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VHF stuck on CH 73

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Created by saintpeter > 9 months ago, 27 Oct 2017
saintpeter
VIC, 125 posts
27 Oct 2017 10:11PM
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My Icom IC-M402 has developed a bad habit of "sticking" on CH 73 when it should be scanning. Doesn't stick on CH 16, 12 or 72. Altering squelch does not fix it. On 73, it produces white noise, similar to low squelch in normal ops. Any thoughts from the tech department??

nebbian
WA, 6277 posts
28 Oct 2017 1:20AM
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Does it still do it when EVERYTHING else on the boat is switched off?

You may have something that's electrically noisy (laptop, tablet, charger, inverter, etc) that might be hitting that frequency with some interference. Hence the scanner stops at that channel.

Also does the scanner have a way to mute that channel (ie exclude it from the scan)?

Bruski068
VIC, 457 posts
28 Oct 2017 9:37AM
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It is also possible that a repeater station in your area is using this same frequency, thereby stopping the search function from continuing to cycle through.

Trek
NSW, 1195 posts
28 Oct 2017 1:12PM
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Unplug the antenna and see if it still does it. That will tell you if the bug is in the radio or an actual signal.

saintpeter
VIC, 125 posts
28 Oct 2017 10:14PM
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nebbian said..
Does it still do it when EVERYTHING else on the boat is switched off?

You may have something that's electrically noisy (laptop, tablet, charger, inverter, etc) that might be hitting that frequency with some interference. Hence the scanner stops at that channel.




When in dock, nothing else except solar controller. Will think more about ruling out other boat sources of RF signal. Does it both inside Queenscliff marina and out in PPB.

Also, thanks Trek. Difficult to unplug antenna, as radio is fully mounted, but will give it thought. Bruski, I don't think CH 73 is repeated. My info is that repeaters are on 21, 22, 80, 81, 82.

Trek
NSW, 1195 posts
29 Oct 2017 7:32AM
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Another simple diagnostic test might be to buy yourself a hand held marine VHF which are very handy as a backup and see if it does it too. If yes then you probably do have a stray signal.

LIke nebbian said theres heaps of interference sources these days because of switching voltage regulators, they are even in some LED nav lights and probably in your solar regulator if its an MPPT type. In theory they should meet a standard where RF emissions are so low they dont effect radios but no one tests them I knew someone whos radio got noise across all channels and it was from a new masthead light with a switching voltage regulator in it.

nebbian
WA, 6277 posts
29 Oct 2017 10:09PM
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Trek said..
Unplug the antenna and see if it still does it. That will tell you if the bug is in the radio or an actual signal.


It's possible that the interference is not coming in via the antenna, I don't want to get into superheterodyne theory but it is possible to have interference coming in through other means than the antenna, it doesn't have to be at the frequency that the scanner is stopping at either. The way I'd test would be to turn EVERYTHING else off (possibly even just power the radio via a handheld battery if it's not easy to turn everything else off) and see what happens.

Trek
NSW, 1195 posts
30 Oct 2017 11:48AM
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If the interference is not coming in through the antenna, which can be proven by unplugging it, then there is a fault in the radio.

The receiver should only be detecting signals detected from the antenna plugged into the antenna socket. If a signal gets in any other way or is internally generated there is a fault in the radio or at best a poor design. Superheterodyne or not.

saintpeter
VIC, 125 posts
13 Nov 2017 9:27PM
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Found the source of the problem. It only happens in Queenscliff Harbour, and disappeared once outside in PPB. Ops normal at sea - so all good again. I even just received Tasmanian base station announcing weather broadcast on Ch 16.



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