Hi guys. I'm new to keel boats, have been sailing dinghy for last 10 yrs. I'm not quite a racing guy at the moment, more want to cruising now. my aim is to start with a smaller yacht in the next 5 years, mainly for weekends with my young family. I come across this Triton (John Alsop, I feel he is very interesting guy, pilot, designing yacht as well, but I think two things are pretty similar, air dynamics physics), I saw 24 and 721, but did this Triton come with 28feet? Could not find any information about John alsop Triton 28. Only information online I could see is American long keel Triton 28.
any information about this Alsop Triton 28? Pons and cons? thanks in advance.
Yep, there was a Triton 28 by Alsop; very much a big Triton 24 but not as bulky in proportion. I've never sailed one but it's not a bad boat, from what I understand. She'll be a bit of a hassle as far as headsails go, in that she will rely on having a big one for her speed and handling, but that's almost universal amongst boats of that era. She should be as simple and tough as an old boot.
Yes the Alsop Triton 28 is a very honest boat - see an example here;
yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/triton-28/238267
The American Pearson Triton is a completely different boat; designed by Carl Alberg in 1958 and a long keeler as you say - expect none of these are for sale here. If they were I wouldn't suggest buying one now but that may be a harsh comment so I stand to be corrected.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pearson_Triton
sailboatdata.com/sailboat/triton-pearson
Obviously subject to survey or your own inspections an Alsop Triton 28 should be very strong as per Chris - and when sailed with no3 jib and full main should be very easily handled by your young family for weekend cruising. Of course in light winds by all means set the bigger genoas as long as the wind is not forecast to come in. They are not a tippy boat so don't take this the wrong way - just that so many people go out with too much sail and needlessly spoil their day............
Yes good effort by the designer to be a pilot and yacht designer but obviously there are very significant differences between the physics of air dynamics and water dynamics..........air does not have a free surface and waves like the ocean, it is a 3 dimensional medium......of course both have upset load cases to design for..............
Select to expand quoteChris 249 said..
Yep, there was a Triton 28 by Alsop; very much a big Triton 24 but not as bulky in proportion. I've never sailed one but it's not a bad boat, from what I understand. She'll be a bit of a hassle as far as headsails go, in that she will rely on having a big one for her speed and handling, but that's almost universal amongst boats of that era. She should be as simple and tough as an old boot.
Hi Chris, thanks very much for the confirmation. I'm not a native English speaker, so sometimes I'm bit slow. what exactly do you mean "She'll be a bit of a hassle as far as headsails go, in that she will rely on having a big one for her speed and handling" many thanks.
Select to expand quoter13 said..
Yes the Alsop Triton 28 is a very honest boat - see an example here;
yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/triton-28/238267
The American Pearson Triton is a completely different boat; designed by Carl Alberg in 1958 and a long keeler as you say - expect none of these are for sale here. If they were I wouldn't suggest buying one now but that may be a harsh comment so I stand to be corrected.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pearson_Triton
sailboatdata.com/sailboat/triton-pearson
Obviously subject to survey or your own inspections an Alsop Triton 28 should be very strong as per Chris - and when sailed with no3 jib and full main should be very easily handled by your young family for weekend cruising. Of course in light winds by all means set the bigger genoas as long as the wind is not forecast to come in. They are not a tippy boat so don't take this the wrong way - just that so many people go out with too much sail and needlessly spoil their day............
Yes good effort by the designer to be a pilot and yacht designer but obviously there are very significant differences between the physics of air dynamics and water dynamics..........air does not have a free surface and waves like the ocean, it is a 3 dimensional medium......of course both have upset load cases to design for..............
"They are not a tippy boat so don't take this the wrong way - just that so many people go out with too much sail and needlessly spoil their day............"
Thanks R13, so you suggest to use smaller head sails for comfort ride? Am I right, I did not use English until I was 25, and my mother tongue is very different from English. So sometimes I don't understand the meanings well enough.
Select to expand quoteZDQ said..Chris 249 said..
Yep, there was a Triton 28 by Alsop; very much a big Triton 24 but not as bulky in proportion. I've never sailed one but it's not a bad boat, from what I understand. She'll be a bit of a hassle as far as headsails go, in that she will rely on having a big one for her speed and handling, but that's almost universal amongst boats of that era. She should be as simple and tough as an old boot.
Hi Chris, thanks very much for the confirmation. I'm not a native English speaker, so sometimes I'm bit slow. what exactly do you mean "She'll be a bit of a hassle as far as headsails go, in that she will rely on having a big one for her speed and handling" many thanks.
Cheers
What I meant was that because of the handicap systems, technology and philosophy of her time, she has a small mainsail and is designed to use big overlapping genoas in light to medium winds. The big headsails are more of a chore to tack than the small headsails of a more modern boat. Obviously you can use a roller furler headsail but they are not as effective when partially reefed.
As r13 points out, you can just use the smaller headsail most of the time and just accept that she won't be able to sail as fast in light winds, and sometimes in very light winds it may be hard to get the boat to sail well.
It's an issue that is almost universal among boats of that age. That era of boats had lots of other advantages to compensate - they are generally very strong and handle well unless they are raced very hard downwind in strong winds.
Your English is great, by the way!
Select to expand quoteChris 249 said..ZDQ said..Chris 249 said..
Yep, there was a Triton 28 by Alsop; very much a big Triton 24 but not as bulky in proportion. I've never sailed one but it's not a bad boat, from what I understand. She'll be a bit of a hassle as far as headsails go, in that she will rely on having a big one for her speed and handling, but that's almost universal amongst boats of that era. She should be as simple and tough as an old boot.
Hi Chris, thanks very much for the confirmation. I'm not a native English speaker, so sometimes I'm bit slow. what exactly do you mean "She'll be a bit of a hassle as far as headsails go, in that she will rely on having a big one for her speed and handling" many thanks.
Cheers
What I meant was that because of the handicap systems, technology and philosophy of her time, she has a small mainsail and is designed to use big overlapping genoas in light to medium winds. The big headsails are more of a chore to tack than the small headsails of a more modern boat. Obviously you can use a roller furler headsail but they are not as effective when partially reefed.
As r13 points out, you can just use the smaller headsail most of the time and just accept that she won't be able to sail as fast in light winds, and sometimes in very light winds it may be hard to get the boat to sail well.
It's an issue that is almost universal among boats of that age. That era of boats had lots of other advantages to compensate - they are generally very strong and handle well unless they are raced very hard downwind in strong winds.
Your English is great, by the way!
So many thanks to you Chris, now I understand it. And I'm happy with small headsail, and I'm not a racing person for now anyway, and more want to have a relaxing ride with my family. Thanks again Chris. Good weekend.
There's a guy currently sailing around the world on a westerly route who sailed a Triton 24 around Cape Horn in the late 70's or early 80's I think. Broke the rudder and still managed to make the Faulklands. Don't envy him with either of those feats, amazing as they are!
great SV the triton 28, there weren't many made, so snap it up, if its in good condition .
Select to expand quoteSandS said..
great SV the triton 28, there weren't many made, so snap it up, if its in good condition .
thanks SandS, I still need to do plenty of work on my wife, she is still not 100% agrees, she wants to buy sailboat next next year. 
Yes just use the smaller head sails for a comfortable and more relaxing ride - particularly in the first few sailing days to get to know the feel of the boat - like most yachts do it is suggested to write up a list of wind strength ranges and sails to be set for that range. For example with the Alsop T28 with full hoist mainsail set (no mainsails reefs) the no1 genoa could go to (say) 10knots true wind, the no2 to 18knots, the no3 to 25knots. After that the mainsail would need a reef. These numbers are very approximate and just to show the plan. For sure before each time you go out check the wind forecast on one of the many reputable sites - eg this one or willyweather which has the local area search function not just for Sydney - and if the forecast is light go for the bigger head sails. As Chris advises if you sail with the no3 jib in light winds it will be not be fast and maybe very frustrating / annoying to be sort of bobbing up and down and not going anywhere fast so don't overdo the small head sails bit. Like others above have said it seems like the Alsop Triton 28 is a perfect fit for your needs at the moment - hope the plan works out. With your dinghy experience you will go into the T28 like a duck to water. What class of dinghy have you been sailing? Yes your English is great.
Select to expand quoter13 said..
Yes just use the smaller head sails for a comfortable and more relaxing ride - particularly in the first few sailing days to get to know the feel of the boat - like most yachts do it is suggested to write up a list of wind strength ranges and sails to be set for that range. For example with the Alsop T28 with full hoist mainsail set (no mainsails reefs) the no1 genoa could go to (say) 10knots true wind, the no2 to 18knots, the no3 to 25knots. After that the mainsail would need a reef. These numbers are very approximate and just to show the plan. For sure before each time you go out check the wind forecast on one of the many reputable sites - eg this one or willyweather which has the local area search function not just for Sydney - and if the forecast is light go for the bigger head sails. As Chris advises if you sail with the no3 jib in light winds it will be not be fast and maybe very frustrating / annoying to be sort of bobbing up and down and not going anywhere fast so don't overdo the small head sails bit. Like others above have said it seems like the Alsop Triton 28 is a perfect fit for your needs at the moment - hope the plan works out. With your dinghy experience you will go into the T28 like a duck to water. What class of dinghy have you been sailing? Yes your English is great.
Hi r13, thanks very much for the detailed explanation. It's all making sense to me now. I'm really happy. I always sail the Feva dinghy, just myself, used to have a buddy doing with me in the beginning, but he left for Europe. I wanted to use club's 420, but think it's bit two big for a single person. So I'm still sailing with Feva , love sailing so much, I can sail about 4 hours non stop in winter time when the wind is more consistent. I'm about to introduce my daughter to sailing this summer, excited.
