Hello - see the below. I will be lodging an objection please also do so yourself if you agree this is over the top.
Subject: Gladesville Bridge Marina - DA lodged - ATT Parramatta River usersGood afternoon, Please be advises the Gladesville Bridge Marina have lodged their development application. Click here to view the DA - datracking.canadabay.nsw.gov.au/Pages/XC.Track/SearchApplication.aspx?id=357587 This includes increasing the number of vessels held at the Marina from 50 to 115. More than double its existing size. As waterway users it may be of interest to you to object to the development application. Information with regards to how to object is on the flyer attached. Our website - www.savegladesvillebridgewaterway.com/ As we all know this is already a narrow stretch of the Parramatta River and this development can only cause frustration, congestion and potential risk to smaller vessel users. Warm regards, Claire Ward T 02 9816 2277M 0424 233 222W wardpartners.com.au
Your best bet is to get in the ear of the neighbors whom have the right of objection, extra traffic, parking, noise, etc. recreational waterway users have little to no sway. But good luck
thanks Woko, totally agree.
Imho there is no idea in RMS etc about the impact of worsening pinch points in the river. See here they are spending nearly $1bn to address road pinch points, yet at the same time they (and others whoever they are I don't know) are looking at an application to intentionally worse the river pinch point at Gladesville Bridge.
www.rms.nsw.gov.au/projects/easing-sydneys-congestion/pinch-point-program/index.html
As we know at the north west end of the bridge is the rock shelf dire depth issue, not to mention the obvious mast height restriction the bridge creates. RMS probably are not aware of both, being luddites and only seeing the river on a map in plan view. Surely a danger can marker should be placed off the rock shelf?
So with the river navigable channel under the bridge narrowing on the south east side under the bridge due to the mighty new 115 boat marina, the pinch point for boating / sailing use obviously narrows by the same amount.
There are speed limit signs in that area and the RMS boats have admonished infringing boats but they can't catch every cove.
Trust a safety incident doesn't occur in the future.
As far as I am aware the DA includes the cessation of the slipway activities...........I used GBM slipway services within the last year and their work was top shelf which I fed back to them in writing.
Anyway I guess that's the path of progress for the river, so it's the future and it's here now - not.........lets wake up whoever is adjudicating on this.
Suggest the NSW govt stop talking about roads around Sydney and act to put in desal plants along the coast at the required locations - at least another 4 besides the Kurnell plant, and of the capacity of the new doubling size of it, and with piping going out west - right out west.
O'Connor did the pipeline from Perth to Kalgoorlie 120yrs ago - so we can't do 4 more now? Give me a break.
museum.wa.gov.au/explore/wa-goldfields/water-arid-land/building-pipeline
I'm hearing what your saying, there's a body I believe called boat owners association or some such, that supposedly lobby on behalf of boaters, but the NSW 90 day anchoring law didn't get a look in
I tried to give them my business years ago but they were very rude and disinterested all the way so they can go to hell as far as I'm concerned. ![]()
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Your best bet is to get in the ear of the neighbors whom have the right of objection, extra traffic, parking, noise, etc. recreational waterway users have little to no sway. But good luck
Probably won't work either, sad to say. I grew up 450m up the road from GBM, or Lucas' Boatshed as it was in the 60s and 70s, and there were only 15-20 boats on swing moorings in the whole bay.
Despite any previous expansions that have been made, there has been no provision for any extra public parking, with the exception of 4-5 spaces created when council prettied up the park at the south side of the old bridge. Such a pity. ![]()
Sorry to hear of your experience sirgal. As stated we had top shelf service from GBM.
We slipped at Lucas' boat shed back in the late 70's - they also did a good job.
We hired motor boats out of Rose Bay boat shed in the 60s when the bay also was really wide open and sparsely populated with moorings.
So I am not saying that RMS must deny moorings to serious boaters who sail reasonably regularly.
Abbotsford boat shed hire is still going as far as I know.
Numerous chat lines - not this one as far as I am aware - have lampooned the old days of the hire putt putt businesses around the harbour, mocking their lack of progress.
And so we have "progressed" to where the harbour is now.........with most bays completely over-built with marinas catering for stink boats which are steered by coves who typically have no idea what they are doing and are a menace to themselves as well as all adjacent and harbour wide vessels.
I would like to ask those prior lampooners if they are happy now to have their harbour and river foreshore access now denied with such developments.
Anyway getting back to the original issue of the Gladesville Bridge Marina DA, if you look at the DA files the encroachment on the area is huge and obviously diabolical, the whole development swamps the south east end of the bridge and the bay there.
If this DA is passed the whole development with the mega height powerboats will completely swamp that area of the river and the foreshore.
Yacht racing in the area would be severely restricted even more than it has been already.
The area is a lot different to the Cabarita development - there is no bridge at Cabarita.......
So if this is your idea of progress then I respectfully defer to differ.
If it isn't then please email your strong objection as per the prior links.
Sorry to hear of your experience sirgal. As stated we had top shelf service from GBM.
We slipped at Lucas' boat shed back in the late 70's - they also did a good job.
We hired motor boats out of Rose Bay boat shed in the 60s when the bay also was really wide open and sparsely populated with moorings.
So I am not saying that RMS must deny moorings to serious boaters who sail reasonably regularly.
Abbotsford boat shed hire is still going as far as I know.
Numerous chat lines - not this one as far as I am aware - have lampooned the old days of the hire putt putt businesses around the harbour, mocking their lack of progress.
And so we have "progressed" to where the harbour is now.........with most bays completely over-built with marinas catering for stink boats which are steered by coves who typically have no idea what they are doing and are a menace to themselves as well as all adjacent and harbour wide vessels.
I would like to ask those prior lampooners if they are happy now to have their harbour and river foreshore access now denied with such developments.
Anyway getting back to the original issue of the Gladesville Bridge Marina DA, if you look at the DA files the encroachment on the area is huge and obviously diabolical, the whole development swamps the south east end of the bridge and the bay there.
If this DA is passed the whole development with the mega height powerboats will completely swamp that area of the river and the foreshore.
Yacht racing in the area would be severely restricted even more than it has been already.
The area is a lot different to the Cabarita development - there is no bridge at Cabarita.......
So if this is your idea of progress then I respectfully defer to differ.
If it isn't then please email your strong objection as per the prior links.
The development proposal map shows a large marina however it doesn't appear to exceed excessively into the chanell, most of the expansion is where the existing moorings are replaced by marina infrastructure, could be reasonably argued that it is in fact a far better use of available space. This is not the case for parking in the vicinity. I fully understand that it may not be to your liking but it does not appear to be an excessive intrusion into the chanell.
Great idea but need to tow Tassie to off Byron Bay..................
Hi r13
That would just spoil it as the snow would melt
Regards Don
Dunno what you are worried about. In the SMH the manager says ""The waterway, including the marina, is for everyone".
So, obviously since "everyone" is a pretty simple and wide term, he does NOT mean that the marina is for rich people, or for people who want to pay marina fees. "Everyone" means "everyone" so we can all get down there, tie up and use their docks, water and power - because after all, they told us so.![]()
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This will be a boon for boaties, although it may get crowded.
My boat's in Sydney at the moment; if the wind is wrong for the run back to Port Stephens when my mooring hire expires I'll just run around the corner and chuck it on the GB marina, because after all "everyone" includes tightarses like me who don't pay for marina berths.![]()
Dunno what you are worried about. In the SMH the manager says ""The waterway, including the marina, is for everyone".
So, obviously since "everyone" is a pretty simple and wide term, he does NOT mean that the marina is for rich people, or for people who want to pay marina fees. "Everyone" means "everyone" so we can all get down there, tie up and use their docks, water and power - because after all, they told us so.![]()
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This will be a boon for boaties, although it may get crowded.
My boat's in Sydney at the moment; if the wind is wrong for the run back to Port Stephens when my mooring hire expires I'll just run around the corner and chuck it on the GB marina, because after all "everyone" includes tightarses like me who don't pay for marina berths.![]()
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I worked for sir Fred many years ago, I don't know if he was Sir then but he was tight as where we we working but would throw money at pet projects and a very shrew business man, if he's offspring are anything like him and I bet they are I can't see them taking no for an answer.
Good one Chris (don't forget to fill up your diesel tank after dark while you are there........), Woko.
Yes the big end of town eh, lording over us the great unwashed on our pissant swing moorings (taking up way too much space as per Uncle....denial is not a river in Egypt...) which used to cost around $30/yr rego fee back in the 70s..............with our clapped out 6ft dinghies used to row friends out and back for a harbour day sail so as to get swamped with the wash of the prior mentioned megastink boats.......etiquette is not a town in France.
And the clapped out dinghy chained to a tree on the foreshore is now also subject to a yearly rego fee by numerous councils so as to reserve your spot.......$170/yr for residents and $450 for non-residents........give me another break.............
So more fees coming? For your trailer sailer parked outside your house? Or your car? Or.............
Good one Chris (don't forget to fill up your diesel tank after dark while you are there........), Woko.
Yes the big end of town eh, lording over us the great unwashed on our pissant swing moorings (taking up way too much space as per Uncle....denial is not a river in Egypt...) which used to cost around $30/yr rego fee back in the 70s..............with our clapped out 6ft dinghies used to row friends out and back for a harbour day sail so as to get swamped with the wash of the prior mentioned megastink boats.......etiquette is not a town in France.
And the clapped out dinghy chained to a tree on the foreshore is now also subject to a yearly rego fee by numerous councils so as to reserve your spot.......$170/yr for residents and $450 for non-residents........give me another break.............
So more fees coming? For your trailer sailer parked outside your house? Or your car? Or.............
Sport, every coin has two sides and for what it is worth civility and politeness cost nothing but are priceless.
The great unwashed maybe, gentlemen I also new of that era gave me the opinion that my former employer didn't go to war and made a packet taxiing Yankee soldiers around Sydney, to sight see no doubt ! anyway I'm just repeating hear say from diggers since gone rip
A bit late to the thread, but there is a pretty active movement mobilised around Drummoyne with locals active against the expansion. The owners of Ocean Foods on Lyons Rd have billboards and other materials if you want information on how to participate.