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New Army V2 CF 1200

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Created by Piros > 9 months ago, 1 Jun 2022
Piros
QLD, 7211 posts
1 Jun 2022 6:51PM
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This will be interesting. Nice video of the new 1200 looks pretty good . Anyone got more info .

radair
151 posts
1 Jun 2022 5:32PM
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I think your sizes in the title are off. V2 sizes are 2050, 1600, 1200 and 950.

See www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Wing-Foiling/Wind-Wings/Armstrong-CF-V2?page=1#17

toppleover
QLD, 2067 posts
1 Jun 2022 7:39PM
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Looks loose with plentiful glide.
But unfortunately Sky could make anything look good, will be interesting to see reviews from the everyday foilers.
Hope it's as good as Sky makes it look

kobo
NSW, 1107 posts
1 Jun 2022 7:42PM
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Sky could make a front door for a foil look good , so won't really know until some get out and about, but from the reviews I've seen they are really a beginner foil so no interest to me.

Windoc
442 posts
1 Jun 2022 10:34PM
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I'd be curious to see a head to head comparison of a chopped HS1250 versus the CF1200.

tinka
QLD, 80 posts
6 Aug 2022 3:38PM
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Piros said..
This will be interesting. Nice video of the new 1200 looks pretty good . Anyone got more info .


Piros 67kg 5,2 Naish hover sup surfer. Been demoing the 1200 for the past couple of days ,its a fun wing to foil not as quick on the take off like the hs1250 but after a few pumps it gets there . T he wing has got a gentle lift and is so stable ,skatey and loose on a wave such a surfy wing cutting back is mental you wang it into turns at top speed at it just powers up as the wing tips are not as flexable as the Hs1250 the 1200 just drives through the turns without any chance of stalling the glide is so much better than the 1250 . I can see why Arnie is saying its a learner to expert wing as its fail proof ,doesnt breech even at high speed ,but if youve got the skill set its a good surf wing to me Ive also demoed the 1600 1 thought it would be a beast but its a really mellow foil ,it comes to the foil very gradual and to be honest i reckon that is the go to wing for any learner as its is ridicoulously the most stable wing ive foiled ,speed is pretty up there same as the 1200 just kick it up and the it comes to the foil. But to beat it all the 950 is mental i own of these .I had one to trialfor a cweek and actually got a couple of over head days followed by smaller days to maybe only knee high this wing is fast and stable and due to its size you can attempt absolutely anthing without getting into to much trouble , big days or anything over chest high this is the go to speed,turning ability ,and surfy feel this wing to me is unreal paired with a 232 or 195 tail wing this foil is unreal .You must try

Supmaori
746 posts
12 Aug 2022 8:13AM
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Hey Piros..thats all good news..my 1600 and 1200 have just arrived. At what size wave did you use either the 1600 over the 1200 or visa versa. I also have the Foil Drive Plus which i been frothing on using the 1550V1 but on bigger unbroken swell i was needing a smaller front wing . The CF v2 looks to fit this perfectly. Maiden voyage tomorrow sup foiling the 1600

Windoc
442 posts
12 Aug 2022 12:13PM
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Supmaori said..
Maiden voyage tomorrow sup foiling the 1600


I'd love to hear your report on the 1600 on the SUP. Been eying one up over the 1550V2 but am also hoping for a new HA-ish foil in that equivalent size to be announced in the coming months.

tinka
QLD, 80 posts
12 Aug 2022 5:40PM
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Windoc said..

Supmaori said..
Maiden voyage tomorrow sup foiling the 1600



I'd love to hear your report on the 1600 on the SUP. Been eying one up over the 1550V2 but am also hoping for a new HA-ish foil in that equivalent size to be announced in the coming months.


I've foiled the 1600cf v2 on a sup and the 1550 v2 . The 1550 seems to be slightly faster when you catch a wave compared to the cf 1600 and to turn the 1550 v2 you have to run off speed . The cf 1600 when you catch a wave comes up really smooth and a few pumps it speeds up to about the same top speed as the 1550.The cf is a far more stable platform and at top speed you can throw it into turns and it just drives ,in surf it feels more like surfing especially if you have to keep cutting back and what you can achieve is nice floaters in the white water withe no fluttery twichtyness what you would get when using the 1550. It all depends on Wether you want a fast twitchy glider or a stable surfy wing which in my opinion if you wawant to surf the cf1600 and if you want to glide around usue the 1550.

Windoc
442 posts
13 Aug 2022 1:44AM
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I've foiled the 1600cf v2 on a sup and the 1550 v2 . The 1550 seems to be slightly faster when you catch a wave compared to the cf 1600 and to turn the 1550 v2 you have to run off speed . The cf 1600 when you catch a wave comes up really smooth and a few pumps it speeds up to about the same top speed as the 1550.The cf is a far more stable platform and at top speed you can throw it into turns and it just drives ,in surf it feels more like surfing especially if you have to keep cutting back and what you can achieve is nice floaters in the white water withe no fluttery twichtyness what you would get when using the 1550. It all depends on Wether you want a fast twitchy glider or a stable surfy wing which in my opinion if you wawant to surf the cf1600 and if you want to glide around usue the 1550.


Thanks for that, Tinka!

Supmaori
746 posts
15 Aug 2022 4:48AM
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Kia Ora Team

had 2 big 3 hours sessions on the weekend sup foiling the new CF V 2 1600 in waist to shoulder height surf on the Armie 5'11 FG board.
Tinka pretty much summed it up perfectly. I ride the 1550V1 in surf so can compare the 1600 to that.
The biggest takeaways from the weekend was the smooth lift profile compared to 1550. 1600 just lifts so much better and cleaner.
I found the 1550 has some titchyness to it when riding but the 1600 has none of that. super stable, predictable yet feels progessive and carves like butter.
The other thing i was stoked about is the speed..especially when turning..the 1600 was far superior in turning with no need to drop off speed. Couldnt get back to the pocket effortlessly and stay there. For me this wing is a game changer..was doing and making turns i wasnt on the 1550, raised my foil game big time. Also have the 1200 for the bigger days. Stoked..still frothing now

Nga Mihi - East Coast- NZ

tinka
QLD, 80 posts
15 Aug 2022 5:59PM
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Supmaori said..
Kia Ora Team

had 2 big 3 hours sessions on the weekend sup foiling the new CF V 2 1600 in waist to shoulder height surf on the Armie 5'11 FG board.
Tinka pretty much summed it up perfectly. I ride the 1550V1 in surf so can compare the 1600 to that.
The biggest takeaways from the weekend was the smooth lift profile compared to 1550. 1600 just lifts so much better and cleaner.
I found the 1550 has some titchyness to it when riding but the 1600 has none of that. super stable, predictable yet feels progessive and carves like butter.
The other thing i was stoked about is the speed..especially when turning..the 1600 was far superior in turning with no need to drop off speed. Couldnt get back to the pocket effortlessly and stay there. For me this wing is a game changer..was doing and making turns i wasnt on the 1550, raised my foil game big time. Also have the 1200 for the bigger days. Stoked..still frothing now

Nga Mihi - East Coast- NZ


You should try the 950 it's insane. Especially when it's head high.so stable and ridiculous speed

ninjatuna
244 posts
15 Aug 2022 11:24PM
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Supmaori said..
Kia Ora Team

had 2 big 3 hours sessions on the weekend sup foiling the new CF V 2 1600 in waist to shoulder height surf on the Armie 5'11 FG board.
Tinka pretty much summed it up perfectly. I ride the 1550V1 in surf so can compare the 1600 to that.
The biggest takeaways from the weekend was the smooth lift profile compared to 1550. 1600 just lifts so much better and cleaner.
I found the 1550 has some titchyness to it when riding but the 1600 has none of that. super stable, predictable yet feels progessive and carves like butter.
The other thing i was stoked about is the speed..especially when turning..the 1600 was far superior in turning with no need to drop off speed. Couldnt get back to the pocket effortlessly and stay there. For me this wing is a game changer..was doing and making turns i wasnt on the 1550, raised my foil game big time. Also have the 1200 for the bigger days. Stoked..still frothing now

Nga Mihi - East Coast- NZ


What tail were you riding with the 1600? Thanks for the info

Supmaori
746 posts
16 Aug 2022 3:57AM
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ninjatuna said..

Supmaori said..
Kia Ora Team

had 2 big 3 hours sessions on the weekend sup foiling the new CF V 2 1600 in waist to shoulder height surf on the Armie 5'11 FG board.
Tinka pretty much summed it up perfectly. I ride the 1550V1 in surf so can compare the 1600 to that.
The biggest takeaways from the weekend was the smooth lift profile compared to 1550. 1600 just lifts so much better and cleaner.
I found the 1550 has some titchyness to it when riding but the 1600 has none of that. super stable, predictable yet feels progessive and carves like butter.
The other thing i was stoked about is the speed..especially when turning..the 1600 was far superior in turning with no need to drop off speed. Couldnt get back to the pocket effortlessly and stay there. For me this wing is a game changer..was doing and making turns i wasnt on the 1550, raised my foil game big time. Also have the 1200 for the bigger days. Stoked..still frothing now

Nga Mihi - East Coast- NZ



What tail were you riding with the 1600? Thanks for the info


I was on the 300...i like to start there with new wings/ gear and then move to the 232

tinka
QLD, 80 posts
14 Sep 2022 5:47PM
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ninjatuna said..

Supmaori said..
Kia Ora Team

had 2 big 3 hours sessions on the weekend sup foiling the new CF V 2 1600 in waist to shoulder height surf on the Armie 5'11 FG board.
Tinka pretty much summed it up perfectly. I ride the 1550V1 in surf so can compare the 1600 to that.
The biggest takeaways from the weekend was the smooth lift profile compared to 1550. 1600 just lifts so much better and cleaner.
I found the 1550 has some titchyness to it when riding but the 1600 has none of that. super stable, predictable yet feels progessive and carves like butter.
The other thing i was stoked about is the speed..especially when turning..the 1600 was far superior in turning with no need to drop off speed. Couldnt get back to the pocket effortlessly and stay there. For me this wing is a game changer..was doing and making turns i wasnt on the 1550, raised my foil game big time. Also have the 1200 for the bigger days. Stoked..still frothing now

Nga Mihi - East Coast- NZ



What tail were you riding with the 1600? Thanks for the info



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Supmaori said..

ninjatuna said..


Supmaori said..
Kia Ora Team

had 2 big 3 hours sessions on the weekend sup foiling the new CF V 2 1600 in waist to shoulder height surf on the Armie 5'11 FG board.
Tinka pretty much summed it up perfectly. I ride the 1550V1 in surf so can compare the 1600 to that.
The biggest takeaways from the weekend was the smooth lift profile compared to 1550. 1600 just lifts so much better and cleaner.
I found the 1550 has some titchyness to it when riding but the 1600 has none of that. super stable, predictable yet feels progessive and carves like butter.
The other thing i was stoked about is the speed..especially when turning..the 1600 was far superior in turning with no need to drop off speed. Couldnt get back to the pocket effortlessly and stay there. For me this wing is a game changer..was doing and making turns i wasnt on the 1550, raised my foil game big time. Also have the 1200 for the bigger days. Stoked..still frothing now

Nga Mihi - East Coast- NZ




What tail were you riding with the 1600? Thanks for the info



I was on the 300...i like to start there with new wings/ gear and then move to the 232



232 tail plus 1 shim

Foilnut
181 posts
14 Sep 2022 10:44PM
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tinka said..

Supmaori said..
Kia Ora Team

had 2 big 3 hours sessions on the weekend sup foiling the new CF V 2 1600 in waist to shoulder height surf on the Armie 5'11 FG board.
Tinka pretty much summed it up perfectly. I ride the 1550V1 in surf so can compare the 1600 to that.
The biggest takeaways from the weekend was the smooth lift profile compared to 1550. 1600 just lifts so much better and cleaner.
I found the 1550 has some titchyness to it when riding but the 1600 has none of that. super stable, predictable yet feels progessive and carves like butter.
The other thing i was stoked about is the speed..especially when turning..the 1600 was far superior in turning with no need to drop off speed. Couldnt get back to the pocket effortlessly and stay there. For me this wing is a game changer..was doing and making turns i wasnt on the 1550, raised my foil game big time. Also have the 1200 for the bigger days. Stoked..still frothing now

Nga Mihi - East Coast- NZ



You should try the 950 it's insane. Especially when it's head high.so stable and ridiculous speed


tinka can you compare to HS1050?

Rode CF1600 tow foiling behind 9.9hp. Super smooth, carving is sweet, and no suprise lift moments

eppo
WA, 9686 posts
15 Sep 2022 6:15AM
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Does it pump and link as easy as the HS? If not - I'm out. Still need that improved HS I think.

Foilnut
181 posts
15 Sep 2022 9:43AM
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The CF1600 does not pump as well as the HS1550V2. The CF1600 is a carving foil

kobo
NSW, 1107 posts
15 Sep 2022 5:17PM
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eppo said..
Does it pump and link as easy as the HS? If not - I'm out. Still need that improved HS I think.


Just be patient eppo .. Good things come to those who wait

ninjatuna
244 posts
17 Sep 2022 6:11AM
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I was lucky enough to see Zane Schweitzer riding out at my local this week. Very cool to watch him in person and close up. He was killing with one of the local guys on tow in. Later I asked about the setup they were riding. 950CF2/50/85/200vtail. It was amazing how he could maintain speed all over the waves. And it was a lot of speed. Big banking high G turns to where he was crouched super low. Changed my mind in the thinking that these CF2 foils are not that fast.

eppo
WA, 9686 posts
17 Sep 2022 11:10AM
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kobo said..


eppo said..
Does it pump and link as easy as the HS? If not - I'm out. Still need that improved HS I think.




Just be patient eppo .. Good things come to those who wait



Yeh I'm trying man, I'm trying!! Meanwhile just lost my sh1t on the 925 today! Trying to implement some of your tips still.

kobo
NSW, 1107 posts
17 Sep 2022 2:21PM
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My favorite 925 setup is with 50 fuse and 195 0 shim, fast,good turning and easy pump.



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