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What is meant by made by?

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Created by Isbjorn > 9 months ago, 7 Apr 2020
Isbjorn
36 posts
7 Apr 2020 4:12PM
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Hi all
probably not the best time to be looking for a boat but I'm looking lol. I don't understand when a boat is made by two different companies. The two Defiance 30s here appear to be made by different companies. Are they the same design?
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yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/sparkman-stephens-30-defiance/242417



www.boatsales.com.au/boats/details/defiance-30-1972/oag-ad-18617791/

r13
NSW, 1714 posts
7 Apr 2020 7:58PM
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Probably. The hull and deck moulds presumably changed hands to different companies. Lydia will know who had these moulds over the build life of the Defiance 30.

Isbjorn
36 posts
7 Apr 2020 6:02PM
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Thank you

SandS
VIC, 5904 posts
7 Apr 2020 9:16PM
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curluw is a later version built in coffs harbour likely in vinalester resin . the molds ended up there somewhere.

the second one is built in melbourne by savage , the original designer, he tweaked an S&S design . these boats sail beautifully !

r13
NSW, 1714 posts
7 Apr 2020 10:27PM
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Excuse me but Savage wasn't the original designer of the Defiance 30. See prior forum entries here - SandS and Lydia contributing. Jack Savage did a similar boat Pajen..................

www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Sailing/General/S-S-Defiance-30-Plans-Specifications?page=1

Isbjorn
36 posts
8 Apr 2020 4:54AM
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Ok so if I'm following this correctly you are all saying that the defiance is a model made by various manufacturers?

boty
QLD, 685 posts
8 Apr 2020 7:17AM
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the original boat designed by s&s was defiance the one owned by lydia built out of cold molded timber by doug booker a masterpiece in design and construction . there are several builders of the grp defiance boats these were also designed by s&s but to an altered design to allow for the heavier form of construction they still retain some of the performance of the original optimized ior design a quite good pocket cruiser racer with reasonable performance and surprising amount of interior space

Ramona
NSW, 7738 posts
8 Apr 2020 8:14AM
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Curlew would be worth the extra money.

SandS
VIC, 5904 posts
8 Apr 2020 8:25PM
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r13 said..
Excuse me but Savage wasn't the original designer of the Defiance 30. See prior forum entries here - SandS and Lydia contributing. Jack Savage did a similar boat Pajen..................

www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Sailing/General/S-S-Defiance-30-Plans-Specifications?page=1


savage designed and built the first GRP defiance 30 then it went to northern Australia somewhere , some like culew came out of coffs habour lighter weight ant some 2 foot taller rig .

r13
NSW, 1714 posts
8 Apr 2020 10:11PM
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philyeomans.com/tag/defiance/

r13
NSW, 1714 posts
8 Apr 2020 10:20PM
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www.adelaideboatsales.com.au/boat/237251/sparkman-stephens-defiance-immaculate/

Builder Anything Boating Coffs Harbour............can't find them on google now...............



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