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Columbia 22?

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Created by Mike367 > 9 months ago, 8 Jun 2020
Mike367
VIC, 150 posts
8 Jun 2020 1:08PM
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Hi everyone

Anyone know much about these boats?

www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/metung/sail-boats/yacht-22-ft-columbia/1243099574

(sorry, I don't know how to copy a clickable link)

Apparently the are "midget ocean racers", according to google. So if that's true she would be good for coastal sailing and more, yes?

It's a nice looking little boat from the outside, but the inside?
Might be good for a couple of years for me to learn on and get some experience. Though the price tag means it probably needs a fair bit of work.

I'm looking at my options and all imput is welcome.

Cheers,

Mike.

Bananabender
QLD, 1610 posts
8 Jun 2020 2:06PM
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Columbia 22 was built by International Marine Scoresby Melb. ,now called Caribbean along side
Columbia 27 , 34 and the Bertram range of motor yachts.
High quality build ( not to a price) and with high disp./ ballast ratio of around 50% ,great for family to learn how to sail and potter around in .
There are a lot of faster 22 footers .
With the high freeboard it would have the largest interior of any 22 footer . Reminiscent of a mini Columbia 34.
International made some adjustments to the US version to suit our conditions.
Don't know about it being a mini Ocean anything with only an outboard .
Remember its an old boat now so check it out thoroughly .

garymalmgren
1365 posts
8 Jun 2020 1:24PM
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Brand new 6hp Yamaha 4-Stroke.
New halyards & sheets, and life lines.

With those two items out of the way, I don't see this one as a money drain.
The photo shows her on a slip having the bottom done.
It would be prudent to ask when that was.

Otherwise, Good solid boat. Good price.
Worth a drive down to have a look that's for sure.

gary

r13
NSW, 1714 posts
8 Jun 2020 5:24PM
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That looks great in the photos, and excellent value. The Columbia yachts were known for being built like a brick outhouse. The midget ocean racer terminology came out of the MORC (midget ocean racer club) rating system in the US at the time. So they are "moderate ocean" capable............

www.baltimoresun.com/news/bs-xpm-1991-02-03-9113001121-story.html

Google "columbia 22 restoration" or columbia 22 refit" and at least 5 sites will come up - some with excellent detail and photos.

Note that there is a Col22 for sale in Tas for $13.5K - at least it comes up on google not sure if it is still for sale.

As expected the interior photos shown in the advert indicate a tad of varnish needs to be splashed around onto completely sanded back timber - so what. The interior in the photos looks clean and cared for.

Suggest check;

the condition and age of the standing rigging,
the cabin sag under the deck stepped mast - if there is any. Easily fixed with beefing up the under mast support system with ply sandwich doublers each side of the existing support bulkhead.
Lift the floorboards and check the keel bolts - they are threaded into the cast iron keel. One of the restoration sites has extensive details of keel bolt renewal using grade 8.8 bolts.
Chainplates, and their bolts, also bulkhead in that area - hopefully no water has got in to rot the ply. Again this can be fixed......

As above well worth viewing and soon.

Mike367
VIC, 150 posts
9 Jun 2020 8:53PM
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Thanks guys, the owner says...."She is great on the lakes, but I wouldn't take her coastal sailing"
And thats what I want to do as part of my learning, plus how else to get her to one of the bays?
Its a shame as I really liked the look of her, and there aren't too many for sale down here I like that suitable.

Ramona
NSW, 7737 posts
10 Jun 2020 8:02AM
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Mike367 said..
Thanks guys, the owner says...."She is great on the lakes, but I wouldn't take her coastal sailing"
And thats what I want to do as part of my learning, plus how else to get her to one of the bays?
Its a shame as I really liked the look of her, and there aren't too many for sale down here I like that suitable.


These boats were built in the thousands in the USA and I've seen a lot of them sailing in Hawaii. Whereas Australians generally start sailing dinghies, Americans sail these sort of yachts as daysailers. They would be just as seaworthy as Hood 23's or Endeavour 24's.

twodogs1969
NSW, 1000 posts
10 Jun 2020 8:13AM
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For that type of money you could pick up a folk boat or an endeavour 26 or maybe a Holland 25 these would suit you better.

Mike367
VIC, 150 posts
10 Jun 2020 12:01PM
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Ramona said..

Mike367 said..
Thanks guys, the owner says...."She is great on the lakes, but I wouldn't take her coastal sailing"
And thats what I want to do as part of my learning, plus how else to get her to one of the bays?
Its a shame as I really liked the look of her, and there aren't too many for sale down here I like that suitable.



These boats were built in the thousands in the USA and I've seen a lot of them sailing in Hawaii. Whereas Australians generally start sailing dinghies, Americans sail these sort of yachts as daysailers. They would be just as seaworthy as Hood 23's or Endeavour 24's.


So she be fine on the vic coastline?

Mike367
VIC, 150 posts
10 Jun 2020 12:05PM
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twodogs1969 said..
For that type of money you could pick up a folk boat or an endeavour 26 or maybe a Holland 25 these would suit you better.


It's Slim pickings down here in Victoria and it's a long sail from Sydney.

twodogs1969
NSW, 1000 posts
10 Jun 2020 12:59PM
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Mike367 said..



twodogs1969 said..
For that type of money you could pick up a folk boat or an endeavour 26 or maybe a Holland 25 these would suit you better.





It's Slim pickings down here in Victoria and it's a long sail from Sydney.




www.boatsonline.com.au/boats-for-sale/used/trailer-boats/south-coast-25/245354
This has just sold down there Would be better so they do exist


Here is an endeavour 26

Used Endeavour 26 Restored With All The Gear. for Sale | Yachts For Sale | Yachthub yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/endeavour-26-restored-with-all-the-gear/245469

Mike367
VIC, 150 posts
10 Jun 2020 2:16PM
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I missed the south coast 25, I don't usually look to closely at trailer sailors. Maybe I should in future.

I've looked at Bojangles and from memory I have it marked as needing work.
I'll take another look after work.

Thanks for that.



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