I still mostly kite but follow threads here and ARMSTRONG is familiar kit for a fair few.. SUP + WINGDING is next challenge 4me.
Being an opportunity knocks buyer..
Picked up a 2nd HS1550 this is a sloppy fit - put in a request to Armstrong - for their approach what is yours?
My current set of 3 wings fit tight to hex fuselage.
Fix needs to pad inside of 1550 hex female surfaces.
I experimented with narrow 50mm lengths of wet and dry (1200 grit) so basically paper thickness.
2 of these on 2 faces of the hex with one of the hex surfaces = a gap between were optimal. = Not much required but measured at the tip the wing moves 20mm up and down... (To visualize - assume 1 to 6 as hex surface labels strip W&D on face 1 and 3 or 2 & 4 or 3 & 5 ...)
Current thoughts - but no experience ...
1). paint epoxy on two 1550 faces and then refine fit with a file?
2). Cover male fuselage with film (gladwrap) and use rolled out strips of epoxy paste and shove wing into position and let it set?
3). XYZ??? product = Easy to use tough paint / glue which can be applied using a small paint brush.
4). ???
There was a post about doing equivalent to this sometime back but stuffed if I can find it
TIA
Cheers
AP
Rattle can of auto acrylic clear , spray inside wing then wait a few mins till dry, try on fuse, repeat until you get a tight fit. If you overdo it a little either push it on while the clear is still soft for a perfect fit then remove and leave to dry or Wipe out with thinners and try again. For best long term result leave overnight for clear to harden.Repeat maybe 6 months time depending on use.
Newspaper works a treat , just wrap some small pieces on the fuse and press on . Easy to remove to fit your other wings . Give it a go. I haven't needed to do it on the Army but worked a well on the Go foil .
I used super glue on the inside surfaces of the hex on wing. Its very thin and a drop or two spreads evenly when you tilt the wing around. Dries hard in a few minutes. Worked for me and very cheap to buy. I just did one surface at a time allowing it to dry and checked the fit before doing more.
You will not notice the movement. In the water the whole wing has pressure not just the tip with your fingers. Just use it.
Select to expand quotePierre74 said..
Maybe this can help :
It did it on my Gofoil, works ok.
Great,my Takuma is asking for it.
It's nice to see how the pros handle and fix the foils so casually...i treat mine like they were holy relics :)
Select to expand quotehilly said..
You will not notice the movement. In the water the whole wing has pressure not just the tip with your fingers. Just use it.
It might help you to turn harder, as the wing rocks from one side to the other, enhancing the mast flex ??
Or you could just fix it.
Or with pressure across the whole wing you will not get any movement and not feel any difference. A bit of movement soaks up the unevenness and gives you a smoother ride.
Whatever, love my Armstrong, wobble and all, feels so much better than every other foil I have ridden. SPG, GoFoil, Axis, Naish, NP and Konrad. But I am focused on waves. Can see Moses might be better high speed and GoFoil for pumping. Heaps of good kit out there we are lucky to have it all.
I have fixed the looseness in my Takuma using paper strips laminated with Superglue.Just cut some paper to measure,check without glue if you need 1 layer or more and then stick it on the flat sides of the wing interface.More superglue on top to waterproof it.
Easy to sand if too tight.
Epoxy resin as in the GoFoil vid is surely the best fix but i do not have demolding wax or epoxy at hand.
I only have one foil with this issue, due to over sanding a tight fit when new.
Solution is to cut small pieces of adhesive spinnaker repair tape and stick to 3 of the hexagon faces inside the female socket.. This tape is super thin and strong rip stop nylon, fit is tight as, last about 5 times off an on.
Quick to replace plus I use the same spinnaker tape to repair cuts in my wings, no need for a sail repair yet.
Buy from a Yacht chandlers.
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Aluminum duct tape.
yup...get it at home depot....i use this for all my GoFoil wings...only one wing fits solid...all the rest need 1 or 2 strip on opposing sides of the fuselage...
regular duct tape, masking tape, plastic tape anything else is a bad idea because theyll get wadded up and jam between the parts and youll have to hammer the hell out of the wing to get it off....
aluminum tape doesnt swell or compress...youll need to reapply a strip every 8- 10 installs but thats no big deal
Thank you for the scope of feedback - much appreciated.. I want all 4 foils I own to fit well w/o fiddly patches - so permanent.
I followed through on what resonated with me and how energetic I felt.. (Friday after mowing the lawn till dark)
1). Kobo's - easy as - but after 3 sparays and limited progress on fix - gap too big - cleaned out and..
2) Toomooh - Looked for Super glue - bugger too popular in this house someone had lifted my stash..Would be easy and tough fix IMO
3) Most effort - meeeh Modified Pierre74 video - (Didn't have any of the non-stick goop) So mixed 1 Part resin 1/2 Hardner 1 Part Q-cell (glass micro-balloons) -Didn't put too much effort into black colour match - (Also not appropriate for Carbon Fibre chop in mix - (V.Thin coats required - my sheet of C/F is quiet coarse) -- Painted 2 v.fine coats onto 5 of the 6 hex female surfaces - not screw hole face. - The pot went off solid in 35 minutes (exothermic big enough volume). I heated my paint job 3 times to help cure speed (Quiet hot - a Paint strip heat gun held 4-500 mm away with my hand acting as the temp sensor !!) Saturday am - tried fit - = approx 20mm shy - so small flat file - quiet vigorous - as tough mix - G8 tight fit after 3 file and try runs. Finished with Dry PTFE spray so don't need bashing when assembling on the beach..
As an aside a couple of years back- I had to rebuild a sheared winglet on a SS foil (not v strong) - I used 24 hour Araldite epoxy with Carbon fibre chop and moulded approx 150% oversize then shaped with a dremel and spray painted - this is a tough solution for thin sections which in this case appear to have been made with limited C/F or glass fibre. So simple products but moderate effort.
Cheers
AP
(Note to self buy super glue)
I ride GoFoils and use this tape from Jaycar. www.jaycar.com.au/aluminium-foil-tape-25mm/p/NM2862
Only 0.04mm thick but one or two strips make a noticable difference. Have only needed to reapply tape once after about 10 sessions, so roll will last longer than I will.
I've tried tape, epoxy ,superglue, and acrylic spray.tape is quickest but last the least, epoxy is good but thicker and easier to put too much on, Superglue is good and fast but really hard to sand, acrylic is easy but takes a few coats if gap too big.
Select to expand quoteLeeD said..
3 votes for alu duct tape.
The problem with tape is needs to be inside the foil which would be harder to apply. A couple of coats of clear lacquer spray into the foil would be easier to apply. His other foils fit fine.
I guess I didn't understand the problem.
I thought the problem was a loose connection between fuze receptor and front wing joint.
Alu tape should easily fill the void, and it doesn't rub off like duct, painters, or adhesive tapes.
Sorry, my bad.
Yep that's the right joint , but I find the wear is usually in the wing and not the fuse , so if you own several wings and only one fuse it's better to fix the wings otherwise the fuse won't fit your other wings. I own 4 wings and 2 fuse so I want to make sure they all stay interchangeable.
This looks like a simple fix from Marty Carter. Screen shot taken from Facebook Armstrong foil riders group. He just waxes the fuse with surfboard wax to eliminate any play. Done.
