V Drive and Shaft seal maintenance

Doing the annual maintenance, and realized i've forgotten about the V drive oil and shaft seal.

i can't find any brands of either in the documentation nor any part/model numbers on either units.
Does anyone recognise either, and can suggest maintenance?

The V drive has a little tap on the lower right side for draining oil, however no dip stick for level check so don't know how much or what type of oil to put in it.
Oil filling point is a little bowl on side with a spring hinged cap.

Shaft seal- I haven't taken the boot off, as not sure what's underneath. Doesn't leak/dip, but surely need grease or something. Doesn't look big enough for gland packing.

Any advice or tips appreciated

Cheers

Hi Ramona

i am a bit confused by your post

the shaft seal to me appears to be a Volvo type which I thought was a double lip seal but earlier in the post you mentioned a ceramic seal

Regards Don

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Ramona said..

Donk107 said..
Hi Ramona

i am a bit confused by your post

the shaft seal to me appears to be a Volvo type which I thought was a double lip seal but earlier in the post you mentioned a ceramic seal

Regards Don

Some of the seals have a ceramic disc or plate that keeps the water out. I wrote that then noticed the picture is the same seal I have. From this article, it states the Volvo is just rubber seal and is supposed to have grease! I've not used grease in the last 8 years or so.
www.pbo.co.uk/gear/dripless-shaft-seals-pbo-buyers-guide-17357

Yep those seals need the special rubber grease . when out of the water... grab the sides and squeeze upwards. then push about 1/4 of a flat tee spoon amount in .... and importantly when back in the water ,before starting the engine , the seal must be " burped" squeeze the sides and pull up slightly , to get the air out of the seal , a small amount of water will come in after the air rushes out . Then it will be good .

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SandS said..

Ramona said..

Donk107 said..
Hi Ramona

i am a bit confused by your post

the shaft seal to me appears to be a Volvo type which I thought was a double lip seal but earlier in the post you mentioned a ceramic seal

Regards Don

Some of the seals have a ceramic disc or plate that keeps the water out. I wrote that then noticed the picture is the same seal I have. From this article, it states the Volvo is just rubber seal and is supposed to have grease! I've not used grease in the last 8 years or so.
www.pbo.co.uk/gear/dripless-shaft-seals-pbo-buyers-guide-17357

Yep those seals need the special rubber grease . when out of the water... grab the sides and squeeze upwards. then push about 1/4 of a flat tee spoon amount in .... and importantly when back in the water ,before starting the engine , the seal must be " burped" squeeze the sides and pull up slightly , to get the air out of the seal , a small amount of water will come in after the air rushes out . Then it will be good .

I know the routine. Every time I go off the slips I should grease and burp the unit but it never happens. The boat hits the water, it's always windy and the tide is pushing the boat sideways and there is always a rush from the slip operator! They are supposed to be replaced every 7 years or so. Mine must be well over ten years old and is perfect.

I have a face seal that needs to be burped when it goes back in and I do it when it goes back into the water while still tied to the cradle so wind is not a issue and if it keeps leaking for any reason it can come out again

Regards Don

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SandS said..

Donk107 said..
I have a face seal that needs to be burped when it goes back in and I do it when it goes back into the water while still tied to the cradle so wind is not a issue and if it keeps leaking for any reason it can come out again

Regards Don

yep that is the ideal method .

That is usually standard practice for a travel lift operator ,,,, "Go check for leaks and that you have water flowing through the engine before we let you go"

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SandS said..

Jolene said..

SandS said..

Donk107 said..
I have a face seal that needs to be burped when it goes back in and I do it when it goes back into the water while still tied to the cradle so wind is not a issue and if it keeps leaking for any reason it can come out again

Regards Don

yep that is the ideal method .

That is usually standard practice for a travel lift operator ,,,, "Go check for leaks and that you have water flowing through the engine before we let you go"

Yes , not a time to be rushed into anything

I agree

On our yacht club slip and the ship lift at the marina the skipper on the boat tells the operator when they are ready to let go not the other way around

Regards Don

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troubadour said..

SandS said..

Ramona said..

Donk107 said..
Hi Ramona

i am a bit confused by your post

the shaft seal to me appears to be a Volvo type which I thought was a double lip seal but earlier in the post you mentioned a ceramic seal

Regards Don

Some of the seals have a ceramic disc or plate that keeps the water out. I wrote that then noticed the picture is the same seal I have. From this article, it states the Volvo is just rubber seal and is supposed to have grease! I've not used grease in the last 8 years or so.
www.pbo.co.uk/gear/dripless-shaft-seals-pbo-buyers-guide-17357

Yep those seals need the special rubber grease . when out of the water... grab the sides and squeeze upwards. then push about 1/4 of a flat tee spoon amount in .... and importantly when back in the water ,before starting the engine , the seal must be " burped" squeeze the sides and pull up slightly , to get the air out of the seal , a small amount of water will come in after the air rushes out . Then it will be good .

Have you tried to access the shaft seal on a Cav 28 when you are 6'+ and 90kg? Plus you need gorilla grip hands to squeeze the rubber and squeeze the goo in all at once.

Not a cav 28 , but im sure the defiance 30 at 6' and 105kg and the wrong side of 60 years is equivalent . Who was it that said life wasn't meant to be easy ? You will work it out ,where there's a will there's way.

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AzureF305 said..
I always thought where there's a will there's a line of debtors

boom tish !!

Their is an actual Volvo rubber grease . I can't search properly on this device , but if I remember in the next couple of days I will look for it