Taking over a swing mooring with old gear on it. It was used by a commercial fishing vessel, the swivel alone is around 30kg. Anyways it's way oversized for my boat.
Im looking for some guidance in terms of what kind of working loads or break loads to spec my new pennant hardware and lines?
Also what have others experienced in terms of setups ie. all chain with stretchy loop(unsure of terminology), 3 strand nylon, nylon\dyneema?
Boat is 29ft 5ton, and mooring is pretty exposed in certain conditions.
Thanks.
I use a couple of meters of 16mm 3 strand nylon at the top of the mooring of my 3.5 tonne 28 footer. It has PVC tube for chafe protection where it goes through the roller and I replace it annually.
Firstly it keeps the rusty chain off the deck, Second, once I have grabbed it with the boat hook I can use my windlass to take the forces as I pull it in. That is horribly hard to do manually in 25 or 30 knots, even when if you're not old and decrepit.
When I leave the mooring, it is left dangling through a loop at the top of the stick buoy so it's really easy to grab. Some of my neighbours use 3m long floating ropes, which I consider very ungentlemanly. They should be banned.
It sounds like your tackle might be a bit too heavy for your boat though. Which mooring ground are you in?
Cheers, Graeme
Select to expand quotewongaga said..
I use a couple of meters of 16mm 3 strand nylon at the top of the mooring of my 3.5 tonne 28 footer. It has PVC tube for chafe protection where it goes through the roller and I replace it annually.
Firstly it keeps the rusty chain off the deck, Second, once I have grabbed it with the boat hook I can use my windlass to take the forces as I pull it in. That is horribly hard to do manually in 25 or 30 knots, even when if you're not old and decrepit.
When I leave the mooring, it is left dangling through a loop at the top of the stick buoy so it's really easy to grab. Some of my neighbours use 3m long floating ropes, which I consider very ungentlemanly. They should be banned.
It sounds like your tackle might be a bit too heavy for your boat though. Which mooring ground are you in?
Cheers, Graeme
Hey Graeme,
yeah im going to ditch all the gear on the top of the mooring it's rated for a 60ton trawler.
I'm in Warrnambool, Victoria. I'm the only sailboat in town so I can't take a squize at the neighbours setup because they are all big steal ships.
Thank you mate, I think I will go with 16mm 3 strand nylon also it's breaking load is over 5 ton so surly that will be enough to hold her in any of the gales that come through these parts. Roaring 40's that's for sure.
Just need to get a swivel and a shake rated the same and I'll be good to go. Now how the heck am I going to get the other gear off? It weighs about 50kg.
Select to expand quoteLandofNod said..wongaga said..
I use a couple of meters of 16mm 3 strand nylon at the top of the mooring of my 3.5 tonne 28 footer. It has PVC tube for chafe protection where it goes through the roller and I replace it annually.
Firstly it keeps the rusty chain off the deck, Second, once I have grabbed it with the boat hook I can use my windlass to take the forces as I pull it in. That is horribly hard to do manually in 25 or 30 knots, even when if you're not old and decrepit.
When I leave the mooring, it is left dangling through a loop at the top of the stick buoy so it's really easy to grab. Some of my neighbours use 3m long floating ropes, which I consider very ungentlemanly. They should be banned.
It sounds like your tackle might be a bit too heavy for your boat though. Which mooring ground are you in?
Cheers, Graeme
Hey Graeme,
yeah im going to ditch all the gear on the top of the mooring it's rated for a 60ton trawler.
I'm in Warrnambool, Victoria. I'm the only sailboat in town so I can't take a squize at the neighbours setup because they are all big steal ships.
Thank you mate, I think I will go with 16mm 3 strand nylon also it's breaking load is over 5 ton so surly that will be enough to hold her in any of the gales that come through these parts. Roaring 40's that's for sure.
Just need to get a swivel and a shake rated the same and I'll be good to go. Now how the heck am I going to get the other gear off? It weighs about 50kg.
If there's nothing wrong with the set up that is already there than why change it? When it's blowing 30 knots you can be assured that your boat ain't going anywhere! If you haven't had a look the gear I would. Some fisherman won't keep up on any maintenance at all.
Hope I understand what you are saying and not rambling on about nothing.
Regards,
Mick
Select to expand quoteShanty said..LandofNod said..wongaga said..
I use a couple of meters of 16mm 3 strand nylon at the top of the mooring of my 3.5 tonne 28 footer. It has PVC tube for chafe protection where it goes through the roller and I replace it annually.
Firstly it keeps the rusty chain off the deck, Second, once I have grabbed it with the boat hook I can use my windlass to take the forces as I pull it in. That is horribly hard to do manually in 25 or 30 knots, even when if you're not old and decrepit.
When I leave the mooring, it is left dangling through a loop at the top of the stick buoy so it's really easy to grab. Some of my neighbours use 3m long floating ropes, which I consider very ungentlemanly. They should be banned.
It sounds like your tackle might be a bit too heavy for your boat though. Which mooring ground are you in?
Cheers, Graeme
Hey Graeme,
yeah im going to ditch all the gear on the top of the mooring it's rated for a 60ton trawler.
I'm in Warrnambool, Victoria. I'm the only sailboat in town so I can't take a squize at the neighbours setup because they are all big steal ships.
Thank you mate, I think I will go with 16mm 3 strand nylon also it's breaking load is over 5 ton so surly that will be enough to hold her in any of the gales that come through these parts. Roaring 40's that's for sure.
Just need to get a swivel and a shake rated the same and I'll be good to go. Now how the heck am I going to get the other gear off? It weighs about 50kg.
If there's nothing wrong with the set up that is already there than why change it? When it's blowing 30 knots you can be assured that your boat ain't going anywhere! If you haven't had a look the gear I would. Some fisherman won't keep up on any maintenance at all.
Hope I understand what you are saying and not rambling on about nothing.
Regards,
Mick
It's honesty massive, I don't think I could pull up the pennant without mechanical assistance and the line on it is around 50-60mm I don't think it would fit on my kingspost let alone a cleat.
So I have to down size it, I guess I could simply extend with a bridal but I don't think the swivel will work properly laying down in the water.
Select to expand quoteLandofNod said..Shanty said..LandofNod said..wongaga said..
I use a couple of meters of 16mm 3 strand nylon at the top of the mooring of my 3.5 tonne 28 footer. It has PVC tube for chafe protection where it goes through the roller and I replace it annually.
Firstly it keeps the rusty chain off the deck, Second, once I have grabbed it with the boat hook I can use my windlass to take the forces as I pull it in. That is horribly hard to do manually in 25 or 30 knots, even when if you're not old and decrepit.
When I leave the mooring, it is left dangling through a loop at the top of the stick buoy so it's really easy to grab. Some of my neighbours use 3m long floating ropes, which I consider very ungentlemanly. They should be banned.
It sounds like your tackle might be a bit too heavy for your boat though. Which mooring ground are you in?
Cheers, Graeme
Hey Graeme,
yeah im going to ditch all the gear on the top of the mooring it's rated for a 60ton trawler.
I'm in Warrnambool, Victoria. I'm the only sailboat in town so I can't take a squize at the neighbours setup because they are all big steal ships.
Thank you mate, I think I will go with 16mm 3 strand nylon also it's breaking load is over 5 ton so surly that will be enough to hold her in any of the gales that come through these parts. Roaring 40's that's for sure.
Just need to get a swivel and a shake rated the same and I'll be good to go. Now how the heck am I going to get the other gear off? It weighs about 50kg.
If there's nothing wrong with the set up that is already there than why change it? When it's blowing 30 knots you can be assured that your boat ain't going anywhere! If you haven't had a look the gear I would. Some fisherman won't keep up on any maintenance at all.
Hope I understand what you are saying and not rambling on about nothing.
Regards,
Mick
It's honesty massive, I don't think I could pull up the pennant without mechanical assistance and the line on it is around 50-60mm I don't think it would fit on my kingspost let alone a cleat.
So I have to down size it, I guess I could simply extend with a bridal but I don't think the swivel will work properly laying down in the water.
Fair enough mate,
i reckon wongaga has the right idea
If the tackle is that heavy, it wont provide much if any shock absorption by the chain is lifting off the seabed. This will increase the shock loading on your bridle and kingpost. A long nylon bridle would help with this, but then you might have swing radius problems.
Big swivel prolly worth a bob to another comm boatSelect to expand quoteLandofNod said..
Taking over a swing mooring with old gear on it. It was used by a commercial fishing vessel, the swivel alone is around 30kg. Anyways it's way oversized for my boat.
Im looking for some guidance in terms of what kind of working loads or break loads to spec my new pennant hardware and lines?
Also what have others experienced in terms of setups ie. all chain with stretchy loop(unsure of terminology), 3 strand nylon, nylon\dyneema?
Boat is 29ft 5ton, and mooring is pretty exposed in certain conditions.
Thanks.Select to expand quoteLandofNod said..wongaga said..
I use a couple of meters of 16mm 3 strand nylon at the top of the mooring of my 3.5 tonne 28 footer. It has PVC tube for chafe protection where it goes through the roller and I replace it annually.
Firstly it keeps the rusty chain off the deck, Second, once I have grabbed it with the boat hook I can use my windlass to take the forces as I pull it in. That is horribly hard to do manually in 25 or 30 knots, even when if you're not old and decrepit.
When I leave the mooring, it is left dangling through a loop at the top of the stick buoy so it's really easy to grab. Some of my neighbours use 3m long floating ropes, which I consider very ungentlemanly. They should be banned.
It sounds like your tackle might be a bit too heavy for your boat though. Which mooring ground are you in?
Cheers, Graeme
Hey Graeme,
yeah im going to ditch all the gear on the top of the mooring it's rated for a 60ton trawler.
I'm in Warrnambool, Victoria. I'm the only sailboat in town so I can't take a squize at the neighbours setup because they are all big steal ships.
Thank you mate, I think I will go with 16mm 3 strand nylon also it's breaking load is over 5 ton so surly that will be enough to hold her in any of the gales that come through these parts. Roaring 40's that's for sure.
Just need to get a swivel and a shake rated the same and I'll be good to go. Now how the heck am I going to get the other gear off? It weighs about 50kg.
If it's that heavy just undo and leave it on the sea floor
