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Transfer of mooring Sydney Harbour

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Created by pendoblue > 9 months ago, 30 Oct 2019
pendoblue
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30 Oct 2019 10:08AM
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I have an offer to buy a mooring in Morrison Bay from a yacht owner moving his boat to Lake Macquarie. According to RMS I have to buy the registered boat currently on that mooring for a transfer to be successful.
There is currently no waiting list for this area.
Is there a way around this so I can moor my yacht on this mooring.
Appreciate any help.
Peter

UncleBob
NSW, 1302 posts
30 Oct 2019 3:25PM
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pendoblue said..
I have an offer to buy a mooring in Morrison Bay from a yacht owner moving his boat to Lake Macquarie. According to RMS I have to buy the registered boat currently on that mooring for a transfer to be successful.
There is currently no waiting list for this area.
Is there a way around this so I can moor my yacht on this mooring.
Appreciate any help.
Peter


If they need you to buy the yacht, do so, transfer the mooring, sell the yacht back to the original owner and have the mooring assigned to your "new" yacht. Silly I know but sometimes you have to play the game to satisfy the bureaucrats. (surprising what you can buy and sell for ten bucks )

pendoblue
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30 Oct 2019 12:46PM
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pendoblue said..
I have an offer to buy a mooring in Morrison Bay from a yacht owner moving his boat to Lake Macquarie. According to RMS I have to buy the registered boat currently on that mooring for a transfer to be successful.
There is currently no waiting list for this area.
Is there a way around this so I can moor my yacht on this mooring.
Appreciate any help.
Peter



If they need you to buy the yacht, do so, transfer the mooring, sell the yacht back to the original owner and have the mooring assigned to your "new" yacht. Silly I know but sometimes you have to play the game to satisfy the bureaucrats. (surprising what you can buy and sell for ten bucks )


Yeah thanks for that advice. I didn't think of that. Cheers

Lazzz
NSW, 910 posts
30 Oct 2019 4:34PM
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Have you approached the local BSO? Sometimes they are very helpful & can help if you explain the story.

Others aren't so helpful!!

Yara
NSW, 1314 posts
30 Oct 2019 4:51PM
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If there is no waiting list, wait until the current occupier moves his boat, and relinquishes his mooring licence, then you can put in an application for his spot. The mooring apparatus is what he is selling you, and if he relinquishes the licence he has to remove the apparatus anyway, so would probably want to give it to you.

pendoblue
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30 Oct 2019 2:27PM
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Yes thanks for that. Another good idea.

pendoblue
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30 Oct 2019 2:30PM
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Lazzz said..
Have you approached the local BSO? Sometimes they are very helpful & can help if you explain the story.

Others aren't so helpful!!


How do you contact the local BSO?

r13
NSW, 1714 posts
30 Oct 2019 6:09PM
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See here for details of the process;

www.rms.nsw.gov.au/maritime/moorings/private-moorings.html

That area BSO probably works out of Rozelle;

www.service.nsw.gov.au/service-centre

Phone 13 12 36 and they will put you through.

The BSO we dealt with out of there around 3 1/2 years ago was excellent.

pendoblue
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30 Oct 2019 4:01PM
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r13 said..
See here for details of the process;

www.rms.nsw.gov.au/maritime/moorings/private-moorings.html

That area BSO probably works out of Rozelle;

www.service.nsw.gov.au/service-centre

Phone 13 12 36 and they will put you through.

The BSO we dealt with out of there around 3 1/2 years ago was excellent.


Thank you...will do

Azure305
NSW, 402 posts
30 Oct 2019 7:26PM
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The BSO around Lane Cove River is probly the same one for you, it's only a couple of k's up river. If it is, his name is Rory - nice bloke and easy to talk to.

woko
NSW, 1770 posts
30 Oct 2019 8:03PM
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pendoblue said..
I have an offer to buy a mooring in Morrison Bay from a yacht owner moving his boat to Lake Macquarie. According to RMS I have to buy the registered boat currently on that mooring for a transfer to be successful.
There is currently no waiting list for this area.
Is there a way around this so I can moor my yacht on this mooring.
Appreciate any help.
Peter


Ah, buying the registered boat on the mooring does nothing toward getting the mooring licence, otherwise the crappyist boat in the best position would be worth a million, if no waiting list spend the couple a hundred to get on the list and get the first offer. Then buy the mooring tackle of the previous owner if it's any good

pendoblue
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30 Oct 2019 5:58PM
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woko said..

pendoblue said..
I have an offer to buy a mooring in Morrison Bay from a yacht owner moving his boat to Lake Macquarie. According to RMS I have to buy the registered boat currently on that mooring for a transfer to be successful.
There is currently no waiting list for this area.
Is there a way around this so I can moor my yacht on this mooring.
Appreciate any help.
Peter



Ah, buying the registered boat on the mooring does nothing toward getting the mooring licence, otherwise the crappyist boat in the best position would be worth a million, if no waiting list spend the couple a hundred to get on the list and get the first offer. Then buy the mooring tackle of the previous owner if it's any good


Any idea how long it takes for an application to be processed? There's no waiting list for this area.

MorningBird
NSW, 2703 posts
30 Oct 2019 9:08PM
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I had a Duncanson 26 in Morrisons Bay. It is a good location but a long way to anywhere you can sail (it is very sheltered and the wind is too variable that far up the river but the views and beautiful houses make it an interesting passage).
The RMS advice is correct but a couple of things need to be said to make it clear what you are buying and getting.
Where you will be allowed to put your boat will depend on its length, weight and draft. You might have to move the mooring you buy to a different spot.
You can buy the mooring apparatus from someone and as the previous owner needs to remove the mooring and you are the only buyer a good deal can be had. However it may be that the mooring apparatus has been there for 20 years and worn out, or it is designed for a 20ft boat and you have a 34 ft boat.

r13
NSW, 1714 posts
30 Oct 2019 10:24PM
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Most if not all insurance companies insist on a professional mooring check and service every 12 months now else the insurance is void. Yes good point re checking if the existing mooring tackle is enough for the new boat. Deniz at OctopusMarine will do all mooring work needed at good value..
www.octopusmarine.com.au/

Azure305
NSW, 402 posts
31 Oct 2019 12:41AM
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AzureF305 said..
The BSO around Lane Cove River is probly the same one for you, it's only a couple of k's up river. If it is, his name is Rory - nice bloke and easy to talk to.


His mbl number is 0418 618 435. He gave it to me freely last time we had a chat, and it's no problem to ring him directly for a bit of advice about your needs.

woko
NSW, 1770 posts
31 Oct 2019 5:53AM
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pendoblue said..

woko said..


pendoblue said..
I have an offer to buy a mooring in Morrison Bay from a yacht owner moving his boat to Lake Macquarie. According to RMS I have to buy the registered boat currently on that mooring for a transfer to be successful.
There is currently no waiting list for this area.
Is there a way around this so I can moor my yacht on this mooring.
Appreciate any help.
Peter




Ah, buying the registered boat on the mooring does nothing toward getting the mooring licence, otherwise the crappyist boat in the best position would be worth a million, if no waiting list spend the couple a hundred to get on the list and get the first offer. Then buy the mooring tackle of the previous owner if it's any good



Any idea how long it takes for an application to be processed? There's no waiting list for this area.

It can be a waiting game, but get onto the BSO he sounds alright and that can speed the process up considerably

troubadour
NSW, 334 posts
31 Oct 2019 7:26AM
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The way I understand it if there is no waiting list the current license holder can write to RMS saying he no longer needs the mooring. He can sell the apparatus to you and RMS assign the site to you, pay some money and off you go. The BSO for the area is Nick

pendoblue
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31 Oct 2019 10:16AM
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Thanks for all the info very helpful. The mooring was serviced recently. I'm putting a Swanson Dart on it. Current boat much bigger.

MorningBird
NSW, 2703 posts
31 Oct 2019 10:13PM
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pendoblue said..
Thanks for all the info very helpful. The mooring was serviced recently. I'm putting a Swanson Dart on it. Current boat much bigger.


I reckon you are on a winner then.

Chris 249
NSW, 3531 posts
1 Nov 2019 7:11AM
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The system seems to have been changed recently - I was advised by RMS that I can now basically take over someone else's mooring. They seem to have tried hard to stamp that sort of thing out a while ago, so I assumed it was still impossible.

Yara
NSW, 1314 posts
1 Nov 2019 10:45AM
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Chris 249 said..
The system seems to have been changed recently - I was advised by RMS that I can now basically take over someone else's mooring. They seem to have tried hard to stamp that sort of thing out a while ago, so I assumed it was still impossible.


i think that is only the case if you are buying a boat at a place where there is no waiting list.



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