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Used ST 20 winch wanted

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Created by Cockpit > 9 months ago, 30 Dec 2019
Cockpit
156 posts
30 Dec 2019 2:02PM
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I'm looking to change my Barlow 20 non self tailing winch for a self tailing type to help with raising the main.
If anyone has a decent second hand winch with a ST they don't need and is reasonably priced please let me know.

And where would I buy a couple of new rope bags, I looked on whitworths and they are around $70 ish but are a more solid type? I just want to replace my standard mesh ones with something cheaper than that.

Cheers

Ramona
NSW, 7738 posts
30 Dec 2019 6:28PM
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Cockpit said..
I'm looking to change my Barlow 20 non self tailing winch for a self tailing type to help with raising the main.
If anyone has a decent second hand winch with a ST they don't need and is reasonably priced please let me know.

And where would I buy a couple of new rope bags, I looked on whitworths and they are around $70 ish but are a more solid type? I just want to replace my standard mesh ones with something cheaper than that.

Cheers


If you need help raising the main converting to a self tailer won't make any difference. Might be better to make an electric snubbing winch to do all the work and cleat off with a conventional black nylon deck cleat.

Cockpit
156 posts
30 Dec 2019 7:10PM
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It's not that I need help really it's just that my wife usually raises it and I tail for her while she winches it tight. It would just be easier if she could use a self tailer and then we've not got the halyard strung out across the cockpit to me as I'm steering.
But now I'm thinking that the halyard would be much higher when in the tailer as now it's low on the winch and cleated off...

Donk107
TAS, 2446 posts
30 Dec 2019 11:29PM
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Hi Cockpit

The position of the halyard should not really change because the halyard will still wind around the winch from the bottom to the top of the winch drum before going into the self tailer

Normally the halyard would go through a clutch in front of the winch so it can be locked off and taken off the winch once it is tensioned so the winch can be freed up for other uses

Regards Don

Ramona
NSW, 7738 posts
31 Dec 2019 8:08AM
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It's not that I need help really it's just that my wife usually raises it and I tail for her while she winches it tight. It would just be easier if she could use a self tailer and then we've not got the halyard strung out across the cockpit to me as I'm steering.
But now I'm thinking that the halyard would be much higher when in the tailer as now it's low on the winch and cleated off...


With an electric snubbing winch your wife could just switch it on, take 3 or 4 turns and tail the halyard with both hands, hand over hand till full height. Then ease the pressure and let the halyard slide over the drum while jamming the rope in the clutch. Turn off the electric winch, tighten the turns on the drum and tail off to a cleat behind the winch. Tension up the Cunninham eye with the other winch.
There should be no need for you to even put down your cup of coffee!

Cockpit
156 posts
31 Dec 2019 5:15AM
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Donk107 said..
Hi Cockpit

The position of the halyard should not really change because the halyard will still wind around the winch from the bottom to the top of the winch drum before going into the self tailer

Normally the halyard would go through a clutch in front of the winch so it can be locked off and taken off the winch once it is tensioned so the winch can be freed up for other uses

Regards Don


H Don,
Yes, that's true thanks for that.

Cockpit
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31 Dec 2019 5:21AM
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Ramona said..

Cockpit said..
It's not that I need help really it's just that my wife usually raises it and I tail for her while she winches it tight. It would just be easier if she could use a self tailer and then we've not got the halyard strung out across the cockpit to me as I'm steering.
But now I'm thinking that the halyard would be much higher when in the tailer as now it's low on the winch and cleated off...



With an electric snubbing winch your wife could just switch it on, take 3 or 4 turns and tail the halyard with both hands, hand over hand till full height. Then ease the pressure and let the halyard slide over the drum while jamming the rope in the clutch. Turn off the electric winch, tighten the turns on the drum and tail off to a cleat behind the winch. Tension up the Cunninham eye with the other winch.
There should be no need for you to even put down your cup of coffee!


Thanks for that Ramona, it sounds great but it's a bit more work and expense than I want to spend on the old girl.
I think a manual ST would do what I want without too much expense if I can get a second hand one as new ones seem to start at around $600.
Your idea is appreciated though, cheers



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