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An interesting new development from Axis!
Damn these guys bring out a lot of wings, they'll have to change from a catalogue to an encyclopedia!
Select to expand quoteeppo said..
Interesting the chopped tips. answer to the 925 armie etc maybe.
Yes, I think this is the way to make those foil more forgiven at low speed, no ??
id say it allows for tighter turning and also better tip breach control. That is - you can push it harder. Thats extrapolating from the armie chop shop community. Ive even know someone who has chopped their HA 1125 wing for this - crazy 
From what I hear the major difference is the low speed lift on this wing compared to the 925/1125. Owning both 925 + 1125 wings, low speed lift is not great, particularly when taking off with the 925 into a hardly breaking wave or a gutless wave - you can get lift and then bam dropped straight back to the water level and can't recover most times. Never had this problem with any other foil (I've used heaps). Doesn't happen often but it can happen.
For me the 999 looks like it would be the ultimate prone downwinding setup at my weight.
About time they kept up with other brands (Moses w1000 & Armstrong 1125/925) - too late though, I just sold my Axis setup!
Tips cut off = less drag, greater speedI imagine take off would be similar to aforementioned brands, unless it has a thicker profile. This would induce more lift but comes at the cost of top speed. To me that doesn't make sense as they have so many other foils that target that.
Select to expand quoteCygnify said..
From what I hear the major difference is the low speed lift on this wing compared to the 925/1125. Owning both 925 + 1125 wings, low speed lift is not great, particularly when taking off with the 925 into a hardly breaking wave or a gutless wave - you can get lift and then bam dropped straight back to the water level and can't recover most times. Never had this problem with any other foil (I've used heaps). Doesn't happen often but it can happen.
For me the 999 looks like it would be the ultimate prone downwinding setup at my weight.
As Matt Coast recently pointed out in the James Casey podcast, when you feel the wing at the brink of stalling out, try dropping your hips towards the board sorta slowly before slowly standing back up/pumping if you can can speed/lift in the foil. It tends to give the wing the right amount of force to keep it happy.
Think of it like this: long and skinny ones have less cushion for the pushin' while the low aspects have plenty.
Yep if you are gentle especially on the pump when going slow on the 1125 it's not really a problem
The main difference compared to Armstrong ha is that the 999 is much easier to use, requires less speed to lift. It also has an insane low stall speed, way less than Armstrong. However where Armstrong ha excels is stability at top speed (I'm talking about once you're over 20knots speed), the 999 keeps generating more lift which requires more front foot pressure. No doubt the smaller ART sizes will deal with this better. The 999 is just incredibly stable and accessible even for advanced beginners
Select to expand quotewaterlife said..
About time they kept up with other brands
Thats kind of an odd comment considering they were the first to market with HA wings. First with the 900 and 1000 then the PNG and HPS series now the ART. I don't think anyone could really accuse them of trying to keep up.
HA wings have a way better staff speed than I feared which has surprised me, the extra speed is addictive. Then the reality of riding a decent sized wave hits you. As it did the other day, scary fast and hard to turn. Maybe these are the unicorn 
Based on the feedback I've heard, it sounds like they're using a fair amount of washout in the wing. In theory, washout with that taper should make for an extremely gradual and forgiving stall along with great turning for the wingspan! Axis also uses a powerful profile that lets them get away with pretty short chord lengths for the stall speed, similar to Lift. The costs of this design would be top end speed but the efficiency and usability is so high that most people's average speed will improve. Great job Axis, love the design and cant wait to try one!
Select to expand quotehilly said..
HA wings have a way better staff speed than I feared which has surprised me, the extra speed is addictive. Then the reality of riding a decent sized wave hits you. As it did the other day, scary fast and hard to turn. Maybe these are the unicorn
I hope so I've got one coming??
I have Moses and now some HPS Axis.
The Axis area for area have much more lift than Moses.
Select to expand quotewarwickl said..
I have Moses and now some HPS Axis.
The Axis area for area have much more lift than Moses.
Do you have a w1000 ? How do they compare ? I was looking at getting one for that extra speed but now we have Axis ART, although a smaller one would be better up against the w1000.
Select to expand quoteAlysum said..warwickl said..
I have Moses and now some HPS Axis.
The Axis area for area have much more lift than Moses.
Do you have a w1000 ? How do they compare ? I was looking at getting one for that extra speed but now we have Axis ART, although a smaller one would be better up against the w1000.
I had the Moses 1000 however, for my use it was very limited so sold it. I found the 950 covered a bigger range of conditions and more user friendly.
I became a bit disillusioned with the 950 as winds became lighter as I had hoped it was1600 sq cm ( actual 1300) as initially promoted so moved it on.
Now for windwing I have Axis 930, 1050 and 1150.
The 1050 is an amazing light wind foil and I expect it to be my most used the other 2 filling in either side wind conditions.
Kitefoiling - I still use my Moses however expect the Axis 930 to be ok for very light wind.
Select to expand quotewarwickl said..Alysum said..warwickl said..
I have Moses and now some HPS Axis.
The Axis area for area have much more lift than Moses.
Do you have a w1000 ? How do they compare ? I was looking at getting one for that extra speed but now we have Axis ART, although a smaller one would be better up against the w1000.
I had the Moses 1000 however, for my use it was very limited so sold it. I found the 950 covered a bigger range of conditions and more user friendly.
I became a bit disillusioned with the 950 as winds became lighter as I had hoped it was1600 sq cm ( actual 1300) as initially promoted so moved it on.
Now for windwing I have Axis 930, 1050 and 1150.
The 1050 is an amazing light wind foil and I expect it to be my most used the other 2 filling in either side wind conditions.
Kitefoiling - I still use my Moses however expect the Axis 930 to be ok for very light wind.
Yeah my 1050 is a session saver, in fact I switched to it once the 999 couldn't get up anymore as the wind dropped
I keep hearing the w1000 needs constant strong winds to get going... Loving my HPS 880 (and now 830) for those windy days.
Looking forward to the smaller ART then I can get rid of the 880
PS: where would you place the Moses 950 vs HPS ?
Well I saw the 999 ART in the flesh today. Nathan AKA "foil Perth" was out prone foiling on it. He was pumping around endlessly, the wing looked very efficient and could turn quite well. Hard to tell if the wing was really good or its just because he's a highly skilled rider.
It sure is a radical shape, much less meat than a 980 hps which is already very slim. Very thin profile, straight and squared off tips, it does look quite different to anything I have seen before. Hopefully they need a 100kg sup foiler to test out its heavyweight abilities 
( hit me up)
I should be able to try the 999 soon. It will be interesting to compare with the Army 925.
I predict it will be easier to use, more front foot pressure, better stall speed and those cut of tips will make the carves easier to manage. It wont be as dynamic as the 925 which will require a higher proficiency to get the most out of it. 999 will be good for heavier riders given all things being equal.
let us know how you go!!!
999 is way closer to the 1125 then the 925. Like eppo said not as dynamic as the 925, but then you get the insane low speed lift on take off, effortless recovery when pumping (probably best foil I've ridden for this). Actually all of eppo's predictions are true.
I have only proned the 999 and mainly downwinding. For that is excellent. 925 is much more exciting for proning (at least at my weight), unless it was tiny and you wanted to pump like a mad man.
In regards to the low end stall speed can anyone who has ridden the new 999 make a comparison to other Axis wings??
Here's my post from the Zone:
This wing needs its own thread. The first batch just shipped so bring on the reviews.
I just had first session on it with carbon 86 mast, crazy short and 380 decently powered on a 4.5 Dart with a 80L 5' moon buddy.
Everything you have heard is true. Its effing magical! My first thought was about how lively this wing rides. It wants to carve and go fast and go slow and glide for miles. It was a little challenging to get it unstuck and onto foil. My 1050 gets up in less wind. I will agree with DW that it is comparable to the 980 in take off. The technique is similar where it needed proper hull speed before anything was even ready for liftoff. It is a very subtle pump to engage the foil. I was doing too much pumping and it didn't work. I think I will try my chopped down 400 to see if that helps with lift off. Anyway, once up it was amazing. The other big thing I noticed was how slippery it was through the water. Its was easier than ever on my body and arms because there was so little drag. The turning is very ankly and skateboardish. It felt loose on the yah and somewhat tight on the roll. Once I reigned in the pitch control, I was able to rip carves, slightly off wind like I never have before. Carves were solid and powerful. One thing that was a little freaky was that if I carved it really hard, it would get locked into that turn and it was reluctant to let me change sides. I will need a few more sessions to get it dialed. Wingtip breaches were not an issue. Jumping was good. I felt like it had a lot more pop than other HA wings. It came out of the water quick and easy. It re-enterd the water easily too. I luffed the wing out and could pump it as far as I wanted with 1/2 the effort or any other foils except for the 1150. I'm going to try the ultrashort with it and see if it smooths things out. Super stoked on it and will report more sessions as they come. Send it!!!!!!!
Haven't ridden the armie HA wings but the 999 is insanely good. Only prone riding with the Kane tail and it's different from any other axis wing. The chord is tiny and the camber is amazingly thin, which makes the wing extremely light. This translates to a lot of flex when riding. I'm 75kg and can feel the wing flex a ton while turning. It actually aids in the roll characteristics which is why the wing turns so well for its span. That said it requires a slightly different technique, especially for pumping. The roll instability (which is good for turning) is especially evident while pumping. Once you dial in the technique, it's amazing as you can feel the wing flex and flap like a bird while pumping. Amazingly efficient but completely different technique and feel from any of the HPS/BSC wings which don't flex. I can't wait for the smaller Art wings.
Select to expand quotebroVan said..
It felt loose on the yah and somewhat tight on the roll. Select to expand quoteshaka808 said..
The roll instability (which is good for turning)
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Select to expand quoteCamarillo said..broVan said..
It felt loose on the yah and somewhat tight on the roll.shaka808 said..
The roll instability (which is good for turning)
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Guessing the yaw looseness he experienced was due to a combination of the crazy short fuse and the tail he was on. I am using an ultra short fuse with the KD 14" tail. I only prone and do not like yaw as the tail slides too much when turning, especially when cranking connections. The KD tail has enough vertical profile that it does not slide or yaw like a flat tail.
The roll instability I was referring to was in relation to the 980. The 999 rolls over into turns much easier than the 980 (however not as well as my 810). I would also say it is easier to roll out of a turn in comparison to the 980, however due to its span it still requires time and planning like any large HA wing.
While pumping, the 999 wants to roll, whereas the 980 has much more roll stability. I attribute this to the flex, and it is controllable with a modified pump technique. With the 999 it is a slow push pump, wait for the wing tips to flex down and "flap" then repeat, it feels like a bird flapping its wings. It requires much less leg energy and covers significantly more distance per pump. I have much less back leg fatigue pumping this wing. l also only use the aluminum mast, as I do not like the flex of any carbon mast. I am really enjoying the flex characteristics of the 999 wing though.
The tips flex prolly 1cm with little pressure applied when static, so I can only imagine they are flexing a couple centimeters when loaded up at speed. Airplane wings will flex greater than 5% of their span in normal operation.
I think that what I was feeling when I got loaded up in turns was possibly the flex as it was loading the wing and changing shape/character in mid turn??? I think I can learn to use this new energy source. I was on the 86 carbon mast so, not sure if that contributed to the flexing. Its been going on in skiing and snowboarding and surfing for ages. I could see manufacturers building different flex profiles into the same wing. Like you can get the ART 999 in three different flexes. Same mold just different layup of materials.
1: Sickbird Flex- super hard charging and unforgivingly fast, possible titanium strap imbeded
2: Cruiser Flex- medium and goodish at everything, all arounder, divinicyl core
3: Skatepark Flex- loose and skatey, ideal for progressive freestyle moves. Load it up and ollie. Poplar core
Other than the 999 and maybe the 1150, I'm not sure I have ever thought about the foil itself flexing on any other front wings. This will play a big part in the design of these new breed of ultra efficient butter knives that are coming our way. Send it!!!!!
