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Do you think this add should be taken down

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Created by Bananabender > 9 months ago, 18 Jan 2018
FreeRadical
WA, 855 posts
18 Jan 2018 1:03PM
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Maybe just change location to Bass Strait somewhere and add "buyer to collect", "inspection via Bathysphere".

Jethrow
NSW, 1276 posts
18 Jan 2018 6:20PM
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There's a thread on Sailing Anarchy showing it tied up in Eden after a salvage op.
Might change the add to "as is where is"

Bananabender
QLD, 1610 posts
18 Jan 2018 7:31PM
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Jethrow said..
There's a thread on Sailing Anarchy showing it tied up in Eden after a salvage op.
Might change the add to "as is where is"


Well the add does say make an offer
$10?

Cav30
NSW, 121 posts
19 Jan 2018 8:11AM
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AN effort to salvage Sydney to Hobart yacht Hollywood Boulevard is continuing east of Flinders Island. It was initially thought that the famous yacht sank in the Bass Strait after suffering damage in a collision with a large sunfish. However, the boat's owner Ray Roberts told the Mercury that a salvage ...

Thats all i could read from the Mercury without having to subscribe.

Good news they are trying to salvage.

So it still might be for sale.

Quick buff up with a polisher she should be fine. ;-)

sydchris
NSW, 387 posts
19 Jan 2018 8:25AM
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A work in progress...

Cav30
NSW, 121 posts
19 Jan 2018 10:17AM
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Not quite sure I follow what happened to HB.

Did it sink? If it didn't then why did they abandon ship?

The rescue footage shows HB afloat and as far as I could see it 'looked' seaworthy.

Easy to say from my comfy seat at work.

patto1987
NSW, 194 posts
19 Jan 2018 5:23PM
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I read somewhere earlier that the fishing boat that salvaged it had to seal a significant leak and pump the boat out to refloat it...

i think the article said it was nose down into the water with the rudders up in the air..

Jethrow
NSW, 1276 posts
19 Jan 2018 7:05PM
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Cav30 said..
Not quite sure I follow what happened to HB.

Did it sink? If it didn't then why did they abandon ship?

The rescue footage shows HB afloat and as far as I could see it 'looked' seaworthy.

Easy to say from my comfy seat at work.


If you read the story, the helicopters had to refuel to get to them. They were in an offshore breeze heading for NZ and night was coming. Basically, the gov said get off now or see what happens. Actually, more like get off NOW!

Kankama
NSW, 792 posts
20 Jan 2018 7:29AM
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I am concerned that they broadcast a Mayday. This seems to have led to the crew being forced to evacuate. The skipper should have broadcast a Pan Pan message and then would have had more options. A Mayday is used in imminent danger, and seeing as the boat floated with no crew, the danger was not imminent. The worrying part of this is that this story shows that some boaters are not self sufficient and do need close supervision. I love the idea that we can go offshore in our boats free from zealous government oversight
But this story makes it harder to defend the line that we are all responsible and self reliant on all but the most exceptional circumstances.

Jode5
QLD, 853 posts
20 Jan 2018 7:12AM
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Kankama said..
I am concerned that they broadcast a Mayday. This seems to have led to the crew being forced to evacuate. The skipper should have broadcast a Pan Pan message and then would have had more options. A Mayday is used in imminent danger, and seeing as the boat floated with no crew, the danger was not imminent. The worrying part of this is that this story shows that some boaters are not self sufficient and do need close supervision. I love the idea that we can go offshore in our boats free from zealous government oversight
But this story makes it harder to defend the line that we are all responsible and self reliant on all but the most exceptional circumstances.


In my opinion the skipper made the correct call.
1. The skipper is responsible for the rest of the crew.
2, The boat is totally disabled and filling with water. Who knows if it will stop.
3. Condition were not good with a low developing in the Tasman.
4. There is no need to endanger crew waiting to see if the boat sinks.
5. When it come to safety the words "Should be OK" are not in my vocabulary. By calling May Day it means all the crew will be O K.
6. At ocean race briefings AMSA tell you never be afraid to call May Day. Better to be safe than sorry.
It's great to know we live in a country that if we get into trouble, someone will help use to safety at no cost.
This incident could have all gone wrong. Good call skipper.

shaggybaxter
QLD, 2662 posts
20 Jan 2018 7:48AM
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Jode5 said..

Kankama said..
I am concerned that they broadcast a Mayday. This seems to have led to the crew being forced to evacuate. The skipper should have broadcast a Pan Pan message and then would have had more options. A Mayday is used in imminent danger, and seeing as the boat floated with no crew, the danger was not imminent. The worrying part of this is that this story shows that some boaters are not self sufficient and do need close supervision. I love the idea that we can go offshore in our boats free from zealous government oversight
But this story makes it harder to defend the line that we are all responsible and self reliant on all but the most exceptional circumstances.



In my opinion the skipper made the correct call.
1. The skipper is responsible for the rest of the crew.
2, The boat is totally disabled and filling with water. Who knows if it will stop.
3. Condition were not good with a low developing in the Tasman.
4. There is no need to endanger crew waiting to see if the boat sinks.
5. When it come to safety the words "Should be OK" are not in my vocabulary. By calling May Day it means all the crew will be O K.
6. At ocean race briefings AMSA tell you never be afraid to call May Day. Better to be safe than sorry.
It's great to know we live in a country that if we get into trouble, someone will help use to safety at no cost.
This incident could have all gone wrong. Good call skipper.


Yes. For me it's this..safety, safety, safety. Imagine explaining to a coroner that even though the boat was holed after an impact, with the crew reporting of struggling to stop the ingress that "she'll be right" was a justifiable position.
It's hard enough making rational decisions when things go to poo, so a decision erring toward safety? Well done. The crew are alive, that's everything right there.


FreeRadical
WA, 855 posts
20 Jan 2018 9:43AM
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It's easy to upgrade a PAN to a MAYDAY, not easy to downgrade from a MAYDAY.

I would first make a PAN call unless the boat is going down fast. Gives you more time to assess the situation, try to stop leak, assess ingress rate etc, but alerts authorities to your plight. I would do this as soon as you knew the problem was serious. They would start planning about what assets could be used to help you (helicopters, other vessels etc).

A PAN call gives the skipper more options and more control over the situation. You could keep the PAN Alert open as long as you want, even after stemming the leak and making your way towards port.

Once you go MAYDAY, that's it, they are coming to get you off.

i think there is too much of an all or nothing mentality out there, the PAN call gets kind of neglected, when it is actually a very good option as a first response to a developing situation.

Kankama
NSW, 792 posts
21 Jan 2018 8:36AM
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If we call Mayday straight away we lose any ability to be subtle or on charge of the situation. With the boat floating unattended we can tell that the boat was not sinking but taking on water. This should be a Pan situation. Rescued authorities and other boats would treat this very seriously but the crew would be on charge or at least able to work out the best optionm including airlifting the crew if that is best.
Less safe than a Mayday? Not at all, in fact the last thing I want is a unwieldy ship diverted my way when I require extra pumps brought out or a tow from a rescue boat hours away. If I can hold on till then that may be safer than a mid sea transfer. But if you call Mayday, they are coming to get you. Which is something we can all agree is nice about our country.

Cav30
NSW, 121 posts
22 Jan 2018 9:01AM
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www.edenmagnet.com.au/story/5175494/rescue-role-for-eden/?cs=5771

So it did not sink.



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