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Electric/Jet Foil

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Created by PTWoody > 9 months ago, 3 Aug 2016
PTWoody
VIC, 3982 posts
3 Aug 2016 3:43PM
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Now this makes sense. At least, it looks like more people could get it working.

Piros
QLD, 7213 posts
3 Aug 2016 4:07PM
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I knew this was around the corner but not so soon. Couple of other proto types around. The foil has so little drag once it's up the electric motor should last for ages. This one does look easy to ride.

DavidJohn
VIC, 17569 posts
3 Aug 2016 4:57PM
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I like it.. for just cruising around like that..

You could even use an inflatable board for that..

shi thouse
WA, 1151 posts
3 Aug 2016 3:26PM
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Funny how the only conditions that they used it in were mirror flat water though.

warwickl
NSW, 2352 posts
3 Aug 2016 5:58PM
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Definitely for me in the next few years

ChuckSteak
QLD, 83 posts
3 Aug 2016 7:57PM
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Looks like they are hooking along...!!!

DavidJohn
VIC, 17569 posts
3 Aug 2016 8:16PM
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At St Kilda marina we have a speed limit and I'm sure that's over it.. and we often get these big basket ball size jelly fish.. Hitting one of those at speed is sure to result in an unexpected face plant.. It's bad enough when your fin hits them at slow speeds..

Craig66
NSW, 2466 posts
3 Aug 2016 8:27PM
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So what happens when the battery goes flat and your a long way from home, or as they say, up the creek with OUT a paddle?

yt04
QLD, 397 posts
3 Aug 2016 8:54PM
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Supercool!??

teatrea
QLD, 4177 posts
3 Aug 2016 9:01PM
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Reckon I'd get bored with that in about one hour.

colas
5364 posts
3 Aug 2016 8:27PM
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teatrea said..
Reckon I'd get bored with that in about one hour.


I see it as an excellent way to learn balancing on a foil, before attempting kitefoil/windfoil/supfoil/surffoil

SRrat
WA, 240 posts
3 Aug 2016 8:33PM
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Could be interesting going downwind....until the battery runs flat

Antho
VIC, 516 posts
3 Aug 2016 11:32PM
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I wouldn't say no if I was offered a go !

Chopsup
SA, 123 posts
3 Aug 2016 11:19PM
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There is a distinct lack of turns in that vid! Won't be fun if you can't hook into a turn........

Smash1
NSW, 826 posts
4 Aug 2016 8:56AM
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I want one.......................when I'm 90

Rossall
WA, 726 posts
4 Aug 2016 10:47AM
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Strange that they do not show anyone actually turning the board, do they only go in straight lines ?

Phil

Piros
QLD, 7213 posts
4 Aug 2016 4:35PM
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They will turn fine but that is the next level of foiling. Watch what happens to me at the end of this video when I try to turn. I'm only a beginner but I have taken heaps of kiters out behind the boat and they carve some pretty serious turns.

Smash1
NSW, 826 posts
4 Aug 2016 4:55PM
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Piros said..
They will turn fine but that is the next level of foiling. Watch what happens to me at the end of this video when I try to turn. I'm only a beginner but I have taken heaps of kiters out behind the boat and they carve some pretty serious turns.


The perfect dismount

MarcCRider
61 posts
4 Aug 2016 3:20PM
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For flatwater cruising as shown seems quite boring once got the hang of the equilibrium, but as a learning or assisting platform for other uses, may be.
Just brainstorming :
Some experience multi sport rider (Kai Lenny, C Baxter, Robby N...) should try in a downbreezer. Hopefully, the motor would only be needed to take off, once up, the runners and wind should do the rest. Even more interesting: in a downbreezer you could use the motor to assist you upwind in prone position, so no car shuttle hassle

Once with proper high wind downwinder conditions you don't need the motor. Put that same foil in a sup downwinding foil board (need to be lighter) and there you go, the balance and skills you learnt in milder conditions will have prepared you for the real thing
As I said, just brainstorming, does anyone see a problem in that idea? Any other crazy ideas?

by the way, I assume the jet for propulsion comes from the board tail (I see some sprinkler out of the tail, even airborne) but not sure. The don't show the foil but if the jet comes from the board tail it shoudn't be special besides having the right wing surface

Piros
QLD, 7213 posts
4 Aug 2016 5:45PM
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Like your thinking MarcCRider once you are up and riding on a downwind run you won't need the motor. The motor will definitely be part of the fuselage at the rear (see pic below) .The sail drive system on yachts with a folding prop would be perfect once you are going.(see 2nd pic).

If you were on a downwind board it would be very easy to carry battery's for a 2 run time.







DavidJohn
VIC, 17569 posts
5 Aug 2016 11:50AM
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www.facebook.com/alfred.dupont.5/videos/1061175207263153/

DavidJohn
VIC, 17569 posts
6 Aug 2016 8:58AM
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Piros said...
Like your thinking MarcCRider once you are up and riding on a downwind run you won't need the motor. The motor will definitely be part of the fuselage at the rear (see pic below) .The sail drive system on yachts with a folding prop would be perfect once you are going.(see 2nd pic).

If you were on a downwind board it would be very easy to carry battery's for a 2 run time.






Hey Rob.. Like this?


JacobMatan
WA, 431 posts
6 Aug 2016 12:38PM
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What's worse than out of control sup hydrofoils tearing through the lineup decapitating people with their death blades?

Jet powered out of control sup hydrofoils tearing through decapitating the lineup with their death blades !!!!

No just joking I actually think they could really be onto something here. You need to remember that this is just the very beginning and whilst the riding in this vid doesn't look amazing it won't be long before they have been adapted to riding in choppy open ocean conditions, carving, surfing and doing tricks. I could imagine this becoming its own recreational pursuit as opposed transport for another pursuit.

With the efficiency of the foil and using a large sup style board they should be able to carry enough battery power to make them a functional and fun mode of transport/ recreation. Just look at the popularity and the power of electric bikes- you could easily fit a similar battery in one of these and I imagine the foil would not need too much power to keep it moving. Standing on the board would give the rider the leverage to control the forward and aft pitch and the balance needed to take on swells and heavy chop And also make all sorts of carving, surfing and general shredding possible.

Under Western Australian marine laws ( can't say for certain for other states) these would be considered a registrable vessel ( any boat that has an engine or can be fitted with an engine other than a tender in WA must be registered) the operators of these crafts would be required to carry correct safety equipment and depending on the hp of the vessel also hold a skippers ticket. They would also be bound by marine laws relating to speed limits and safe distances from other water users such as swimmers and surfers. I imagine the government would class these as pwc's and regulate them in the same fashion. They could definitely be used in a dangerous manner if they got into the wrong hands but I don't think that will be an issue any time soon plus we already have the laws in place to deal with them.

Pretty bloody cool really and about the closest thing we've got to a hover-board so far

Piros
QLD, 7213 posts
6 Aug 2016 4:26PM
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Yeah that's it DJ good basic design , but this link you put up by Nick at DHL will be the game changer. www.facebook.com/alfred.dupont.5/videos/1061175207263153/

Super high performance motor and the the DHL Lift foil is one of the best in the world. I've known about this one for a while haven't actually seen it yet. That video was not supposed to be released (someone is in trouble , not you). GoPro are working with Nick on this one due to be released next month with a full professional video. Can't wait to see it in the flesh , it has an incredible run time.

SandS
VIC, 5904 posts
6 Aug 2016 8:46PM
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This belongs in a power boat / jet ski forum .

tha dogman
NSW, 2912 posts
9 Aug 2016 12:22PM
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teatrea said...
Reckon I'd get bored with that in about one hour.


I recon youd work out how to carve up the place teatreA.... Check it out!!!!
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maxeaus
NSW, 326 posts
9 Aug 2016 4:29PM
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Introducing.........The most hated water sport since........the guy on the SUP

colas
5364 posts
9 Aug 2016 2:52PM
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I dont find the post by DJ about the scubajet, www.kickstarter.com/projects/496246404/scubajet-worlds-first-flexible-water-sports-jet-en

but this could be quite fun added to a foilboard, and safe from propeller injuries. I asked them, it cuts off automatically once out of the water:

Patrizia Giovanniello says: Hi Colas, Yes, the motor stops automaticaly if it gets out of the water.
Its a great idea!! maybe it would be better adding the scubajet directly on the end of the foil and not on the board directly. So you also can use the motor power if the board is flying.

I am thinking just putting one (or 2?) scubajet on finboxes under the hull of the foil board. This way, you will just fire them as an assist for take-off on non-breaking waves, (the start button is on a wireless remote that can be attached to the paddle) away from any surfer and shallow reefs, and they will cut off once airborne to rely on your pumping and the wave energy. The battery should then be able to last for a long session.

Or just strap it underneath the foil for learning sessions.

teatrea
QLD, 4177 posts
9 Aug 2016 7:41PM
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Ha ha yeah , only down your neck of the woods , they say theirs a mad bastard down their that surfs couches so a electric foil board shouldn't raise an eyebrow

teatrea
QLD, 4177 posts
9 Aug 2016 7:45PM
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colas said..
I dont find the post by DJ about the scubajet, www.kickstarter.com/projects/496246404/scubajet-worlds-first-flexible-water-sports-jet-en

but this could be quite fun added to a foilboard, and safe from propeller injuries. I asked them, it cuts off automatically once out of the water:

Patrizia Giovanniello says: Hi Colas, Yes, the motor stops automaticaly if it gets out of the water.
Its a great idea!! maybe it would be better adding the scubajet directly on the end of the foil and not on the board directly. So you also can use the motor power if the board is flying.

I am thinking just putting one (or 2?) scubajet on finboxes under the hull of the foil board. This way, you will just fire them as an assist for take-off on non-breaking waves, (the start button is on a wireless remote that can be attached to the paddle) away from any surfer and shallow reefs, and they will cut off once airborne to rely on your pumping and the wave energy. The battery should then be able to last for a long session.

Or just strap it underneath the foil for learning sessions.



might whack that on in the next race I enter

SRrat
WA, 240 posts
9 Aug 2016 8:18PM
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colas said..
I dont find the post by DJ about the scubajet, www.kickstarter.com/projects/496246404/scubajet-worlds-first-flexible-water-sports-jet-en

but this could be quite fun added to a foilboard, and safe from propeller injuries. I asked them, it cuts off automatically once out of the water:

Patrizia Giovanniello says: Hi Colas, Yes, the motor stops automaticaly if it gets out of the water.
Its a great idea!! maybe it would be better adding the scubajet directly on the end of the foil and not on the board directly. So you also can use the motor power if the board is flying.

I am thinking just putting one (or 2?) scubajet on finboxes under the hull of the foil board. This way, you will just fire them as an assist for take-off on non-breaking waves, (the start button is on a wireless remote that can be attached to the paddle) away from any surfer and shallow reefs, and they will cut off once airborne to rely on your pumping and the wave energy. The battery should then be able to last for a long session.

Or just strap it underneath the foil for learning sessions.


Mmmmmmm



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