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aka or waksa ....kite clubs

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Created by GarryA > 9 months ago, 1 Jan 2013
GarryA
WA, 268 posts
1 Jan 2013 10:32AM
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I am a new kiter in Perth and have been kiting for about 12 years all ova the world.... and am from South - Africa now staying in Perth.

I agree with the fact of a club with rules, but I disagree with the fact if I want to enter a comp but cannot because I do not belong to a kiting club in Oz... so what happens with the PRO'S can they just enter cause they are on the pkra circuit......WRONG ( whats good for the goose is good for the ganda ).

if everybody adheres to the sailing rules and this is taught when a neewbie is been teached there would be less accidants and all will be happy. But how many instructors out there with a license to teach know the rules and also how many of them can really kite ????

And the youngsters that kite here... that think they are god to kiting that do not evan adhere to the simply rule do not jump infront of another kiter or do not jump upwind of another kiter or atleast judge your distance of about 25metres from another kiter...???? Depending on wind strength.

So all in all I kite because I love the sport and the freedom and with all this nonse of kite clubs before I can do a comp is total shyte to me, and they are killing the sport in my eyes and it is just a money making bussiness.

This is my thoughts...... LIVE TO FLY

Raz

dusta
WA, 2940 posts
1 Jan 2013 11:05AM
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First rant for the year .

your aksa membership gives you public liability insurance just in case you injure a member of the public . $120 a year is ****all . If you disagree with that then maybe perth isn't for you because there are a lot more expensive organisations to join rather than aksa .

GarryA
WA, 268 posts
1 Jan 2013 1:10PM
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dusta said...
First rant for the year .

your aksa membership gives you public liability insurance just in case you injure a member of the public . $120 a year is ****all . If you disagree with that then maybe perth isn't for you because there are a lot more expensive organisations to join rather than aksa .



This is not a rant..... just asking why must we always pay... dude

dusta
WA, 2940 posts
1 Jan 2013 7:22PM
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GarryA said...
dusta said...
First rant for the year .

your aksa membership gives you public liability insurance just in case you injure a member of the public . $120 a year is ****all . If you disagree with that then maybe perth isn't for you because there are a lot more expensive organisations to join rather than aksa .



This is not a rant..... just asking why must we always pay... dude



your post came across as nothing more than a clueless rant .

I posted the big benefit, the fact you are covered if by some freak chance you injure an innocent bystander your arse is covered .

That's all i have mine for .

It's a volunteer organisation as well so get in contact with the WAKSA state president and offer your help if you're keen .

Juddy
WA, 1103 posts
1 Jan 2013 10:48PM
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GarryA said...

I am a new kiter in Perth and have been kiting for about 12 years all ova the world.... and am from South - Africa now staying in Perth.

I agree with the fact of a club with rules, but I disagree with the fact if I want to enter a comp but cannot because I do not belong to a kiting club in Oz... so what happens with the PRO'S can they just enter cause they are on the pkra circuit......WRONG ( whats good for the goose is good for the ganda ).

if everybody adheres to the sailing rules and this is taught when a neewbie is been teached there would be less accidants and all will be happy. But how many instructors out there with a license to teach know the rules and also how many of them can really kite ????

And the youngsters that kite here... that think they are god to kiting that do not evan adhere to the simply rule do not jump infront of another kiter or do not jump upwind of another kiter or atleast judge your distance of about 25metres from another kiter...???? Depending on wind strength.

So all in all I kite because I love the sport and the freedom and with all this nonse of kite clubs before I can do a comp is total shyte to me, and they are killing the sport in my eyes and it is just a money making bussiness.

This is my thoughts...... LIVE TO FLY
Raz



Out of the frying pan, into the fire he steps, brand new 2013 model flame suit back on....

Garry, you've raised heaps of issues here so I'm going to focus on those that I'm qualified to answer:

1) entering comps etc: If you wanted to enter a tennis comp; chess comp; [insert any other sport/activity here] comp, you're going to have to join some sort of 'club'. If you know of any sport/recreation club that organises competitions or events for non-members, I'm happy for you to point them out.

All events held in public open space these days are required to have ridiculous amounts of public liability insurance - including kite comps. Without that insurance, no event gets held. Why should members of a club subsidise the expense of holding that comp if a kiter hasn't contributed (via membership) to the cost of holding an event?

I don't know the deal for 'pro's' on the PKRA or KWT but in previous years when "pro's" sought to attend WAKSA events, they were advised that if they wanted to come, they were more than welcome - once they joined WAKSA.

If you are referring to WAKSA and/or any of the other state associations in Aus as 'kite clubs', I'd call you out with your claim that they are "killing the sport" - the associations are all volunteer run organisations, there to advocate & represent kiters so that our sport has a voice to government & other bodies. I can also assure you that they are not "businesses" as you have suggested - these groups tend to scrape by on income from membership fees - fees that go back into comps & events for their respective members.

2) Right of way - you may have a point about how many people forget or don't know the correct rules - about distance, where to place the kite, distances for jumping, etc....it's not just 'youngsters' who need this reminder....

happy to discuss - PM me if you want?

Juddy



WAKSA
WA, 813 posts
2 Jan 2013 9:54AM
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Thank you Juddy,

I would like to second Juddy's post. I can not think of a sport where you do not have to be part of some sort of association in order to take part in "organised" events. Particularly in Australia where insurance and the "safety culture" seems to be prevalent.

For further discussion please PM me and I will try to answer any of your questions.

Kind Regards

Steve


dafrog
321 posts
2 Jan 2013 2:09PM
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GarryA said...

I am a new kiter in Perth and have been kiting for about 12 years all ova the world.... and am from South - Africa now staying in Perth.

I agree with the fact of a club with rules, but I disagree with the fact if I want to enter a comp but cannot because I do not belong to a kiting club in Oz... so what happens with the PRO'S can they just enter cause they are on the pkra circuit......WRONG ( whats good for the goose is good for the ganda ).

if everybody adheres to the sailing rules and this is taught when a neewbie is been teached there would be less accidants and all will be happy. But how many instructors out there with a license to teach know the rules and also how many of them can really kite ????

And the youngsters that kite here... that think they are god to kiting that do not evan adhere to the simply rule do not jump infront of another kiter or do not jump upwind of another kiter or atleast judge your distance of about 25metres from another kiter...???? Depending on wind strength.

So all in all I kite because I love the sport and the freedom and with all this nonse of kite clubs before I can do a comp is total shyte to me, and they are killing the sport in my eyes and it is just a money making bussiness.

This is my thoughts...... LIVE TO FLY

Raz




Garry is not worthy, quote from another post:

"Agree go home euro's cause they taking ova the beaches......haha
and don't take note of the sailing rules "

Garry, you are unwelcome.



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