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Engine hours!

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Created by southace > 9 months ago, 25 May 2016
southace
SA, 4794 posts
25 May 2016 5:45PM
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After over 12 months since buying my Adams 42 I have done the first oil change on the Pekins Prima.
Acording to the survey i dug out today Engine hours @ 1249,39 and today the engine hours are 1249.39!
So now I get it Why only the date was put onto the oil filter not the hours.
Now have no clue on what the Donk has done.
i have been logging the same engine hours for the past approx 100 hours!
how do I make my engine hour taco work again?
primary and secondary fuel filters tomorrow !
boats are so much fun!

aus005
TAS, 514 posts
25 May 2016 6:26PM
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buy a new one

Bruski068
VIC, 457 posts
25 May 2016 6:27PM
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You most likely need a new cable from the tacometer to the gearbox( I think that's where it goes but that's from memory, and my memory isn't as good as it once was). someone may correct me on that if I'm misremembering. Or it could be the little widget that goes into the gearbox that attaches to the taco cable.

southace
SA, 4794 posts
25 May 2016 6:03PM
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might be the cause from my raw water pump dripping onto back of gear box which just cost $580 to repair. Should be just on the ignition switch....would be more reliable! I will check the hurst gearbox in the morning.

SandS
VIC, 5904 posts
25 May 2016 7:43PM
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Just as a matter of interest SA . How many HP is the engine on the Adams ,what is the weight of the yacht ? and does the engine push her along OK ?





Toph
WA, 1870 posts
25 May 2016 5:45PM
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My attitude is I would rather a high time engine with regular maintenance then a low time engine with little or irregular maintenance.

If I was to buy your tub after you where done with it and you said the VDO hadn't been working for years, I wouldn't be overly perturbed (unless ALL your maintenance is DIY)

southace
SA, 4794 posts
25 May 2016 7:18PM
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11 t , 42 foot , 59bhp / 44 kw engine ....... Wrong prop but still well powered.... Why SandS

SandS
VIC, 5904 posts
25 May 2016 8:02PM
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southace said..
11 t , 42 foot , 59bhp / 44 kw engine ....... Wrong prop but still well powered.... Why SandS



thanks SA ........... i,m interested in ton to HP matches, to evaluate, for future decisions .







southace
SA, 4794 posts
25 May 2016 7:34PM
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I wouldnt tell you This is not not working Troph I didn't think about it.. The surveyor wrote down the hours... I'm silly i never seen any change until I now have gone through my log and starred at the gauge for a hour!

ChopesBro
351 posts
25 May 2016 6:21PM
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Toph said...
My attitude is I would rather a high time engine with regular maintenance then a low time engine with little or irregular maintenance.

If I was to buy your tub after you where done with it and you said the VDO hadn't been working for years, I wouldn't be overly perturbed (unless ALL your maintenance is DIY)


I agree....I would always prefer a well serviced well used motor over one with little use and maintenance

cisco
QLD, 12361 posts
26 May 2016 12:43AM
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What I do is log my engine hours in my log book along with all other events and maintenance actions, as required for a vessel in survey even though my vessel is not in survey and my vessel usage is recreational and not commercial.

It is an ingrained habit from many years of commercial operation of vessels.

I am averse to relying on FREDS. Frigging Ridiculous Electronic Devices.

southace
SA, 4794 posts
26 May 2016 6:11AM
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Ok so rip out all those ridiculous electronic devices guys! Mines actually analoge . I will use a stop watch from now on!

shaggybaxter
QLD, 2637 posts
26 May 2016 6:47AM
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SandS said...
southace said..
11 t , 42 foot , 59bhp / 44 kw engine ....... Wrong prop but still well powered.... Why SandS



thanks SA ........... i,m interested in ton to HP matches, to evaluate, for future decisions .











Hi SandS,
Me too. Mine is 5.5t,40ft, 30hp. I was tossing up a 40hp, and the builder talked me out of it.
I feel like I have a toy one compared to SA!

Windjana
WA, 405 posts
26 May 2016 5:11AM
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Everytime I fill up the diesel (and I mean FILL UP) I write down the engine hours, you can see straight away if the hours aren't changing. Or of course you might think you are using 200 litres of diesel and gone nowhere!

FreeRadical
WA, 855 posts
26 May 2016 6:04AM
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Its most likely the plastic gears on the hour meter that have gone. Cheap solution is to get a separate hour meter running off the ignition, will cost about $20.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/12-36V-DC-AC-Round-Quartz-Hour-Meter-Gauge-for-Car-Boat-Truck-Marine-Engine-/131505562364

As per Cisco, we maintain a detailed log book. Record every trip, even day trips, engine hours, all maintenance, fuel/oil added, everything.

www.whitworths.com.au/main_itemdetail.asp?cat=113&item=10075&intAbsolutePage=1

PhoenixStar
QLD, 477 posts
26 May 2016 8:31AM
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FreeRadical said..
Its most likely the plastic gears on the hour meter that have gone. Cheap solution is to get a separate hour meter running off the ignition, will cost about $20.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/12-36V-DC-AC-Round-Quartz-Hour-Meter-Gauge-for-Car-Boat-Truck-Marine-Engine-/131505562364

As per Cisco, we maintain a detailed log book. Record every trip, even day trips, engine hours, all maintenance, fuel/oil added, everything.

www.whitworths.com.au/main_itemdetail.asp?cat=113&item=10075&intAbsolutePage=1


Got a quote to replace a tacho on a Yanmar because the hour meter led wasn't working, $800, so I got one of those cheap Chinese hour meters and it worked perfectly.

southace
SA, 4794 posts
26 May 2016 10:20AM
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Yes I have 9 years of logbooks for my private sailing vessels also using log books on a number of commercial motor and sail vessels for the past 7 years.

I usually put the engine hours before departure and then on arrivals which gives me a total for each passage for service and fuel purposes.

Since I brought my Adams 42 I have Been only logging the hours prior to departure and knowing I will be roughly due for a service around the 12 months since ownership as the filter was dated just before my purchace.
It wasn't until yesterday I was curious to see how many hours I have done in the past 12 months which is when I discovered my next Perkins engine fault!

i can dig out all 9 logbooks and some 60,000 nm if you would like looksy? :)


SailPlan
NSW, 37 posts
26 May 2016 11:06AM
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"I usually put the engine hours before departure and then on arrivals which gives me a total for each passage for service and fuel purposes. Since I brought my Adams 42 I have Been only logging the hours prior to departure"

Maybe I'm missing something, but if you recorded the engine hours before each trip, surely writing the same 1249.39 down each time would have registered? After about three recordings, I'd have thought: "Mmm, that rings a bell..."

southace
SA, 4794 posts
26 May 2016 10:52AM
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Let's just say I don't have a photographic memory also as I use a day by day yearly log the days go by since my last passage log and I don't go back to check my last engine hours recorded. I had made a mental note that I haven't hit 1300hrs and I was assuming it should roll over soon.

FreeRadical
WA, 855 posts
26 May 2016 6:35PM
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PhoenixStar said..
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FreeRadical said..
Its most likely the plastic gears on the hour meter that have gone. Cheap solution is to get a separate hour meter running off the ignition, will cost about $20.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/12-36V-DC-AC-Round-Quartz-Hour-Meter-Gauge-for-Car-Boat-Truck-Marine-Engine-/131505562364

As per Cisco, we maintain a detailed log book. Record every trip, even day trips, engine hours, all maintenance, fuel/oil added, everything.

www.whitworths.com.au/main_itemdetail.asp?cat=113&item=10075&intAbsolutePage=1



Got a quote to replace a tacho on a Yanmar because the hour meter led wasn't working, $800, so I got one of those cheap Chinese hour meters and it worked perfectly.


The LCD meters on tachos are notorious for failing after a few years. Apparently due to the silicon becoming conductive.

There is an article on fixing it. Interestingly, the hours still accumulate.

www.cruisersforum.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=103327&d=1433685138

Our meter had failed and we went on a good regular service history pre-purchase, we added a cheap hour meter post purchase for servicing.




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