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Chartering own boat in and around Sydney harbour

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Created by driftwood > 9 months ago, 13 Dec 2017
driftwood
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13 Dec 2017 12:42PM
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Hello seabreezers,
I'm doing some research on owner boat chartering.
In Sydney harbour and surrounds,
My yacht of interest is a 45 catamaran.
Vacancy rates..
Is it worth it,any pitfalls to look out for? Ect,ect
Any info would be much appreciated.
PS ,I'm new to this,so please go easy on me!

UncleBob
NSW, 1304 posts
13 Dec 2017 4:03PM
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driftwood said..
Hello seabreezers,
I'm doing some research on owner boat chartering.
In Sydney harbour and surrounds,
My yacht of interest is a 45 catamaran.
Vacancy rates..
Is it worth it,any pitfalls to look out for? Ect,ect
Any info would be much appreciated.
PS ,I'm new to this,so please go easy on me!


Survey, tickets, licencing and insurance's to name a few. Don't have all the ducks lined up and maritime WILL eat you alive.
Otherwise, good luck.

driftwood
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13 Dec 2017 2:20PM
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UncleBob said..

driftwood said..
Hello seabreezers,
I'm doing some research on owner boat chartering.
In Sydney harbour and surrounds,
My yacht of interest is a 45 catamaran.
Vacancy rates..
Is it worth it,any pitfalls to look out for? Ect,ect
Any info would be much appreciated.
PS ,I'm new to this,so please go easy on me!



Survey, tickets, licencing and insurance's to name a few. Don't have all the ducks lined up and maritime WILL eat you alive.
Otherwise, good luck.


Thank you uncle Bob
On the checklist.

twodogs1969
NSW, 1000 posts
13 Dec 2017 5:28PM
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driftwood said..
Hello seabreezers,
I'm doing some research on owner boat chartering.
In Sydney harbour and surrounds,
My yacht of interest is a 45 catamaran.
Vacancy rates..
Is it worth it,any pitfalls to look out for? Ect,ect
Any info would be much appreciated.
PS ,I'm new to this,so please go easy on me!


Busy this time of year nothing during winter.

driftwood
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13 Dec 2017 3:17PM
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twodogs1969 said..

driftwood said..
Hello seabreezers,
I'm doing some research on owner boat chartering.
In Sydney harbour and surrounds,
My yacht of interest is a 45 catamaran.
Vacancy rates..
Is it worth it,any pitfalls to look out for? Ect,ect
Any info would be much appreciated.
PS ,I'm new to this,so please go easy on me!



Busy this time of year nothing during winter.


Yes,figured that
Id like to know what average vacancy rates are per month,if there is any.....
Thanks twodogs 1969
Great year ,was born then

nswsailor
NSW, 1458 posts
13 Dec 2017 9:28PM
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Any boats in survey are usually built to survey, hard to do after being built for non commercial use.

Ramona
NSW, 7744 posts
14 Dec 2017 7:22AM
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The biggest problem is always the turkeys you will have to deal with. You will get to meet some interesting people!

MorningBird
NSW, 2704 posts
14 Dec 2017 8:15AM
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nswsailor said..
Any boats in survey are usually built to survey, hard to do after being built for non commercial use.


I went through this process of survey after build. For example, the authorities will need to cut two 30cm holes in the hull to assess the structure. If your boat wasn't built to survey it isn't worth it.

Ramona
NSW, 7744 posts
14 Dec 2017 8:56AM
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If there are boats from the same manufacturer of exactly the same design already in survey then core samples from fibreglass hulls may not be required. As always it depends a lot on who you deal with. There are only a handful of MSB surveyors and they need boats in survey to keep their jobs. Commercial fishing vessel numbers have fallen drastically and so have fishing charter boats. They need new people to torture!

boty
QLD, 685 posts
14 Dec 2017 8:13AM
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even if the boat is built to survey and it has lapsed under the new amsa rules the vessel must comply with the new legislation this means a complete rebuild a full set of survey plans 30 footer about $ 20000 more than likely new tanks and fuel supply increased safety gear and that is if she meets stability and flooded compartment rules
bringing an existing boat to survey is more expensive than building new unless the planets align fiberglass is very hard because of records of laminating steel is the easiest timber not to bad but problems with tanks(must be bunded)
BUY IN EXISTING SURVEY FOR THE REQUIRED PURPOSE otherwise expect massive bills
still expect massive bills

EC31
NSW, 490 posts
14 Dec 2017 9:46AM
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Just stick an UBER sticker on your stern.

driftwood
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14 Dec 2017 7:03AM
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EC31 said..
Just stick an UBER sticker on your stern.


driftwood
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14 Dec 2017 7:09AM
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I think a new build ,to current charter requirements is the easiest way to go.
Thanks guys for all your input
If you all know how many day's annually a 45 feet cat would be chartered for,and $$ annually gross return,that would be a starting point.

boty
QLD, 685 posts
14 Dec 2017 10:28AM
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driftwood said..
I think a new build ,to current charter requirements is the easiest way to go.
Thanks guys for all your input
If you all know how many day's annually a 45 feet cat would be chartered for,and $$ annually gross return,that would be a starting point.


wise man

twodogs1969
NSW, 1000 posts
14 Dec 2017 11:36AM
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If you search there are a few booking agencies in Sydney who the boats book through maybe contact them

MorningBird
NSW, 2704 posts
14 Dec 2017 11:52AM
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Ramona said..
If there are boats from the same manufacturer of exactly the same design already in survey then core samples from fibreglass hulls may not be required. As always it depends a lot on who you deal with. There are only a handful of MSB surveyors and they need boats in survey to keep their jobs. Commercial fishing vessel numbers have fallen drastically and so have fishing charter boats. They need new people to torture!


I went through that as many S&S34s from Swarbricks were built to survey. No dice from RMS, theywill need to drill the cores. One near the keel, where it is up to 15cm thick, and one elsewhere. The very thought of it gave me the shivers.

driftwood
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14 Dec 2017 2:27PM
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twodogs1969 said..
If you search there are a few booking agencies in Sydney who the boats book through maybe contact them


I rang up one today,they said they were to busy to talk.
I'll try after xmas



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