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Armstrong 1200 cf

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Created by tomooh > 9 months ago, 10 Jan 2021
tomooh
276 posts
10 Jan 2021 9:42AM
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I have had the 1200 for nearly 2 years but never really used it while I had the 1600 and recently the 1550 then 1850 and 1250 wings. I was going to sell it and then yesterday thought I would take it out in some decent head high waves. The previous day I was on the 1250 in similar waves i rode 25 top speed 31 kms and probably had about 8 good crashes. On the 1200 I had 20 waves top speed 29 and only fell off once on the inside when I was trying to really push a turn. It felt really hard to breach. A couple of times I was really high where my hs wings would crash it just twitched and carried on. For me it feels like way more suited to solid waves than the 1250 and turns really well. I think if I sold it I would probably replace with the 1050 but that still may not be as easy to ride or as hard to crash as the 1200. I was on 85 mast 300 tail +1 shim and 85 kg. Haven't used the 1550 since I got the 1250 and 1850

kobo
NSW, 1107 posts
10 Jan 2021 3:15PM
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The 1050 will blow your mind, super fast and turns like nothing else........probs Armstrong's best wing.
The 1200 is a great wing too ,and suited to learners and intermediate ,wouldn't put a learner on the 1050

tomooh
276 posts
10 Jan 2021 2:24PM
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Yes probably thats why I wasn't falling off it. It suits my ability level.

hilly
WA, 7857 posts
10 Jan 2021 2:52PM
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Loved my 1200 but at 105 kg it dropped off quickly. The 1250 is my go to with 232 and 0 shim. Got solid waves the other day and it handled them with aplomb. Not as surfy as the 1200. Will get a 1050 for tow in.

kobo
NSW, 1107 posts
10 Jan 2021 6:54PM
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tomooh said..
Yes probably thats why I wasn't falling off it. It suits my ability level.


You can still make the 1200 faster and looser quiet a lot by using the 232 tail or the cut down 212 tail for more speed and turning performance as well as dropping to a 50 fuse instead of 60.So there is several performance steps that make a noticeable difference before needing to buy a 1050. I would try the tails first as they make a big difference and they are cheaper than 50 fuse.

tomooh
276 posts
10 Jan 2021 5:34PM
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Thanks I have the 232 tail as well so will try that next time.

eppo
WA, 9686 posts
10 Jan 2021 10:32PM
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I know someone that has gone back to his 1200 after using the 1250 for a while. There might be something in what you are saying in the waves. Can't beat the glide of the 1250 though damn that's a nice wing.

tomooh
276 posts
11 Jan 2021 2:46AM
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Yes most of the time I am riding a wave that backs off a lot and the 1250 keeps going better and further but on a decent wave the 1200 feels better for me. I actually prefer to not go so fast on the foil. At 30 km I don't really want to turn too much where as at 25 or 22 its a lot of fun. At 62 I don't expect to be Kai Lenny. Like surfboards the boards that the pros ride will not be the best board for most people.

kobo
NSW, 1107 posts
11 Jan 2021 8:30AM
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tomooh said..
Yes most of the time I am riding a wave that backs off a lot and the 1250 keeps going better and further but on a decent wave the 1200 feels better for me. I actually prefer to not go so fast on the foil. At 30 km I don't really want to turn too much where as at 25 or 22 its a lot of fun. At 62 I don't expect to be Kai Lenny. Like surfboards the boards that the pros ride will not be the best board for most people.


You are spot on , the 1200 is a nice smooth wing

Main
QLD, 2338 posts
20 Apr 2021 8:15PM
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tomooh said..
I have had the 1200 for nearly 2 years but never really used it while I had the 1600 and recently the 1550 then 1850 and 1250 wings. I was going to sell it and then yesterday thought I would take it out in some decent head high waves. The previous day I was on the 1250 in similar waves i rode 25 top speed 31 kms and probably had about 8 good crashes. On the 1200 I had 20 waves top speed 29 and only fell off once on the inside when I was trying to really push a turn. It felt really hard to breach. A couple of times I was really high where my hs wings would crash it just twitched and carried on. For me it feels like way more suited to solid waves than the 1250 and turns really well. I think if I sold it I would probably replace with the 1050 but that still may not be as easy to ride or as hard to crash as the 1200. I was on 85 mast 300 tail +1 shim and 85 kg. Haven't used the 1550 since I got the 1250 and 1850


I've started riding my 1200 again and prefer it to the 1250. I've been prone and tow surfing it and am blown away by how surfable it is after suffering constant breaches on the 1250...(especially doing cutbacks at speed).

hilly
WA, 7857 posts
20 Apr 2021 11:01PM
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Chopped the 1250 and it glides forever plus turns almost as well as the 1050. Feckn awesome

tomooh
276 posts
21 Apr 2021 4:58AM
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Yes since chopping my 1250 it is way better and harder to crash

Mr Soft Serve
NSW, 53 posts
30 Jul 2021 1:12AM
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The CF1200 is an awesome wing.I have been using it with the A+ set up 232 tail No shim 60 fuse. Been prone foiling from 1.5 feet to 6 feet. I'm am 93kgs and every one loves the HS 1050 wing but must guys foiling on them are around 75 to 80 kgs so the CF 1200 wing being a little heavier is spot on.

eppo
WA, 9686 posts
30 Jul 2021 6:26AM
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How does the 1200 Go at pumping and linking on a prone board because I'm allergic to paddling back out now!

Mr Soft Serve
NSW, 53 posts
31 Jul 2021 1:10AM
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How does the 1200 Go at pumping and linking on a prone board because I'm allergic to paddling back out now!


If you exit with speed you can link the next wave or maybe the one after ??. But what you lose in pump it definitely gaine in carve ??

Mr Soft Serve
NSW, 53 posts
31 Jul 2021 1:12AM
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How does the 1200 Go at pumping and linking on a prone board because I'm allergic to paddling back out now!


If you exit with speed you can link the next wave or maybe the one after ??. But what you lose in pump it definitely gaine in carve ??

tomooh
276 posts
31 Jul 2021 1:45PM
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Just had a surf on the 1200 again after the last 6 months on the 1050 and 1250. It felt really good very reliable and good turns. Could be my favourite wing.

Main
QLD, 2338 posts
31 Jul 2021 3:48PM
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Mr Soft Serve said..
The CF1200 is an awesome wing.I have been using it with the A+ set up 232 tail No shim 60 fuse. Been prone foiling from 1.5 feet to 6 feet. I'm am 93kgs and every one loves the HS 1050 wing but must guys foiling on them are around 75 to 80 kgs so the CF 1200 wing being a little heavier is spot on.


For me the best wing of the range for prone surfing whatever size wave. Add the Flying V tail and it's even better !

Mr Soft Serve
NSW, 53 posts
4 Aug 2021 4:48AM
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Main said..

Mr Soft Serve said..
The CF1200 is an awesome wing.I have been using it with the A+ set up 232 tail No shim 60 fuse. Been prone foiling from 1.5 feet to 6 feet. I'm am 93kgs and every one loves the HS 1050 wing but must guys foiling on them are around 75 to 80 kgs so the CF 1200 wing being a little heavier is spot on.



For me the best wing of the range for prone surfing whatever size wave. Add the Flying V tail and it's even better !

I have tried it once before and wasn't a fan. But I will try it out one more time and double check ????

Leighbreeze
WA, 556 posts
17 Aug 2021 8:38AM
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Chopped the 1250 and it glides forever plus turns almost as well as the 1050. Feckn awesome


So Hilly & Tom what was the amount you chopped the 1250 any photo,cheers

hilly
WA, 7857 posts
17 Aug 2021 12:41PM
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Sky Rama does a good vid on it using a can to get the right curve. I did 18mm. Below is 1550 but same same.


Leighbreeze
WA, 556 posts
17 Aug 2021 1:57PM
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hilly said..
Sky Rama does a good vid on it using a can to get the right curve. I did 18mm. Below is 1550 but same same.



Ok thanks, so 18mm less on both ends on the 1250 and or the 1550V2.Will check Sky Rama.

hilly
WA, 7857 posts
17 Aug 2021 2:02PM
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Leighbreeze said..Ok thanks, so 18mm less on both ends on the 1250 and or the 1550V2.Will check Sky Rama.

18 to 30mm people have used. I would start at 18mm and see how you go.

Leighbreeze
WA, 556 posts
17 Aug 2021 7:52PM
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Leighbreeze said..Ok thanks, so 18mm less on both ends on the 1250 and or the 1550V2.Will check Sky Rama.


18 to 30mm people have used. I would start at 18mm and see how you go.

Ok will go 18mm on 1250.
Really like for kite foiling CF1200,300,60fuse0 shim,100mast.1250 I have issues with but just me.
Until I read all ya posts.
Have a spare 1550 V1 thinking chop 18mm?

hilly
WA, 7857 posts
17 Aug 2021 8:50PM
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Leighbreeze said..

hilly said..


Leighbreeze said..Ok thanks, so 18mm less on both ends on the 1250 and or the 1550V2.Will check Sky Rama.



18 to 30mm people have used. I would start at 18mm and see how you go.


Ok will go 18mm on 1250.
Really like for kite foiling CF1200,300,60fuse0 shim,100mast.1250 I have issues with but just me.
Until I read all ya posts.
Have a spare 1550 V1 thinking chop 18mm?y


No do not cut down the lower aspect wings.

Leighbreeze
WA, 556 posts
18 Aug 2021 5:50AM
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hilly said..

Leighbreeze said..


hilly said..



Leighbreeze said..Ok thanks, so 18mm less on both ends on the 1250 and or the 1550V2.Will check Sky Rama.




18 to 30mm people have used. I would start at 18mm and see how you go.



Ok will go 18mm on 1250.
Really like for kite foiling CF1200,300,60fuse0 shim,100mast.1250 I have issues with but just me.
Until I read all ya posts.
Have a spare 1550 V1 thinking chop 18mm?y



No do not cut down the lower aspect wings.


Ok only HS cheers



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