Are these any good? I think i need new burners as it drips lit metho but at $130 each i dont know if its worth fixing it up
Or put that money towards a different one. or should i go gas, problem is l dont have big enough lazerette for gas bottle so will have to hang of pushpit
What are your thoughts?
Cheers
Great with the one warning. If the flame goes out while the unit is on it will continue to output metho vapour. If you attempt to light it again in this state the vapour collects around the stove and.....FLASH! BANG! .......not good. I have one similar and have a rule to not leave it unattended when cooking and if I have a flame out i turn off the supply, allow to cool a bit, then re light. If i have a flame out i didn't notice straight away i will make sure there is time for the stove mechanism cool right down and ventilate the area. I think they are safer and more convenient than gas.
In my opinion the Dometic origo stove is the best metho stove by far. The cartridges are easy to fill without a funnel, especially in a seaway, and once filled wont leak even if turned upside down.
Available from the importer, Seabreeze industries, at $385 it's a no brainer you could just modify your existing gimbals rather than buying the Dometic ones as they add about $140 to the cost from memory
www.seabreeze-industries.com.au/products/Dometic-ORIGO-3000-2-Burner-Stove-214.htm
Very good little stove.
I had one on previous boat and went out and bought a new one for present boat getting rid of the gas one. Im a bit chicken to sail around with a tank of LPG on board.
Even makes nice toast and grills. As above mentioned be careful with the metho and make sure you have a fire extinguisher and or fire blanket handy (as with all stoves).
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Very good little stove.
I had one on previous boat and went out and bought a new one for present boat getting rid of the gas one. Im a bit chicken to sail around with a tank of LPG on board.
Even makes nice toast and grills. As above mentioned be careful with the metho and make sure you have a fire extinguisher and or fire blanket handy (as with all stoves).
You can put metho out with water rather than a fire extinguisher- big advantage.
SCG, it sounds unusual for it to be dripping lit metho??
They are great stoves, are you sure your using it correctly?, you don't need to overfill the pre-heat trays around the burners, just enough for about 10 to 15 seconds of flames to then vapourise the metho to the actual burners.
Turn the burner on to get a little meths into the tray, then turn off the knob very gently. Light the meths until it nearly goes out, then turn the knob back on, the vapours should then light up at the burner.
I lived on board with a Maxie for four years and loved it. We're going to buy another one soon as we need the later model with the flat tank to replace the Origo which was on our new boat when we bought it. While others obviously disagree, we really are not happy with the Origo stove's speed, the metho smell, or the refilling. Different ships, different splices.
A couple of mates of mine were coming up the river at night and the one who was the owner was in the cabin lighting up the metho cook top
He turned on the tap to put some metho in the tray around the burner and got distracted and filled up the bottom of the cook top with metho
He lit up the metho in the tray and the the metho in the bottom of the cook top caught fire resulting in lots of flames in the cabin
Put it out with a powder fire extinguisher and the bloke who was outside steering said it took about 15 minutes for the white powder cloud in the cabin to clear
Regards Don
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A couple of mates of mine were coming up the river at night and the one who was the owner was in the cabin lighting up the metho cook top
He turned on the tap to put some metho in the tray around the burner and got distracted and filled up the bottom of the cook top with metho
He lit up the metho in the tray and the the metho in the bottom of the cook top caught fire resulting in lots of flames in the cabin
Put it out with a powder fire extinguisher and the bloke who was outside steering said it took about 15 minutes for the white powder cloud in the cabin to clear
Regards Don
Hi Don I was going to say the same. We experienced the dripping burning metho once. It happened because the little dishes under the burners were over full and spilt. Scary. That was when we were learning how to use it and now days never over fill it and its been perfect since.
I'm still cooking with a 1974 3 burner Maxi.
I was going to do a big galley mod and put in gas but never got around to it and now I'm happy I didn't.
Best bit of kit is a Weber Q sitting at aft end of cockpit with cover and gas bottle mounted on rail. Far prefer heavy smells left astern.
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SCG, it sounds unusual for it to be dripping lit metho??
They are great stoves, are you sure your using it correctly?, you don't need to overfill the pre-heat trays around the burners, just enough for about 10 to 15 seconds of flames to then vapourise the metho to the actual burners.
Turn the burner on to get a little meths into the tray, then turn off the knob very gently. Light the meths until it nearly goes out, then turn the knob back on, the vapours should then light up at the burner.
Maybe im doing something wrong,
When i get the burners going it still drips into the pre heat trays and over overflows
It hasnt been used in over 7 years, maybe its the old metho, I'll try it again with fresh metho
What about this amazing bit of kit
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When i get the burners going it still drips into the pre heat trays and over overflows
It hasnt been used in over 7 years, maybe its the old metho, I'll try it again with fresh metho
If it was unused for 7 years most likely the gland on the burner valves have dried out and now drip.
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They are a great stove and I say are worth buying new burners. When they are running right the odour is minimal because of the efficiency of that type of burner. The preheating of the spirit makes the burn more like a gas flame.
The Origos are also very good, very easy to operate and refill and have no mechanical parts. The flame is bigger in diameter but not as intense as the Maxi because it is purely and evaporative flame. I do not like the odour from these, it being quite acrid.
Metho stoves for down below are probably the safest and most economical solution with the advantage of not requiring expensive, annual in some states I believe, gas certificates or for when you sell the boat.
As Ringle said, if the metho stove is complimented with a Weber Q on deck, you have all cooking solutions covered. A hooded BBQ will even do a roast for you.
I will always carry a single or double burner gas pressure pack stove as well but not store the pressure packs below as they will rust.
The other issue is the wick in the feed tube. This regulates the amount of metho being released. It is before the valve.
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The other issue is the wick in the feed tube. This regulates the amount of metho being released. It is before the valve.
Yes, this is most likely the cause of the problem. Probably dried out and fallen apart.
For those who dont like the smell, there is a special low odour metho you can buy.
Hi all thanks for all your advice. I have flushed out the old metho and put fresh metho in and it works great
I never knew metho goes off
Still took a little while to get going good, maybe wick was dried out, but has now lube up, not sure but works great
Now spending a couple of hours polishing it up, coming up nice
Sorry for moving away from the method thing but are these portable gas burners OK to use in a boat
Moppo, short answer No.
That being said they were banned, redesigned and available again. The issue as I understand it is the bottle not sealing properly. Solved by shutting down and relighting. The biggest issue is that if the pot or pan is too wide the bottle overheats and explodes. Hence the nickname Exploder.
I'll use a redesigned one in the cockpit if necassary for certain things that the maxie metho is just too slow. I never leave it unattended and monitor the bottle temperature. In the cockpit I figure I can throw the whole shebang overboard in emergency. I also only have a couple of bottles on board and check these for corrosion.
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Sorry for moving away from the method thing but are these portable gas burners OK to use in a boat
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I used one on my last yacht. I built a holder for it though and had a bracket to hold the kettle in place. They were banned as slammin mentioned but I notice Bunnings have them on special at the moment for $20 and they seem to be exactly the same. I use one at home for smoking fish and the occasional power failure! I believe the problem was with the pressed metal lever that opens the gas canister when you go to use it was faulty and this made them unsafe. If the removable grid could be made more secure and some brackets to hold it all and even pivot I see no reason why it would not make a decent primary stove or back up. Check out what the mini racers and solo sailors use. These are quite flash in comparison.
Moppo i had one on my last boat and quite liked it. When you dont feel like cooking in cabin easy to put in cockpit and cook from there
