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Bieker Stealth Drive in Dehler30od

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Created by r13 > 9 months ago, 1 Oct 2019
r13
NSW, 1712 posts
1 Oct 2019 5:37PM
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If this drive system in the Dehler30od is not the bees knees I'll eat a carrot.


The boat itself imho is a bit fugly..........can understand reverse sheer in a Tasman22 but not in a 30footer.

Realise the present racing yacht design is aka Ran7 as below but for a racer-cruiser would have toned down the forward topside chines a tad....would have got rid of that upper full length chine altogether and just used the stern chines..........and made the stem less blunt......and shaped the cabin top a lot better it is too wedge shaped.......but good to see Dehler back as a brand of Hanse - the 34 3/4 tonner then racer cruiser is a classic with ~1200 built.

fast40class2019.com/ran-lifts-the-one-ton-cup

Chris 249
NSW, 3513 posts
1 Oct 2019 9:47PM
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Agree about the bow and the looks. At first I wondered how a boat that is much heavier than a Mumm 30 could be rated as fast or faster, then I checked out the rig size. I do wonder what the point is in putting a 33 footer's rig on a 30 footer. You get a lot of the cost of the 33 but have the limitations of the shorter overall length. The Dehler's interesting, but if you just extended the bow and stern and kept everything else the same it would be drier, prettier, and faster for very little cost. Why put a quart in a pint pot when the pint pot costs little more?

r13
NSW, 1712 posts
2 Oct 2019 5:28PM
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Yes well put. Many yachts in the 28-32 foot range have got trapped in the "over sizing" bubble........creating an ugly high sided and too beamy piece of.............see here the Elan 320 including twin wheels...........gimme a break.........it is 31.33ft!



sailboatdata.com/sailboat/elan-320

Always thought the Pacesetter 9 was a neat boat - shame more were not built.

www.elliott-marine.com/assets/Uploads/Elliott9-Cruising-racing-yacht-design-marine-GregElliott-sailboat-keelboat.pdf

yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/elliott-e-9/207760

All@Sea
TAS, 233 posts
2 Oct 2019 8:10PM
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Apart from the cabin shape, I doubt aesthetics have played much part in hull design. Form follows function. I think its about the most exciting boat I've seen in a long time... everything you need, nothing you don't. I do love the Mumm 30, but this one has a hull with a some form stability, and headroom! Winner.

All@Sea
TAS, 233 posts
3 Oct 2019 8:01AM
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PS, I' m pretty sure "The Cone Of Silence" had that prop system 15 years ago, and probably wasn't the first... and yes, I agree that the Elan looks bloated and should have (the optional) tillers, but it's a cruiser 'racer'.

boty
QLD, 685 posts
3 Oct 2019 8:08AM
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cone had a prop in a tunnel with trap doors this is the system that the 10 footers run cone was a supper cool boat this looks abit bummed down for a race boat and uncomfortable for a cruiser do like the prop system though



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