Jb Sup Foil

JB Messenger out at a Sydney foiling reef on his Naish Raptor 7'0" x 31" (V116) and a Naish Thrust Surf Large Foil

The waves seemed quite tricky to "read" for foiling... I guess similar to hunting for bumps in downwinding...

Thanks for sharing, making it look too easy JB!

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roachy said..
Nice , how is the large foil compared to the medium ?

It's approx. 20% bigger - therefore give more lift. This said it is also a little more drag and you will notice it. I will base my response off my weight (95+kg) and findings.

- Medium. Faster to paddle. Gets up about the same time as the Large (even though less lift, it has more speed easier = Lift). More maneuverable (quicker to transition from turn to turn), and glides faster. But I find I have to pump quite a bit more, especially on smaller waves.

- Large. Lots of lift. Once you pop up, you rarely go back down without you wanting to. Super stable, really really stable. You will find the paddle back out a little harder and it's not quite as nimble as the Medium (transitioning from turn to turn).

Conclusion, I prefer the Large in the conditions I ride. If I was to ride bigger and faster waves, I would prefer the medium. Or possibly for Prone (std) Surfing. As a bigger rider I am used to the weigh offs to get the performance I need. I think most beginners will prefer the Large unless your a lightweight. Lightweight is a difficult one to but an exact number to as there are so many variables. But if you're aiming to ride bigger swells/waves and are under 80-85, consider the Medium (if you don;t need to constantly pump to stay on the foil, then you'll prefer the Medium).

I hope this helps,

Foil Safe,

JB

Hi JB,
thanx for all the valuable Infos.
Someone her mentioned you have some advice for positioning the Naish foils.
Is it also 20" from tail to back of mast like with the GoFoil?
Alex

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AlexF said..
Hi JB,
thanx for all the valuable Infos.
Someone her mentioned you have some advice for positioning the Naish foils.
Is it also 20" from tail to back of mast like with the GoFoil?
Alex

When you say 20", this is dependant on the size of the board, and also the waves you are riding. I ride a 7' board and use 20" for the fuller and smaller waves, and trim back to about 19" - 19.5" on bigger and steeper days. This is the beauty of the duel track system. Use the Go Foil graph as a starting point, some you've used both, feel the Naish Thrust likes to ride a little further back.

If you want help deciding where to put boxes, let me know which board you are considering converting, and I'll try help.

Ride safe,

JB

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JB said..

AlexF said..
Hi JB,
thanx for all the valuable Infos.
Someone her mentioned you have some advice for positioning the Naish foils.
Is it also 20" from tail to back of mast like with the GoFoil?
Alex

When you say 20", this is dependant on the size of the board, and also the waves you are riding. I ride a 7' board and use 20" for the fuller and smaller waves, and trim back to about 19" - 19.5" on bigger and steeper days. This is the beauty of the duel track system. Use the Go Foil graph as a starting point, some you've used both, feel the Naish Thrust likes to ride a little further back.

If you want help deciding where to put boxes, let me know which board you are considering converting, and I'll try help.

Ride safe,

JB

I'll get a 8' x 30" custom board, tomostyle like the 2017 JP Surf Slate 8 x 30 or the Fone Papenoo 7'11.
The foil will be plate mount either Naish, Slingshot or Takuma
Thanx for your help.
Alex