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GPS replacement

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Created by Kankama > 9 months ago, 9 Jun 2020
Kankama
NSW, 791 posts
9 Jun 2020 11:17AM
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Gday all
I hope you are all having a good day and want to ask the experienced throng about a very slight dilemma I am having.

My Garmin 128 GPS has a dead screen. I really like the simple old style GPS with the road you steer down, the course setting like a compass and the MOB function. I have a tablet running Navionics and a computer running OpenCPN but the old GPS would act as a log and compass and never had any computer issues - it was either on or off.

I can't replace the trusty thing. They don't make stand alone GPS any more. I don't need a plotter and I don't want to depend on a complex computer - I love Navionics and OpenCPN but they run on slightly untrustworthy computers (My computers are fine - just sometimes the computers I know will decide to go on strike - sometimes at inopportune times) . I was thinking of just putting a handheld unit in the space where the 128 sits and plugging it into the 12 volt system. Any advice as to the merits of this?

cheers

Phil

Ilenart
WA, 250 posts
9 Jun 2020 12:29PM
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I find the handheld units' screens to small to see properly. Thats why I switched to a Garmin 420 GPS in my last yacht. Pain that they are no longer available. Looks like some of the Garmin handheld units are pretty expensive.

From a quick search this looks like the cheapest GPS unit around with a decent size screen. One good thing is that B&G are compatible with OpenCPN so you can connect and transfer all the log data to your computer. I have a 8 year old B&G chartplotter on my current yacht and it works fine. B&G support is better than Garmin.

www.whitworths.com.au/b-g-vulcan-7-chartplotter-display

Ilenart

LooseChange
NSW, 2140 posts
9 Jun 2020 4:32PM
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Kankama said..
Gday all
I hope you are all having a good day and want to ask the experienced throng about a very slight dilemma I am having.

My Garmin 128 GPS has a dead screen. I really like the simple old style GPS with the road you steer down, the course setting like a compass and the MOB function. I have a tablet running Navionics and a computer running OpenCPN but the old GPS would act as a log and compass and never had any computer issues - it was either on or off.

I can't replace the trusty thing. They don't make stand alone GPS any more. I don't need a plotter and I don't want to depend on a complex computer - I love Navionics and OpenCPN but they run on slightly untrustworthy computers (My computers are fine - just sometimes the computers I know will decide to go on strike - sometimes at inopportune times) . I was thinking of just putting a handheld unit in the space where the 128 sits and plugging it into the 12 volt system. Any advice as to the merits of this?

cheers

Phil


Try talking to the guys at Johnny Appleseed I have found them to be helpful and knowledgeable. www.ja-gps.com.au/

Harb
WA, 226 posts
9 Jun 2020 5:25PM
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Would an ap like this do the job ?
play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tinygarage.saildroid&hl=en_AU

All you'd need would be an old Android smartphone , tablet or similar with built-in GPS and you'd have a choice of screens from 5" to 10.1" or more. Just don't fall overboard, at least until they include MOB.

Ramona
NSW, 7737 posts
10 Jun 2020 8:19AM
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The old line you steer down is still the best way. Buy a real stand-alone GPS with all the traditional features.

www.chsmith.com.au/Products/Furuno-GP-39-GPS-Receiver.html?gclid=CjwKCAjw5vz2BRAtEiwAbcVIL1NOAqwIwkaTCT9KG7zjFPT2VKPm78mQ8wGCXTU1cxLPI3rXkLE7MBoC4yoQAvD_BwE

Ramona
NSW, 7737 posts
10 Jun 2020 8:23AM
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The old line you steer down is still the best way. Buy a real stand-alone GPS with all the traditional features.

www.chsmith.com.au/Products/Furuno-GP-39-GPS-Receiver.html?gclid=CjwKCAjw5vz2BRAtEiwAbcVIL1NOAqwIwkaTCT9KG7zjFPT2VKPm78mQ8wGCXTU1cxLPI3rXkLE7MBoC4yoQAvD_BwE

Ramona
NSW, 7737 posts
10 Jun 2020 8:39AM
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The old line you steer down is still the best way. Buy a real stand-alone GPS with all the traditional features.

www.chsmith.com.au/Products/Furuno-GP-39-GPS-Receiver.html?gclid=CjwKCAjw5vz2BRAtEiwAbcVIL1NOAqwIwkaTCT9KG7zjFPT2VKPm78mQ8wGCXTU1cxLPI3rXkLE7MBoC4yoQAvD_BwE

Kankama
NSW, 791 posts
10 Jun 2020 10:09AM
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Thanks for the advice. It seems like I have to pay as much for an old type GPS as a small plotter. Oh well, probably back to using the handheld in the cockpit with the tablet on the bulkhead and computer inside (I can see inside the catamaran's cabin fine from the helm, and who is on the helm for long anyway offshore?")

cheers

Phil

UncleBob
NSW, 1301 posts
10 Jun 2020 10:13AM
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Would this be of interest?
www.gme.net.au/media/469550/GP450X_b_web.pdf

Kankama
NSW, 791 posts
10 Jun 2020 5:55PM
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Thanks Bob - that would be just the ticket but it is discontinued! Uggh. I would have thought I could get a simple GPS for less than a plotter. Maybe there is a GME GPS lurking somewhere but I can't find one.

plev
QLD, 181 posts
10 Jun 2020 6:28PM
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How about:- buy.garmin.com/en-AU/AU/p/87768

PLEV

Cabron
QLD, 363 posts
10 Jun 2020 8:40PM
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Stand alone GPS get a BU-353, plug into your PC with OpenCPN, use a Wifi router to Output to your tablet to save battery usage on Tablet.
With on board PC's, use for Navigation and nothing else, no surfing net etc, and don't load updates, it should remain stable. I use a little mini PC from Kogan, 12v, 1.5A Win10, and small, works like a dream.

DAMA
QLD, 239 posts
10 Jun 2020 9:22PM
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Bad elf GPS

bad-elf.com/pages/be-gps-1008-detail

Kankama
NSW, 791 posts
10 Jun 2020 9:32PM
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Thanks for the tips I will follow them up. The handheld idea is probably not going to fly - because I am 53 and I sometimes need glasses. I checked with my Garmin 72 handheld and it is pretty small.

I like the idea of getting a dedicated tablet and not using it for anything for anything but navigation - no updates - they drive me mad. I am a teacher and have sat in front of a class doing some rapping at the class whilst the PC decides to do an update for 15 minutes. Quite aggravating.

cisco
QLD, 12364 posts
10 Jun 2020 11:42PM
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Is this not good enough?? It has 12volt plug in and data out.

buy.garmin.com/en-AU/AU/p/38309

Kankama
NSW, 791 posts
11 Jun 2020 6:56AM
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Thanks Cisco - I was thinking of one - I have a Garmin 72 - but I would rather not need glasses to read the numbers and I can't see the handheld's numbers that well in poor light.

Ramona
NSW, 7737 posts
11 Jun 2020 8:35AM
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The other option is to update your VHF to one of the fully featured items with AIS and GPS. The downside is the numbers are small and these units have a surprisingly heavy current draw. Could plug in a USB to a larger screen though.

The ideal though is to find a secondhand Furuno GP-32



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