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Propspeed on prop shaft

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Created by Gravy7 > 9 months ago, 23 Aug 2017
Gravy7
NSW, 242 posts
23 Aug 2017 3:06PM
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Is it worthwhile putting Propspeed onto an exposed propeller shaft?

I get the concept of the rapid water movement past the propeller blades keeping them clean and the importance of keeping a prop, particularly a folding prop, free of any growth.

But if the prop shaft only rotates at, say, 3,000 RPM, what is the advantage of Propspeed over normal ablative antifouling?

It's always been included in the cost of coating the prop but this year I've been stung extra for coating the shaft which has prompted my question to the Brains Trust.





cisco
QLD, 12361 posts
23 Aug 2017 3:09PM
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Yes it is worth doing.

samsturdy
NSW, 1659 posts
23 Aug 2017 3:45PM
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I had my shaft done, I was told it increases the life of the anode.

Poodle
WA, 867 posts
23 Aug 2017 4:01PM
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Yes.

sirgallivant
NSW, 1531 posts
23 Aug 2017 6:53PM
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Yes, but the avaricious reptile should not charge extra for the shaft.
Usually $150.

cisco
QLD, 12361 posts
23 Aug 2017 9:08PM
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samsturdy said..
I had my shaft done, I was told it increases the life of the anode.


It certainly does if the shaft is coated with Propspeed before attaching the anode and you then coat the anode with the same.

It will last forever. I can't say the same for the metal components the anode is supposed to protect.

Anodes are sacrificial.

cisco
QLD, 12361 posts
23 Aug 2017 9:11PM
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sirgallivant said..
Yes, but the avaricious reptile should not charge extra for the shaft.
Usually $150.



Avaricious Reptile!! That is an apt name for all that take money from poor yachties.

Sunseeker39
WA, 71 posts
24 Aug 2017 2:33PM
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absolutely yes

MorningBird
NSW, 2698 posts
24 Aug 2017 6:09PM
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cisco said..

sirgallivant said..
Yes, but the avaricious reptile should not charge extra for the shaft.
Usually $150.




Avaricious Reptile!! That is an apt name for all that take money from poor yachties.


Good one!

Playnesailing
VIC, 9 posts
24 Aug 2017 6:51PM
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as a bit of an experiment i covered my stainless shaft in tape, then painted the tape with antifoul.
a recent check after nearly 12months there is no fouling and the tape is still attached. i guess time will tell
and next time i slip i will reassess.

Ramona
NSW, 7722 posts
24 Aug 2017 7:01PM
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Playnesailing said..
as a bit of an experiment i covered my stainless shaft in tape, then painted the tape with antifoul.
a recent check after nearly 12months there is no fouling and the tape is still attached. i guess time will tell
and next time i slip i will reassess.


There is a vinyl type of hull "antifouling" that has just come out overseas. It's just a wrap that is applied in layers like wall paper. I can see this happening for props and shafts then we will see what happens to these propspeed people. I should imagine it's just some sort of slippery vinyl.

www.yachtsandyachting.com/

SandS
VIC, 5904 posts
24 Aug 2017 7:30PM
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Ramona said..

Playnesailing said..
as a bit of an experiment i covered my stainless shaft in tape, then painted the tape with antifoul.
a recent check after nearly 12months there is no fouling and the tape is still attached. i guess time will tell
and next time i slip i will reassess.



There is a vinyl type of hull "antifouling" that has just come out overseas. It's just a wrap that is applied in layers like wall paper. I can see this happening for props and shafts then we will see what happens to these propspeed people. I should imagine it's just some sort of slippery vinyl.

www.yachtsandyachting.com/


what a great idea !!! like to try that !

Hiko
1229 posts
31 Aug 2017 10:41AM
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Gravy7 said..growth.

But if the prop shaft only rotates at, say, 3,000 RPM, what is the advantage of Propspeed over normal ablative antifouling?

Only 3000rpm ??? Surely not
1000rpm more like





Ringle
NSW, 196 posts
31 Aug 2017 1:01PM
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Hiko said..


Gravy7 said..growth.

But if the prop shaft only rotates at, say, 3,000 RPM, what is the advantage of Propspeed over normal ablative antifouling?

Only 3000rpm ??? Surely not
1000rpm more like







assuming a 1" shaft, the surface is spinning at roughly 90 knots at 3000 rpm

or 30 knots at 1000 rpm

Ramona
NSW, 7722 posts
31 Aug 2017 6:05PM
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Marine gearboxes vary between 1.5:1 to 4:1 so if the Vinyl was cut into strips and applied like you were wrapping in tape it should be fine. Tips of propellers might be a problem.

woko
NSW, 1748 posts
31 Aug 2017 7:38PM
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My gear reduction is about 2:1 at 1200 engine rpm the prop is doing 600rpm, I ave no exposed shaft. When I haul out I've been slapping the same soft ablative on the prop and rudder, well you can all guess how long that last tho it does hang on good around the centre of the prop and the nut.
Do you think using a harder anti foul would make any difference on the prop and rudder ? Or should I just coat em I'm tallow ?

Ramona
NSW, 7722 posts
1 Sep 2017 9:05AM
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woko said..
My gear reduction is about 2:1 at 1200 engine rpm the prop is doing 600rpm, I ave no exposed shaft. When I haul out I've been slapping the same soft ablative on the prop and rudder, well you can all guess how long that last tho it does hang on good around the centre of the prop and the nut.
Do you think using a harder anti foul would make any difference on the prop and rudder ? Or should I just coat em I'm tallow ?


Don't bother with the tallow. Ablative on the hull and hard on the prop will be fine at those revs. My old fishing boat with ablative antifoul everywhere. 2:1 box and maximum engine rpm of 1000 but lots of time with the shaft rpm at 150. The paint would last probably 6 months!



boty
QLD, 685 posts
1 Sep 2017 9:38AM
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Ramona said..

woko said..
My gear reduction is about 2:1 at 1200 engine rpm the prop is doing 600rpm, I ave no exposed shaft. When I haul out I've been slapping the same soft ablative on the prop and rudder, well you can all guess how long that last tho it does hang on good around the centre of the prop and the nut.
Do you think using a harder anti foul would make any difference on the prop and rudder ? Or should I just coat em I'm tallow ?



Don't bother with the tallow. Ablative on the hull and hard on the prop will be fine at those revs. My old fishing boat with ablative antifoul everywhere. 2:1 box and maximum engine rpm of 1000 but lots of time with the shaft rpm at 150. The paint would last probably 6 months!




love your fishing boat rammona

woko
NSW, 1748 posts
1 Sep 2017 7:52PM
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boty said..

Ramona said..


woko said..
My gear reduction is about 2:1 at 1200 engine rpm the prop is doing 600rpm, I ave no exposed shaft. When I haul out I've been slapping the same soft ablative on the prop and rudder, well you can all guess how long that last tho it does hang on good around the centre of the prop and the nut.
Do you think using a harder anti foul would make any difference on the prop and rudder ? Or should I just coat em I'm tallow ?




Don't bother with the tallow. Ablative on the hull and hard on the prop will be fine at those revs. My old fishing boat with ablative antifoul everywhere. 2:1 box and maximum engine rpm of 1000 but lots of time with the shaft rpm at 150. The paint would last probably 6 months!




love your fishing boat rammona


Thanks Ramona, I wasn't really goin to smear it in tallow ! The drive n steer gear on currency lass has trawler like set up


Ramona
NSW, 7722 posts
2 Sep 2017 7:56AM
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woko said..

Thanks Ramona, I wasn't really goin to smear it in tallow ! The drive n steer gear on currency lass has trawler like set up



I thought you may have been going to try Lanolin. I would just use a good metal primer on the prop and then antifoul of your choice. It's going to get shell after a few months but that looks like an easy dive with snorkeling gear to clean off.

PhoenixStar
QLD, 477 posts
2 Sep 2017 9:58AM
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I seem to be having success with Velox. There was nothing on the prop or shaft when I hauled out after 6 months in the water. Jury is still out, we will see what it is like after 12 months. Some people say it does not atay on, but I think that maybe they didn't follow the surface prep that is required.

Ringle
NSW, 196 posts
2 Sep 2017 6:36PM
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Is there anything that can be applied underwater between slips?



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