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Foil boards

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Created by teatrea > 9 months ago, 8 Mar 2018
teatrea
QLD, 4177 posts
8 Mar 2018 12:51PM
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Thinking of getting either a larger foil , or new board, I'm riding a 10 year old Nash 9,3 , goes OK, but find I need a decent wave too get going, and also find offshore wind really slows it down. So wondering if anyone is making boards with aerodynamics in mind , once the board is in the air.?

OceanAddicts
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8 Mar 2018 2:53PM
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Hey bro, swing past Ocean Addicts and pick up a demo Naish Hover 120 or 95

Its going to feel 100 times better than your 9.3

Luke

paul.j
QLD, 3367 posts
8 Mar 2018 4:47PM
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Haha i am pretty sure you have a family member who could sort you out mate!!

Get a bigger wing and a new board and you will be blown away all over again.

The Kai wing is good but for your size the bigger IWA would be perfect. Talk to Jake and if he stuffs you around just come and see me and i will sort you something when you are ready.

colas
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8 Mar 2018 3:37PM
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teatrea said..

Thinking of getting either a larger foil , or new board, I'm riding a 10 year old Nash 9,3 , goes OK, but find I need a decent wave too get going, and also find offshore wind really slows it down. So wondering if anyone is making boards with aerodynamics in mind , once the board is in the air.?


For foiling, a shorter and lighter board makes wonders. Offshore winds or not.

BTW, I foiled with strong offshore winds with my 8'9", and it was not so bad, as I had a centered position on the board. One of the drawbacks of having the foil in the rear is all this board area in front that can catch the wind and put things off balance. But the most important point is to go down in board size as much as possible, but I don't think it is advisable for the first sessions, as board length helps a lot taking off, as long as you do not have the balance of paddling with a foil dialed in. Plus you must already be used to paddling short SUPs.

teatrea
QLD, 4177 posts
8 Mar 2018 5:42PM
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paul.j said..
Haha i am pretty sure you have a family member who could sort you out mate!!

Get a bigger wing and a new board and you will be blown away all over again.

The Kai wing is good but for your size the bigger IWA would be perfect. Talk to Jake and if he stuffs you around just come and see me and i will sort you something when you are ready.


LoL, yeah can't decide on a board or new wing, the one I have goes awesome in the right conditions , so I'm thinking a smaller lighter board. But what I'm really asking is are we going too see boards that increase lift and decrease drag, adding too the experience, or does it probably not matter too much. It's interesting as that same day a guy was out on a prone sup , on o e of those tiny one boards, and a few waves I seen him get, he looked really slow. Whereas the couple decent ones I got, I still got some good speed, so did the larger heavier board help? Anyways food for thought, it's still early days for foiling I guess, and I'm sure it will keep on advancing.

teatrea
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8 Mar 2018 5:46PM
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colas said..

teatrea said..

Thinking of getting either a larger foil , or new board, I'm riding a 10 year old Nash 9,3 , goes OK, but find I need a decent wave too get going, and also find offshore wind really slows it down. So wondering if anyone is making boards with aerodynamics in mind , once the board is in the air.?



For foiling, a shorter and lighter board makes wonders. Offshore winds or not.

BTW, I foiled with strong offshore winds with my 8'9", and it was not so bad, as I had a centered position on the board. One of the drawbacks of having the foil in the rear is all this board area in front that can catch the wind and put things off balance. But the most important point is to go down in board size as much as possible, but I don't think it is advisable for the first sessions, as board length helps a lot taking off, as long as you do not have the balance of paddling with a foil dialed in. Plus you must already be used to paddling short SUPs.


Makes sense, the board I'm on in some conditions goes unreal, but in offshore especially struggles. Yeah think I'll go smaller board, before changing wings. ??

paul.j
QLD, 3367 posts
8 Mar 2018 6:10PM
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teatrea said..

paul.j said..
Haha i am pretty sure you have a family member who could sort you out mate!!

Get a bigger wing and a new board and you will be blown away all over again.

The Kai wing is good but for your size the bigger IWA would be perfect. Talk to Jake and if he stuffs you around just come and see me and i will sort you something when you are ready.



LoL, yeah can't decide on a board or new wing, the one I have goes awesome in the right conditions , so I'm thinking a smaller lighter board. But what I'm really asking is are we going too see boards that increase lift and decrease drag, adding too the experience, or does it probably not matter too much. It's interesting as that same day a guy was out on a prone sup , on o e of those tiny one boards, and a few waves I seen him get, he looked really slow. Whereas the couple decent ones I got, I still got some good speed, so did the larger heavier board help? Anyways food for thought, it's still early days for foiling I guess, and I'm sure it will keep on advancing.


bigger wing will help massively!!

you must weigh 90kg? so the IWA will make a huge difference, also maybe we should look at the angle the foil sits in the board as yours was one of the first ever done so maybe the angle could be a little off.

Jayden has the 5'6 at the moment you should take it and try it out as that will answer your question on the smaller board.

we have a few shorter SUP foil boards arriving soon as well so heaps of options coming up.

teatrea
QLD, 4177 posts
8 Mar 2018 6:24PM
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Yeah seen that board, looks great. Does a bigger wing = slower, cause I like too go fast. Plus I have a problem , it's called a wife.They don't like it when you buy too many toys for yourself ??So I have too choose between a bigger foil or better board, LoL.

colas
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8 Mar 2018 5:12PM
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so did the larger heavier board help?



No, for foiling, larger and heavier has no advantage. Once you foil on a shorter board, it is hard to get back on a longer board, everything seems so slow, and it is harder to pilot due to the added latency in the reactions of the gear.

I guess the guy you saw was on a slower wing with extra lift (bigger area or more importantly, profile thickness). A small board should fly faster as you are able to better control the foil and tap the juice.

I don't think I would want aerodynamic lift in a board. When you begin to get speed on a foil, you really want to have everything be as neutral handling as possible, and if possible auto-stabilizing.

stevet73
NSW, 241 posts
9 Mar 2018 5:39PM
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If I had an endless supply of cash I would get a dedicated foil board. But for me, I found retro fitting a suitably small, but not too small sup was the go. I like that I can still use it as a normal sup. Have found it super fun to learn on....still learning. Plus u do save a fair bit of outlay. Those stubby nose styles were recommended.... and was right on the money.



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