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Does Metho go off over time

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Created by Bundeenabuoy > 9 months ago, 13 Apr 2020
Bundeenabuoy
NSW, 1239 posts
13 Apr 2020 7:19AM
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I have found a number of litres of metho on my boat.
I suspect they are a number of years old.
Can I still use it in my methods stove?

shaggybaxter
QLD, 2661 posts
13 Apr 2020 8:02AM
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HI BB,
I would. Metho evaporates when left open, so if its still in the bottle I'd say its fine.

Bundeenabuoy
NSW, 1239 posts
13 Apr 2020 8:52AM
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shaggybaxter said..
HI BB,
I would. Metho evaporates when left open, so if its still in the bottle I'd say its fine.


great mate

troubadour
NSW, 334 posts
13 Apr 2020 11:22AM
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Thats liquid gold at the moment. Coles hasn't had any for weeks.

RubikRedDog
WA, 29 posts
13 Apr 2020 1:04PM
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Barrel aged 2 year old metho? What's not to like?

FabulousPhill
VIC, 321 posts
13 Apr 2020 8:42PM
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I would use it.
Metho is about 96% ethanol, and 4% methanol as a poison, with a taste inhibitor, so we don't drink it.
I would think if it smells like metho, then it is OK to use.
I am not a chemist, but suspect that like wine, when it is exposed to air some evaporates, but the rest oxidises and becomes acetic acid (vinegar). Wikipedia or a chemist would explain it better, but I'd use it in the metho stove.

jbarnes85
VIC, 297 posts
13 Apr 2020 10:28PM
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Tested an old metho stove today with a very very very old bottle of metho. Worked fine.

boty
QLD, 685 posts
14 Apr 2020 8:56AM
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ok if in the bottle but if you leave it in the stove it absorbs moisture and doesn't burn as hot thats why you use it to dry out damp timber its hydroscopic

Azure305
NSW, 402 posts
14 Apr 2020 2:48PM
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jbarnes85 said..
Tested an old metho stove today with a very very very old bottle of metho. Worked fine.



I tested an old mug today with a very very very old bottle of metho. Tasted fine.

UncleBob
NSW, 1302 posts
15 Apr 2020 3:28PM
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AzureF305 said..

jbarnes85 said..
Tested an old metho stove today with a very very very old bottle of metho. Worked fine.




I tested an old mug today with a very very very old bottle of metho. Tasted fine.


Would probably be even better with lime and soda.

Poodle
WA, 867 posts
15 Apr 2020 5:42PM
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UncleBob said..

AzureF305 said..


jbarnes85 said..
Tested an old metho stove today with a very very very old bottle of metho. Worked fine.





I tested an old mug today with a very very very old bottle of metho. Tasted fine.



Would probably be even better with lime and soda.


Metho & tang

Craig66
NSW, 2466 posts
15 Apr 2020 7:51PM
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Bundeenabuoy said..
I have found a number of litres of metho on my boat.
I suspect they are a number of years old.
Can I still use it in my methods stove?


I need to ask.

You found a flammable liquid on your boat that you didn't know was there?

Is it just me or did anyone else pick up on the danger of this?

PS Poodle, metho and Tang, sounds like a NASA joke I once heard about 7up and a dash of Teachers

sunycoastguy
QLD, 223 posts
16 Apr 2020 8:29PM
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I had really old metho in my stove maybe 7 years old and it went off, had a lot of troubles with stove until i decided to replace metho, fresh metho worked wonders

LooseChange
NSW, 2140 posts
17 Apr 2020 10:53AM
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Metho does not go off, it does one of two things 1. it either evaporates or 2. it absorbs water to the point where it is no longer a viable fuel. The second condition is met in fuel tank that has a small vent in in it causing air to pump in and out according to atmospheric conditions.

Ethanol (which is what metho is mainly) generally has an ABV of 95%, the other 5% being water assuming it is kept in a sealed container. When exposed to air and depending on ambient humidity it soaks up water like a sponge. Ethanol is an azeotrope meaning you cannot get 100% purity unless distilled under a vacuum, but the moment the vacuum seal is broken it reverts back to being an azeotropic mixture.

If you have old metho just test it by setting it alight in a small metal can in a safe spot in the open.

Metho is commonly used to remove excess water from petrol tanks due to its ability soak and hold that water in suspension.



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