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Do surf foilers adjust their foil position depending on wave size?

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Created by thedoor > 9 months ago, 22 Feb 2022
thedoor
2469 posts
22 Feb 2022 12:28AM
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My experience windfoiling is that each foil has a track position that is ideal, depending on where I put my mast and foot straps. When wind picks up I change the sail but I do not move the foil position.

Is this the case for surf foiling? or are people moving their foil fore/aft in bigger surf?

frenchfoiler
505 posts
22 Feb 2022 12:45AM
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thedoor said..
My experience windfoiling is that each foil has a track position that is ideal, depending on where I put my mast and foot straps. When wind picks up I change the sail but I do not move the foil position.

Is this the case for surf foiling? or are people moving their foil fore/aft in bigger surf?


Smaller I usually put my foil far forward, bigger waves more at the back.

Hdip
465 posts
22 Feb 2022 1:07AM
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I sometimes move my mast an 1/8th of an inch towards the tail when it's overhead on the face. I usually regret doing that though. I am strapless on a 4'4" so usually I can just adjust my feet to fix that issue and it's easier than dealing with a new mast position.

I do move mast position based on the front wing I'm riding though. Each front wing has it's own sweet spot.

Piros
QLD, 7211 posts
22 Feb 2022 4:19AM
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Mast position stays the same I'm more likely to change the tails to smaller for larger waves or higher speeds.
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greg87foil
145 posts
22 Feb 2022 5:16AM
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Keep the same. Adjust front foil/tail wing.

eppo
WA, 9686 posts
22 Feb 2022 6:47AM
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If too lazy might drop it back, but normally just change front wing and leave as is.

hilly
WA, 7857 posts
22 Feb 2022 6:53AM
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If the balance is right leave it be. I only confuse myself (Which is not hard) if I move the mast around.

PeterP
873 posts
23 Feb 2022 3:37AM
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I also move my mast back a fraction when waves get a little bigger. When waves are small I try and optimize the weight distribution (SUP) so that it is optimal for pumping, when it's bigger I find moving the mast back gives me slightly more time to sort out my feet before the foil lifts during take-off. I only move it about 2cm.

On my wing board I rarely move it once I've found the optimal trim but board is smaller so there is less swing-weight.

kobo
NSW, 1107 posts
23 Feb 2022 9:42AM
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PeterP said..
I also move my mast back a fraction when waves get a little bigger. When waves are small I try and optimize the weight distribution (SUP) so that it is optimal for pumping, when it's bigger I find moving the mast back gives me slightly more time to sort out my feet before the foil lifts during take-off. I only move it about 2cm.

On my wing board I rarely move it once I've found the optimal trim but board is smaller so there is less swing-weight.


How is you DW journey going ? I remember you starting the process and curious what you have learned and where you're up to mate.

PeterP
873 posts
23 Feb 2022 1:31PM
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kobo said..

PeterP said..
I also move my mast back a fraction when waves get a little bigger. When waves are small I try and optimize the weight distribution (SUP) so that it is optimal for pumping, when it's bigger I find moving the mast back gives me slightly more time to sort out my feet before the foil lifts during take-off. I only move it about 2cm.

On my wing board I rarely move it once I've found the optimal trim but board is smaller so there is less swing-weight.



How is you DW journey going ? I remember you starting the process and curious what you have learned and where you're up to mate.


Haha - don't want to hijack thread, but in short - a lot of wing down-winging which is just easier than with a paddle. Have managed 10km without touching handles, as my best run to date, and the extended time on bumps, has motivated me to order a dwd specific SUP board. I still can't keep a Foil-SUP going the entire run. TOW (Time on Water), body-weight and gear is everything. Running out of years, so it's now or never.

kobo
NSW, 1107 posts
23 Feb 2022 5:27PM
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Mate sounds like good progression !



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