Has anybody looked at this boat, or know this boat? Any comments?
yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/sayer-40-centre-cockpit-cruising-yacht/241403
Looks quite different to the typical 'Sayer' so was wondering if anybody knows anything about this particular boat.
Any thoughts on condition, performance, construction, suitability for QLD coastal cruising? Brisbane to New Caledonia to Vanuatu to Solomons and back, how would she go?
Looks fairly stiff with the lead bulb and the way she sails almost upright in the pictures.
Beautiful yacht. I don't know it but the photos and text speak for themselves. It is not "quite different to the typical Sayer" as regards hull below the gunwale - so hull shell, keel and rudder. Sure it is different to most of John's designs in deck and cabin design including centre cockpit - that's due to him usually doing after cockpits and conventional cabins. Condition and construction look gold, performance should be similar. Surely it would be perfect for your cruising plans as outlined, with the 1.9m draft being not too excessive but enough to give stability along with the bulb. Only issue I could offer - and this is so minor as to be virtually not worth mentioning - is that by 2003 most keel bulb aft ends went to beaver tails and were not still points. Not too wide a beaver tail - depends on the bulb length and maximum width. The bulb end point sheds a vortex more than the beaver tail, creating a bit more drag. And the beaver tail would provide a bit of an end plate effect to the keel end - not a lot. Most bulbs now are squashed a bit vertically compared to laterally - so are not circular in cross section rather a bit more elliptical.
WOW!!!!
Talk about comes with the lot.
A kelpie!!!
Seriously though, That is a fantastic boat.
gary
Malcolm Oats is a friend of My dad and has built some beautiful boats. I haven't seen Waywood myself, but Dad and Malcolm did lots of cruising up around the Whitsundays together in the mid 2000's and dad said the fit out and woodwork are beautiful on Waywood. If I had the $$$ I would be putting an offer in too!! Malcolm has helped me with advice on my Carter 33 and is a now rebuilding vintage cars.
Obviously top input Nicke23.
I didn't want to get too effusive with my response so it is good that you have chimed in with such "feet on the ground" information.
If I had the $s I wouldn't be putting an offer in, I would immediately send the direct bank deposit for the full advertised amount and go and pick it up the next day.
To clarify, I have nothing to do with this yacht's owners or designer (sorry it is Jon not John) or builder.
For more background on Jon Sayer designs see;
sayerdesign.com/about-us/
sayerdesign.com/photo-gallery/
sayerdesign.com/build-project-sayer-50/
sayerdesign.com/photo-gallery-2/
Wow...some good feedback here. Thank you. Very interested in the comments about the keel. That is one area I have concerns. Have never owned a boat with a bulb keel and am wondering what it is like in the real world with groundings and potential for fouled lines, etc.
It is a beautiful boat.
Any other centre cockpits I should compare?
I am also interested in this boat;
yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/cape-barren-goose/242227
But it just feels like a lot less boat, even though it is significantly less expensive.
What do you think are the pros and cons when comparing these two boats?
For sure there are many other centre cockpit boats that can be compared.
What is your present yacht, and/or the ones you have owned in the past?
Obviously the bulb fin keel with the bulb protruding fwd of the leading edge of the fin will snare lines if that's what you run into. We have a 1985 9.3m racer/cruiser with 2.22m draft lead bulb and steel fin of similar design and have snared mark rounding rope lines in the haste to get to the race finish due to my carelessness.........you are not going to do that. The Sayer keel and hull strength overall and including about the keel to hull joint will be very well engineered and will like us take mild mud and sandbank groundings in it's stride with nary a problem but if you are going to run into the Sow and Pigs or any rock reef off a headland then that's another matter. You are not going to do that.
As regards the Cape Barren Goose - obviously a top effort right there by the one owner since 1977. Am sure you are aware that the encapsulated keel ballast system has the hull grp moulding going right round outside the keel lead ballast each side and underneath - so totally encapsulated. So the strength of this system would be immense, but still if such a yacht hit the bricks at speed the damage could be significant. The space behind the wheel on that Cape Barren Goose seems tight as..........virtually claustrophobic.........and seems like the skipper needs to sit up on the aft cabin deck by the look of it - how comfortable would that be cruising the Pacific? can you fit in there? Or is the space more than it appears. This is nothing against this yacht.........just as input on some issues.
Very different boats. With your list of destinations, you'd need a Bimini because between the sun and water reflections, you'd cook without one. The Sayer more immediately lends itself to the tropics where air movement through the interior is absolutely necessary. Just avoid reefs - more easily said than done:)
Further south, the CBG would probably shine...
