to engage the foil and get the board in the air.
I would like a bigger wing for SUP downwind though, and curious if the extra lift generated by the W1110 would make it more useable than the W1000 paddling up. Once up and flying the W1000 felt pretty good, but the pump didn't feel as good to me compared to Lift. Any input here is much appreciated, mahalo!
Do you think the w1000 is harder than lift 120 to paddle up? How do you keep mast on the tracks with the lift 120 compared to sab w1000?
Select to expand quotecefirmeza said..natlegacy said..
Aloha, Curious if anybody has tried the W1110 for SUP Downwind
I've tried it on the W1000 and didn't love it compared to my Lift 120 setup. The W1000 is paired with the kite fuse so the front wing is basically right up against the leading edge of the mast. It was hard to paddle up because I had to move my back foot very far back while paddling up in order to engage the foil and get the board in the air.
I would like a bigger wing for SUP downwind though, and curious if the extra lift generated by the W1110 would make it more useable than the W1000 paddling up. Once up and flying the W1000 felt pretty good, but the pump didn't feel as good to me compared to Lift. Any input here is much appreciated, mahalo!
Do you think the w1000 is harder than lift 120 to paddle up? How do you keep mast on the tracks with the lift 120 compared to sab w1000?
For me it was harder, but I also think because the front wing was further back then the 120 due to its positioning on the fuse (closer to the mast). If the wing/mast were further forward (on moses), my guess is it would be similar. 120 is smaller but its got good low end, I also use it with the 33 carve which makes popping up easier. I put both masts in the same position.
Select to expand quotenatlegacy said..cefirmeza said..natlegacy said..
Aloha, Curious if anybody has tried the W1110 for SUP Downwind
I've tried it on the W1000 and didn't love it compared to my Lift 120 setup. The W1000 is paired with the kite fuse so the front wing is basically right up against the leading edge of the mast. It was hard to paddle up because I had to move my back foot very far back while paddling up in order to engage the foil and get the board in the air.
I would like a bigger wing for SUP downwind though, and curious if the extra lift generated by the W1110 would make it more useable than the W1000 paddling up. Once up and flying the W1000 felt pretty good, but the pump didn't feel as good to me compared to Lift. Any input here is much appreciated, mahalo!
Do you think the w1000 is harder than lift 120 to paddle up? How do you keep mast on the tracks with the lift 120 compared to sab w1000?
For me it was harder, but I also think because the front wing was further back then the 120 due to its positioning on the fuse (closer to the mast). If the wing/mast were further forward (on moses), my guess is it would be similar. 120 is smaller but its got good low end, I also use it with the 33 carve which makes popping up easier. I put both masts in the same position.
You could use the second row of screw holes on sabfoil mast. It allows you to set the mast a few millimeters forward. In fact I am thinking about making new holes on lift mast so I can move forward the same way.
Select to expand quotecefirmeza said..natlegacy said..cefirmeza said..natlegacy said..
Aloha, Curious if anybody has tried the W1110 for SUP Downwind
I've tried it on the W1000 and didn't love it compared to my Lift 120 setup. The W1000 is paired with the kite fuse so the front wing is basically right up against the leading edge of the mast. It was hard to paddle up because I had to move my back foot very far back while paddling up in order to engage the foil and get the board in the air.
I would like a bigger wing for SUP downwind though, and curious if the extra lift generated by the W1110 would make it more useable than the W1000 paddling up. Once up and flying the W1000 felt pretty good, but the pump didn't feel as good to me compared to Lift. Any input here is much appreciated, mahalo!
Do you think the w1000 is harder than lift 120 to paddle up? How do you keep mast on the tracks with the lift 120 compared to sab w1000?
For me it was harder, but I also think because the front wing was further back then the 120 due to its positioning on the fuse (closer to the mast). If the wing/mast were further forward (on moses), my guess is it would be similar. 120 is smaller but its got good low end, I also use it with the 33 carve which makes popping up easier. I put both masts in the same position.
You could use the second row of screw holes on sabfoil mast. It allows you to set the mast a few millimeters forward. In fact I am thinking about making new holes on lift mast so I can move forward the same way.
I have tried that in the surf, was a little better but still did not feel as good as my lift 120 setup. Had to step back much further and didn't pump as good.
looks like nobody has tried the w1110 on sup?
How do you even paddle up the w1000
you must be very light.
The new Leviathan is more targeted towards DW.
Select to expand quotenatlegacy said..cefirmeza said..natlegacy said..cefirmeza said..natlegacy said..
Aloha, Curious if anybody has tried the W1110 for SUP Downwind
I've tried it on the W1000 and didn't love it compared to my Lift 120 setup. The W1000 is paired with the kite fuse so the front wing is basically right up against the leading edge of the mast. It was hard to paddle up because I had to move my back foot very far back while paddling up in order to engage the foil and get the board in the air.
I would like a bigger wing for SUP downwind though, and curious if the extra lift generated by the W1110 would make it more useable than the W1000 paddling up. Once up and flying the W1000 felt pretty good, but the pump didn't feel as good to me compared to Lift. Any input here is much appreciated, mahalo!
Do you think the w1000 is harder than lift 120 to paddle up? How do you keep mast on the tracks with the lift 120 compared to sab w1000?
For me it was harder, but I also think because the front wing was further back then the 120 due to its positioning on the fuse (closer to the mast). If the wing/mast were further forward (on moses), my guess is it would be similar. 120 is smaller but its got good low end, I also use it with the 33 carve which makes popping up easier. I put both masts in the same position.
You could use the second row of screw holes on sabfoil mast. It allows you to set the mast a few millimeters forward. In fact I am thinking about making new holes on lift mast so I can move forward the same way.
I have tried that in the surf, was a little better but still did not feel as good as my lift 120 setup. Had to step back much further and didn't pump as good.
looks like nobody has tried the w1110 on sup?
Interesting I felt just the opposite. Could paddle up the w1000 way faster than the lift 120. Once up they both felt nice but I am used to ride sab on hand wing so pump and glide felt allright on the sup also.
The lift I had to adjust my paddling stance stepping way back and narrow stance so it wouldn't stall right away. I will make additional holes on plate similar to the sab mast.
Before I learned supfoil I borrowed the sab 1110 and rode once with a hand wing and after learned paddling up I was also curious about how would it feel downwinding.
It wasn't great on the wing because the lack of turns but it has the same glide and speed feeling of the w1000.
Still interested for lightwind sup. I weight 63kg and ride a 83L sup.
Select to expand quotecefirmeza said..natlegacy said..cefirmeza said..natlegacy said..cefirmeza said..natlegacy said..
Aloha, Curious if anybody has tried the W1110 for SUP Downwind
I've tried it on the W1000 and didn't love it compared to my Lift 120 setup. The W1000 is paired with the kite fuse so the front wing is basically right up against the leading edge of the mast. It was hard to paddle up because I had to move my back foot very far back while paddling up in order to engage the foil and get the board in the air.
I would like a bigger wing for SUP downwind though, and curious if the extra lift generated by the W1110 would make it more useable than the W1000 paddling up. Once up and flying the W1000 felt pretty good, but the pump didn't feel as good to me compared to Lift. Any input here is much appreciated, mahalo!
Do you think the w1000 is harder than lift 120 to paddle up? How do you keep mast on the tracks with the lift 120 compared to sab w1000?
For me it was harder, but I also think because the front wing was further back then the 120 due to its positioning on the fuse (closer to the mast). If the wing/mast were further forward (on moses), my guess is it would be similar. 120 is smaller but its got good low end, I also use it with the 33 carve which makes popping up easier. I put both masts in the same position.
You could use the second row of screw holes on sabfoil mast. It allows you to set the mast a few millimeters forward. In fact I am thinking about making new holes on lift mast so I can move forward the same way.
I have tried that in the surf, was a little better but still did not feel as good as my lift 120 setup. Had to step back much further and didn't pump as good.
looks like nobody has tried the w1110 on sup?
Interesting I felt just the opposite. Could paddle up the w1000 way faster than the lift 120. Once up they both felt nice but I am used to ride sab on hand wing so pump and glide felt allright on the sup also.
The lift I had to adjust my paddling stance stepping way back and narrow stance so it wouldn't stall right away. I will make additional holes on plate similar to the sab mast.
Before I learned supfoil I borrowed the sab 1110 and rode once with a hand wing and after learned paddling up I was also curious about how would it feel downwinding.
It wasn't great on the wing because the lack of turns but it has the same glide and speed feeling of the w1000.
Still interested for lightwind sup. I weight 63kg and ride a 83L sup.
Thank you for the info good sir!!
thats interesting you felt the w1000 was easier then the 120 for paddling up. Did you have your mast in the same position as lift?
I found that I had to move my back leg a lot further back for the w1000 compared to lift, but it sounds like for you it was the opposite.
which fuse and tail wing are you running with the w1000?
Select to expand quotecefirmeza said..natlegacy said..cefirmeza said..natlegacy said..cefirmeza said..natlegacy said..
Aloha, Curious if anybody has tried the W1110 for SUP Downwind
I've tried it on the W1000 and didn't love it compared to my Lift 120 setup. The W1000 is paired with the kite fuse so the front wing is basically right up against the leading edge of the mast. It was hard to paddle up because I had to move my back foot very far back while paddling up in order to engage the foil and get the board in the air.
I would like a bigger wing for SUP downwind though, and curious if the extra lift generated by the W1110 would make it more useable than the W1000 paddling up. Once up and flying the W1000 felt pretty good, but the pump didn't feel as good to me compared to Lift. Any input here is much appreciated, mahalo!
Do you think the w1000 is harder than lift 120 to paddle up? How do you keep mast on the tracks with the lift 120 compared to sab w1000?
For me it was harder, but I also think because the front wing was further back then the 120 due to its positioning on the fuse (closer to the mast). If the wing/mast were further forward (on moses), my guess is it would be similar. 120 is smaller but its got good low end, I also use it with the 33 carve which makes popping up easier. I put both masts in the same position.
You could use the second row of screw holes on sabfoil mast. It allows you to set the mast a few millimeters forward. In fact I am thinking about making new holes on lift mast so I can move forward the same way.
I have tried that in the surf, was a little better but still did not feel as good as my lift 120 setup. Had to step back much further and didn't pump as good.
looks like nobody has tried the w1110 on sup?
Interesting I felt just the opposite. Could paddle up the w1000 way faster than the lift 120. Once up they both felt nice but I am used to ride sab on hand wing so pump and glide felt allright on the sup also.
The lift I had to adjust my paddling stance stepping way back and narrow stance so it wouldn't stall right away. I will make additional holes on plate similar to the sab mast.
Before I learned supfoil I borrowed the sab 1110 and rode once with a hand wing and after learned paddling up I was also curious about how would it feel downwinding.
It wasn't great on the wing because the lack of turns but it has the same glide and speed feeling of the w1000.
Still interested for lightwind sup. I weight 63kg and ride a 83L sup.
I recommend you try the w1110 with the 603 fuse and the 370 or a chopped up 425 to 370. It turns into a magic carving machine
Hi Natlegacy,
I have used the W1100, W1000, W1110 and 1150-L for wing foiling in that order. I mostly only ride downwind surfing wind chop in winds from 15-30 knots. I weigh 100kg and started on a Fanatic Sky SUP 6'3", then SABFoil T98 Albatross, and now an SIC Raptor 5' 80lt.
The W1000 is fast as heck and was pretty fun to carve at speed. It does do part of the job for downwinding really well, but not an easy start and not great glide in lighter conditions if you're a heavier rider.
The W1110 was a real improvement for me and I put it to good use downwinding. It certainly had much improved glide and start whilst still maintaining a pretty easy to use fast foil. Depending upon your weight and conditions, the 1110 can be an excellent choice and clearly is the standout when looking at wings that fit on the kite fuselage.
If you're open to changing fuse to the 700 HS, you can bolt on the new 1150-L which is just incredible. I have just recently done a review on this wing.
DM
Select to expand quotenatlegacy said..cefirmeza said..natlegacy said..cefirmeza said..natlegacy said..cefirmeza said..natlegacy said..
Aloha, Curious if anybody has tried the W1110 for SUP Downwind
I've tried it on the W1000 and didn't love it compared to my Lift 120 setup. The W1000 is paired with the kite fuse so the front wing is basically right up against the leading edge of the mast. It was hard to paddle up because I had to move my back foot very far back while paddling up in order to engage the foil and get the board in the air.
I would like a bigger wing for SUP downwind though, and curious if the extra lift generated by the W1110 would make it more useable than the W1000 paddling up. Once up and flying the W1000 felt pretty good, but the pump didn't feel as good to me compared to Lift. Any input here is much appreciated, mahalo!
Do you think the w1000 is harder than lift 120 to paddle up? How do you keep mast on the tracks with the lift 120 compared to sab w1000?
For me it was harder, but I also think because the front wing was further back then the 120 due to its positioning on the fuse (closer to the mast). If the wing/mast were further forward (on moses), my guess is it would be similar. 120 is smaller but its got good low end, I also use it with the 33 carve which makes popping up easier. I put both masts in the same position.
You could use the second row of screw holes on sabfoil mast. It allows you to set the mast a few millimeters forward. In fact I am thinking about making new holes on lift mast so I can move forward the same way.
I have tried that in the surf, was a little better but still did not feel as good as my lift 120 setup. Had to step back much further and didn't pump as good.
looks like nobody has tried the w1110 on sup?
Interesting I felt just the opposite. Could paddle up the w1000 way faster than the lift 120. Once up they both felt nice but I am used to ride sab on hand wing so pump and glide felt allright on the sup also.
The lift I had to adjust my paddling stance stepping way back and narrow stance so it wouldn't stall right away. I will make additional holes on plate similar to the sab mast.
Before I learned supfoil I borrowed the sab 1110 and rode once with a hand wing and after learned paddling up I was also curious about how would it feel downwinding.
It wasn't great on the wing because the lack of turns but it has the same glide and speed feeling of the w1000.
Still interested for lightwind sup. I weight 63kg and ride a 83L sup.
Thank you for the info good sir!!
thats interesting you felt the w1000 was easier then the 120 for paddling up. Did you have your mast in the same position as lift?
I found that I had to move my back leg a lot further back for the w1000 compared to lift, but it sounds like for you it was the opposite.
which fuse and tail wing are you running with the w1000?
I used the s399 and old 647 fuse all forward on the second holes so a bit further than the 120.
also 0.5shim on the stab so it might have helped. Try different shim angles and see if it improves the lift at take off. Or even a base plate shim at the rear bolts I heard it also helps.
Select to expand quoteActionSportsWA said..
Hi Natlegacy,
I have used the W1100, W1000, W1110 and 1150-L for wing foiling in that order. I mostly only ride downwind surfing wind chop in winds from 15-30 knots. I weigh 100kg and started on a Fanatic Sky SUP 6'3", then SABFoil T98 Albatross, and now an SIC Raptor 5' 80lt.
The W1000 is fast as heck and was pretty fun to carve at speed. It does do part of the job for downwinding really well, but not an easy start and not great glide in lighter conditions if you're a heavier rider.
The W1110 was a real improvement for me and I put it to good use downwinding. It certainly had much improved glide and start whilst still maintaining a pretty easy to use fast foil. Depending upon your weight and conditions, the 1110 can be an excellent choice and clearly is the standout when looking at wings that fit on the kite fuselage.
If you're open to changing fuse to the 700 HS, you can bolt on the new 1150-L which is just incredible. I have just recently done a review on this wing.
DM
Thanks for all the info DM!
I Just ordered the w1110. Was looking at the 1150-L, but at 65kg I think its a bit much for me. Was also looking at the 950-L which would ultimately be a better size for me, but what I dont understand is why that aspect ratio is so much lower then the other Leviathan wings. Afraid it will be very slow. Do you have any ride time / experience with it?
Select to expand quotenatlegacy said..ActionSportsWA said..
Hi Natlegacy,
I have used the W1100, W1000, W1110 and 1150-L for wing foiling in that order. I mostly only ride downwind surfing wind chop in winds from 15-30 knots. I weigh 100kg and started on a Fanatic Sky SUP 6'3", then SABFoil T98 Albatross, and now an SIC Raptor 5' 80lt.
The W1000 is fast as heck and was pretty fun to carve at speed. It does do part of the job for downwinding really well, but not an easy start and not great glide in lighter conditions if you're a heavier rider.
The W1110 was a real improvement for me and I put it to good use downwinding. It certainly had much improved glide and start whilst still maintaining a pretty easy to use fast foil. Depending upon your weight and conditions, the 1110 can be an excellent choice and clearly is the standout when looking at wings that fit on the kite fuselage.
If you're open to changing fuse to the 700 HS, you can bolt on the new 1150-L which is just incredible. I have just recently done a review on this wing.
DM
Thanks for all the info DM!
I Just ordered the w1110. Was looking at the 1150-L, but at 65kg I think its a bit much for me. Was also looking at the 950-L which would ultimately be a better size for me, but what I dont understand is why that aspect ratio is so much lower then the other Leviathan wings. Afraid it will be very slow. Do you have any ride time / experience with it?
I think all the Leviathan range is slow by design but that is why it is so good for pumping and riding slow bumps. The magic of the leviathan range is more on its profile rather than the aspect ratio. I haven't received my 950 yet but I believe it will be a tad faster than its big brothers just because there is less matter in the water. Having said this, It will hardly be a super playful ride but more of a chill pill one... maybe a shorter fuse would spice things up a little.
Just did my first SUP downwinder on the Moses w1110. Can confirm its an epic wing. kite 647 fuse and 399 tail wing.
