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Created by Zzzzzz > 9 months ago, 13 Nov 2020
Zzzzzz
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13 Nov 2020 2:11PM
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Does anyone know if or when the Nanni Diesel engine are injector pump or direct injection?

UncleBob
NSW, 1301 posts
13 Nov 2020 6:36PM
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Zzzzzz said..
Does anyone know if or when the Nanni Diesel engine are injector pump or direct injection?


Mate, just what are you asking???
Every diesel engine has an injection pump.!!

Zzzzzz
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13 Nov 2020 4:14PM
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Zzzzzz said..
Does anyone know if or when the Nanni Diesel engine are injector pump or direct injection?



Mate, just what are you asking???
Every diesel engine has an injection pump.!!


Old Diesel engines had mechanical injector pumps I was of the belief they did away with them and went computer

Jolene
WA, 1622 posts
13 Nov 2020 4:28PM
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UncleBob said..


Zzzzzz said..
Does anyone know if or when the Nanni Diesel engine are injector pump or direct injection?




Mate, just what are you asking???
Every diesel engine has an injection pump.!!



Old Diesel engines had mechanical injector pumps I was of the belief they did away with them and went computer


Yes
Some of their Toyota derivatives have common rail fueling.

UncleBob
NSW, 1301 posts
13 Nov 2020 7:38PM
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UncleBob said..


Zzzzzz said..
Does anyone know if or when the Nanni Diesel engine are injector pump or direct injection?




Mate, just what are you asking???
Every diesel engine has an injection pump.!!



Old Diesel engines had mechanical injector pumps I was of the belief they did away with them and went computer


Some but nowhere near all, but an electronic common rail requires a high pressure pump, the difference is the electronic distribution versus mechanical distribution.

Zzzzzz
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13 Nov 2020 5:13PM
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Zzzzzz said..


UncleBob said..



Zzzzzz said..
Does anyone know if or when the Nanni Diesel engine are injector pump or direct injection?





Mate, just what are you asking???
Every diesel engine has an injection pump.!!




Old Diesel engines had mechanical injector pumps I was of the belief they did away with them and went computer



Some but nowhere near all, but an electronic common rail requires a high pressure pump, the difference is the electronic distribution versus mechanical distribution.


Ok thanks I was trying to find out if they did change to common rail what year they did it would be great if they are still building mechanical distribution thanks for your answer

Stockie
NSW, 343 posts
13 Nov 2020 9:20PM
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Hi all, mechanical injection is one of the good attributes of Diesel engines, especially in a marine environment, think the KISS principle.
Mechanical needs a timed pump, and sprung loaded non return valves, injectors!
Common rail is an electric high pressure pump, with all injectors in a common high pressure circuit, the injectors are hi tech solenoid valves, each opening at a computer controlled tine, and possible micro controlled to open and close multiple times during one firing cycle. So smoother softer firing stokes are possible, leading to a smoother, more controlled engine. But, these intricate devices are even more finicky about fuel quality, than good old Mech, even Mech is not that tolerant of bad fuel.
Direct injection is the position of the injectors, directly in the combustion chamber. Pre combustion or indirect injection engines, have the injectors in a separate adjoining chamber.
more old tech than DI

Zzzzzz
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13 Nov 2020 7:38PM
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Stockie said..
Hi all, mechanical injection is one of the good attributes of Diesel engines, especially in a marine environment, think the KISS principle.
Mechanical needs a timed pump, and sprung loaded non return valves, injectors!
Common rail is an electric high pressure pump, with all injectors in a common high pressure circuit, the injectors are hi tech solenoid valves, each opening at a computer controlled tine, and possible micro controlled to open and close multiple times during one firing cycle. So smoother softer firing stokes are possible, leading to a smoother, more controlled engine. But, these intricate devices are even more finicky about fuel quality, than good old Mech, even Mech is not that tolerant of bad fuel.
Direct injection is the position of the injectors, directly in the combustion chamber. Pre combustion or indirect injection engines, have the injectors in a separate adjoining chamber.
more old tech than DI


Hi Stockie very thorough explanation , what got me on this discussion was the post on being hit by lightning, It got me thinking that that could also put your new age motors out of action with their computer control

Stockie
NSW, 343 posts
14 Nov 2020 8:52AM
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Stockie said..
Hi all, mechanical injection is one of the good attributes of Diesel engines, especially in a marine environment, think the KISS principle.
Mechanical needs a timed pump, and sprung loaded non return valves, injectors!
Common rail is an electric high pressure pump, with all injectors in a common high pressure circuit, the injectors are hi tech solenoid valves, each opening at a computer controlled tine, and possible micro controlled to open and close multiple times during one firing cycle. So smoother softer firing stokes are possible, leading to a smoother, more controlled engine. But, these intricate devices are even more finicky about fuel quality, than good old Mech, even Mech is not that tolerant of bad fuel.
Direct injection is the position of the injectors, directly in the combustion chamber. Pre combustion or indirect injection engines, have the injectors in a separate adjoining chamber.
more old tech than DI



Hi Stockie very thorough explanation , what got me on this discussion was the post on being hit by lightning, It got me thinking that that could also put your new age motors out of action with their computer control


That's true, most modern trucks with computer controlled Diesel engines have more electrical failures than actual mechanical. We had sone trailer refrigeration units that came with Yanmar electronic. Engines, these came with a directive to use special nickle plated fuel fittings, no normal brass. This was to stop potential contamination of the injector pintles, that tells me they are very susceptible to fuel contamination?



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