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Carrying Spare Petrol

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Created by Relackson > 9 months ago, 14 Feb 2015
Relackson
13 posts
14 Feb 2015 11:16AM
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I'm thinking of buying a Seawind 1000 catamaran, and they have outboard motors and the two fuel tanks hold a total of between 100 and 120 litres of fuel.

I realise that I should carry spare fuel when cruising, and I also realise that one must be very, very careful with petrol (as compared to diesel).

How do others who have outboards carry their spare fuel on their boats?

I remember seeing somewhere (maybe on this site) sometime ago a photo of a yacht that had a 15-20cm board/plank held horizontally between two lifline stanchions, and a few 20 litre containers (plastic, I think) tied to the board. This looked about the best I could think of.

Also, what are the pros and cons of plastic 20 litre containers versus the metal ones?

Answers to these questions - and any other information - would be gratefully appreciated.

Thanks

Toph
WA, 1871 posts
14 Feb 2015 11:25AM
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I cant't answer the storage question, but metal v plastic, I would go with plastic. I have done lengthly drivining trips with plastic jerrys on the roof of my car with no sign of deteriation from the sun. I don't think the metal cans would hold up too well in a seawater environment. The plastic does expand when hot, and whether it is required or not, I just crack the cap once a day to take the pressure off..

HG02
VIC, 5814 posts
14 Feb 2015 4:33PM
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Toph said..
I just happened across this. It is on a FP and looks neat enough. I've linked it because I have never worked out how to add pictures

http://yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-catamarans/2004-fountaine-pajot-lavezzi-40/164773



Toph when you see a photo you would like to save to your PC right click on the mouse when your on the photo you want then look at the little menu in there and pick save as and another screen will pop up type in what you want to call it and I usually put int in your photo folder so if you look over to the left hand side of that pop up you can see your folders try it some time you cant hurt any thing
if you need any more info PM I'm no expert but I'm here to help any one




Toph
WA, 1871 posts
14 Feb 2015 2:07PM
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Thanks HG.... That much I knew, but how do you post the pictures here

Looks like I got the link wrong too But in anycase, to Relackson, in another photo, that basket on the back is lined with plastic jerry cans..

Relackson
13 posts
14 Feb 2015 2:13PM
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Thanks for your info. Toph.

As I tend to err toward the plastic containers, I was pleased to read what you said.

The ad. you referred me to is interesting - lots of containers; and in a novel position. But I see that the boat runs on diesel. I don't think I'd place petrol in this position - too close to the BBQ. It always worries me when I see a tender hanging of the davits with a petrol container in it - close to the BBQ.

FreeRadical
WA, 855 posts
14 Feb 2015 2:35PM
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We have done as you asked about and used timber strapped between 2 stanchions. Worked well.





HG02
VIC, 5814 posts
14 Feb 2015 10:05PM
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Toph said..
Thanks HG.... That much I knew, but how do you post the pictures here

Looks like I got the link wrong too But in anycase, to Relackson, in another photo, that basket on the back is lined with plastic jerry cans..


When you reply or quote on the bottom beside the little smiley icons it says add image to message click on that and it opens a gate way to your pc you guide it to your photo folder and mouse click the one you want to up load to sea breeze

cisco
QLD, 12361 posts
14 Feb 2015 11:41PM
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FreeRadical said..
We have done as you asked about and used timber strapped between 2 stanchions. Worked well.






That is very neat F R and certainly works for diesel storage. The problem with storing petrol in plastic containers in the sun is they build up a lot of pressure with the petrol trying to evaporate off in the heat.

Whatever anybody does, do NOT store petrol in containers below deck.

sirgallivant
NSW, 1531 posts
15 Feb 2015 1:50AM
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saltiest1
NSW, 2559 posts
15 Feb 2015 10:37AM
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that'd be the perfect place to store it if it wasn't the perfect place to store it if it leaked

sirgallivant
NSW, 1531 posts
15 Feb 2015 11:17AM
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Argh...actually l am deceiving you. Those two red twenty five litre jerries are filled with diesel beside the seventy litres in the s/s tank under the cockpit floor. That is enough for hundred hours+.
My petrol is in the self contained transom locker behind the jerries with it's own ventilation and drain hole trough the transom - safe for gas bottles, safe for fuel - and l only carry five litre petrol. I guess, it would be safe for petrol too as the cockpit has three inch scupper on both side and it drains in seconds

Ramona
NSW, 7727 posts
16 Feb 2015 8:36AM
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Relackson said..
I'm thinking of buying a Seawind 1000 catamaran, and they have outboard motors and the two fuel tanks hold a total of between 100 and 120 litres of fuel.

I realise that I should carry spare fuel when cruising, and I also realise that one must be very, very careful with petrol (as compared to diesel).

How do others who have outboards carry their spare fuel on their boats?

I remember seeing somewhere (maybe on this site) sometime ago a photo of a yacht that had a 15-20cm board/plank held horizontally between two lifline stanchions, and a few 20 litre containers (plastic, I think) tied to the board. This looked about the best I could think of.

Also, what are the pros and cons of plastic 20 litre containers versus the metal ones?

Answers to these questions - and any other information - would be gratefully appreciated.

Thanks



Seawinds sail reasonably well. Why carry so much fuel? I use my yacht at least once a week and get through about 40 litres a year. I usually have to motor at least 20 minutes a day.

If your going to store that much outboard fuel, ensure you steer clear of ethanol.

frant
VIC, 1230 posts
16 Feb 2015 10:34AM
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By convention its yellow for diesel and red for petrol. Looks like Dama and sirgal need to swap jerrycans

Relackson
13 posts
16 Feb 2015 10:08AM
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FreeRadical, that looks like what I was talking about. Do you have any troubles with the containers heating up and expanding - although I'm assuming you have diesel inside them?

Dama, do you have petrol or diesel in those containers? Again, if petrol, I'm concerned about having it too close to the BBQ.

Ramona, I'm considering doing coastal cruising; so just want to be on the safe side.

Thanks to you all for your input.

sirgallivant
NSW, 1531 posts
17 Feb 2015 4:05AM
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The chandler had only red cans when l left Moolloollaba. There was no option.

DAMA
QLD, 239 posts
17 Feb 2015 12:25PM
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Hi Relackson,
the photo was to show an option from Fleming marine.
I carry my fuel in jerry cans in front locker at present , but am looking at setting it up like the one in the picture , my BBQ is at stud end of transom and I will carry the petrol in the jerry cans mounted on the portside,

nswsailor
NSW, 1458 posts
17 Feb 2015 6:56PM
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frant said..
By convention its yellow for diesel and red for petrol. Looks like Dama and sirgal need to swap jerrycans



So what colour for water Frant? The clear white ones?

saltiest1
NSW, 2559 posts
17 Feb 2015 11:21PM
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usually blue. good to keep it out of light tho.

LooseChange
NSW, 2140 posts
17 Feb 2015 11:45PM
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It may be convention, but it is not a legal requirement. While it is smart to follow established conventions, if you choose not to, then you need to tag the fuel containers with the relevant I.D. to ensure no mix ups when required.

radar
NSW, 86 posts
18 Feb 2015 7:00AM
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the yamaha 9.9 4strokes on catamarans use about 1.2 liters
per hour per motor,so you have a good range with 120lts onboard
and the seawinds do sail well ,there are two crossing the atlantic
at the moment cheers ray

Ramona
NSW, 7727 posts
18 Feb 2015 9:02AM
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radar said..
the yamaha 9.9 4strokes on catamarans use about 1.2 liters
per hour per motor,so you have a good range with 120lts onboard
and the seawinds do sail well ,there are two crossing the atlantic
at the moment cheers ray


I agree. 120 litres is a lot of fuel. Adding all that extra weight with the extra fuel will reduce performance and economy and its a lot of petrol to worry about going off. The builders settled on 120 litres for a reason. Even though I see a few Seawinds with pot plants in the cockpit they are sensitive to weight like all cats.

RiffRaff
WA, 265 posts
18 Feb 2015 6:16AM
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It depends where you plan on cruising. My fuel tanks (Monohull) hold 220 Litres and going around the top I carried an additional 100 Litres.
It’s a long way between stops once you get north of Cairns and I imagine along the southern coast would be the same. Parts of North West of WA are also a long way between drinks.
Depending on the time of year and the timeframe you have you may need to run the motors for quite a few hours at a time.
120 Litres is not much more weight than your average adult male.
Of course if you are cruising up and down the East coast on weekends then there are plenty of places to pull in and refuel.



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