Decided to start new thread rather than hijacking any others.
I gather there are over a million people homeless in Australia, I am not sure if there is any protection for those people if the law stumbles across them either in there car or on a park bench.
Which brings me to this question , if the Politician's had to add to the homeless figures of people living on boats then it's going to look even worse than it does now.
Also why havnt they persecuted the homeless in cars as much as they do living on boats.
AND THE BIGGEST QUESTION WHAT RIGHT DOES THE GOVERNMENT HAVE TELLING ANYONE WHERE THEY LIVE....
If anyone thinks we live in a democracy they are kidding themselves.
People around the world for hundreds of years have lived in boats , caravans and tents,
It must be the fluoride in the water that is pacifying the masses because we no longer see things like Eureka Stockade
We just keep taking it
I think you are right about Australian democracy when an ex Australian now an American media mogul dictates
who our Prime Minister can be 'Malcolm has to go' he said. And Malcolm went. What's he got over the Liberal Party
that he can do that ???. And why does the Liberal Party do his bidding ?. Sounds very sus to me.
Select to expand quoteBananabender said..
Take to General Discussion Forum.
It is about living on boats .
A government department tryed to tell me if I don't have a place to garage my car I'm homeless!
Select to expand quotesouthace said..
A government department tryed to tell me if I don't have a place to garage my car I'm homeless!
Obviously the gubberment is right, they must be cuz they de gubberment.
Select to expand quotetheselkie said..
A boat is deemed to be a residence by state housing authorities.
That's interesting cause you can get rent assistance on a boat ,
But you don't have the same rights to stop police coming aboard because it is not classed as a home because you can't live on a boat legally in Nsw so they can come aboard with out your permission .
Select to expand quotetheselkie said..
A boat is deemed to be a residence by state housing authorities.
only if its a houseboat.
(sorry)
Select to expand quotecrustysailor said..theselkie said..
A boat is deemed to be a residence by state housing authorities.
only if its a houseboat.
(sorry)
That's not correct Crusty. .
May vary from state to state, but definitely so in Qld.
No person other than the occupier has unfettered right to enter any structure, caravan or the like, tent or vessel that is being used as a residence.
Ask lydia or HaveFun. I am sure they will concur.
Select to expand quotecisco said..
No person other than the occupier has unfettered right to enter any structure, caravan or the like, tent or vessel that is being used as a residence.
Ask lydia or HaveFun. I am sure they will concur.
I thought that also but you try to stop them boarding and you are in deep sh#t
The problem is the potential for pollution. If you are living in your car you are unlikely to throw your poo out of the window next to your car. Although, I always maintain that fish don't have toilets, and nature deals with these things.
Select to expand quoteBROWNSMTRACE said..Bananabender said..
Take to General Discussion Forum.
It is about living on boats .
Some of the posts are more about politics, so best to leave personal opinions about democracy or governments/PMs etc out of it!
I did some research into this about 10 years ago when my sister bought her Valiant 40 in Bundy. I was going to skipper it south so contacted the authorities in NSW and Queensland.
Inspectors can only come aboard your boat with your invitation, UNLESS you are engaging in a criminal act. Possibly putting poo into the sea is not a criminal act, or wasn't then.
I spoke directly with the Queensland officer who managed the boating officers, who happened to be an ex Navy bloke, and he agreed that despite what their regulations say if you insist the inspector cannot come aboard they won't.
Happy to see evidence otherwise.
This is only one article there are many more you can Google ....
It is important to be aware that the QBFP inspectors have wide search powers when it comes to inspecting your boat, pursuant to the Fisheries Act 1994 and the Transport Operations (Marine Safety) Act 1994 (TOMSA). An inspector may board your boat to see whether you are complying with the Fisheries Act 1994(section 146(1) of the Fisheries Act) or complying with marine safety regulations (section 165(1) of TOMSA). An inspector does not need to have a warrant to board your boat or even a reasonable ground for suspecting that evidence may be on your boat that relates to a breach of either Act
Select to expand quoteMorningBird said..
I spoke directly with the Queensland officer who managed the boating officers, who happened to be an ex Navy bloke, and he agreed that despite what their regulations say if you insist the inspector cannot come aboard they won't.
Happy to see evidence otherwise.
This applies to Customs officials too if you are a new arrival. They have to be invited onboard. Obviously it would be silly not to invite them.
Fisheries inspectors in NSW anyway have more power than the police. They can inspect anyone's car or vessel at anytime. There was a drug bust a few years ago on a fishing family where the police tagged along with the fisheries inspectors. The fisheries inspectors were doing their thing and the police must have had an idea that drugs were involved but no evidence for a warrant.
Water police will ask to come aboard but I'm sure the rules are similar to normal police. The new gun rules for gun storage on boats have increased the chances of a visit. When your pulled over on the road by the police and they check your details on the computer all your stuff is linked. So if you have a registered boat and a registered fire arm you may get a visit.
As for living in a car I guess it would depend if it's registered or not and whether it's legally parked.
In WA, fisheries officers can enter and search any premises used as a residence, without a warrant or your permission if they suspect you have committed an offence against the Act and they have followed you from where the offence was committed.
They can enter and search a boat, car, train, aircraft anytime.
www.parliament.wa.gov.au/parliament/bills.nsf/B6335C2BC010D5224825789500080760/$File/BB204-1B.pdf
Select to expand quoteYara said..
The problem is the potential for pollution. If you are living in your car you are unlikely to throw your poo out of the window next to your car. Although, I always maintain that fish don't have toilets, and nature deals with these things.
Unless your an international visitor in a wicked van. Byron bay has a poo issue !
Select to expand quotecrustysailor said..theselkie said..
A boat is deemed to be a residence by state housing authorities.
only if its a houseboat.
(sorry)
wasn't a even passable as a Dad joke, it get it.
I lament the day "Sailing'' forum becomes more like HW
Select to expand quotecrustysailor said..crustysailor said..theselkie said..
A boat is deemed to be a residence by state housing authorities.
only if its a houseboat.
(sorry)
wasn't a even passable as a Dad joke, it get it.
I lament the day "Sailing'' forum becomes more like HW
