G'day Kiters!
If you're a fan of downwinders, check out this out! Upwinder is a donations funded transport van running EVERY WINDY DAY this summer. Details and time are as listed on the flyer. We'd love some likes on our FB.
Make the most of your summer, make new friends, spend more time shredding and push yourself to kite like the ripper you want to be!
upwinder.weebly.com/
facebook.com/upwinderbywaterman
We've done a bit of research about this concept and would like to address a few concerns that have been raised about such a service.
Bad etiquette
Many kiters are concerned that this service would put our ability to do downwinders at risk due, to an increased number of kiters failing to respect other ocean users. We really hope that the OPPOSITE will be true. We aim to work with WAKSA, local councils and surf clubs so that we can educate kiters how BEST to behave, where NOT to go and what to do when things don't work. Currently, there is NOTHING stopping an uninformed kiters from shredding down the coast. These kiters that have not taken the time to learn from others are putting downwinders at risk of being disallowed. We hope that by providing a great environment, kiters will EDUCATE each other. We hope that by providing an ORGANISED environment for kiters, we will be able to INCREASE awareness, thereby protecting downwinders, not putting them at risk of being disallowed.
Cashing in
This is a donation funded service. The service will rely on kiters genuinely wanting this service for it to grow/stick around. If the community doesn't want it, it will disappear. It's VERY expensive to operate..... $10k van, $2k trailer, $1.6kpa insuranc, $.7kpa rego, the costs are huge.
Too busy
Hit up any of the normal kiting hot spots and on a busy day you'll find between 50 and 100 kiters sharing less than 500m of coast. This service will help 12 kiters access 20km of coastline. Within a few minutes, the pack will be completely spread out. Kiting downwind gets you much more space than kiting in just one location.
Do you guys provide the kite pumps? Otherwise, how do we get our pumps back upwind?
Have you guys got the relevant plates from DOT provide this service??
www.transport.wa.gov.au/taxis/shuttle-service-licences.asp
Thanks RPM,
We're in the process of getting plates and have been working with DOT for about 3 weeks now. Unfortunately it's slow as DOT are unable to provide clear direction. I am also working on getting an F Extension on my driver's licence. I believe this is required when anyone intends to transport people as part of a business.
As we're only starting on December 5th, we will have both licence and plates ready beforehand.
Good to know and well done. I'm sure that's if the wind gets is act together, you should get some business!
However I did see a old big school bus last weekend with a tribe of kiters unloading from it at Leighton. At least 10 of them maybe 12.
So I think you may have some competition!
Which may suck because I don't think that the market is big enough for 2 operators.
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This is a donation funded service. The service will rely on kiters genuinely wanting this service for it to grow/stick around.
How much money are you going to charge for the trip ?
Select to expand quotewaveslave said..seeker said..
This is a donation funded service. The service will rely on kiters genuinely wanting this service for it to grow/stick around.
How much money are you going to charge for the trip ?
Hey waveslave,
It's entirely up to you. We'll have some information about how much it costs to provide this service and you can choose what you'd like to pay. We will NOT know your personal contribution.
Costs for everything in Perth are quite large. We recommend donations that could buy between 1 and 3 pints of beer, or better still, give the driver a lift back to Leighton post session so he can enjoy a ride and retrieve the van!
If you're strapped for cash, don't feel obliged. If you enjoy the environment and what the service enables you to do, help keep it running.
Select to expand quoteseeker said..waveslave said..seeker said..
This is a donation funded service. The service will rely on kiters genuinely wanting this service for it to grow/stick around.
How much money are you going to charge for the trip ?
Hey waveslave,
It's entirely up to you.
If you're strapped for cash, don't feel obliged.
Would you be happy taking a gold coin ? ^^^
Seems to me like this donation scam is some kind of loophole to circumvent certain rules.
Or is it you can't nail down the price-point right at this moment ?
Or maybe you're the kite-fairy ?
lol.
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G'day Kiters!
If you're a fan of downwinders, check out this out! Upwinder is a donations funded transport van running EVERY WINDY DAY this summer. Details and time are as listed on the flyer. We'd love some likes on our FB.
Make the most of your summer, make new friends, spend more time shredding and push yourself to kite like the ripper you want to be!
upwinder.weebly.com/
facebook.com/upwinderbywaterman
Hi Ian young here, do you go to exmouth
3 pints at the Matisse is $39 . 3 pints at Ocean one is $30! . $ 20 would be a reasonable price.I would pay $20.I usually car pull and that has worked solid for 2 seasons so far without skipping a beat. 3 years back there was the transperth bus 381 .scarborough to freo at 1.30 pm stopping at every beach along the way.as far as I know that bus has been canceled this summer.It sounds like a great idea as there is always people trying to get into the car pulling groups .Certainly holidaying crew will benifit from the service.I would pay up to 60 for a lanos to wedge downwinder or a couple of hundred for a weekend trip with 4x4 support and camping ect
Hey waveslave,
If you're only prepared to pay a gold coin, that's fine, jump on board. It's how we choose to operate. We don't aim to scam or cheat anyone. We're working through the process with DOT and will have this established as a legit, legal, insured service. Choosing to let you decide how much to pay reflects what people value of the service. Additionally, it would be great to be able to provide additional services in the future that could benefit kiters more. Everything from lessons, to rentals, to demoing gear, to guided tours, to longer trips are all possible, but it's all up to what the community want from the sport.
cauncy,
Is that really Ian? Hahah, I hope so! In any case, stellar effort. I'd love to do something that huge and hope to do something similar one day!
diamond2001
Thanks for your positive feedback. We hope that this will enable kiters to meet new crews that they can choose to ride with and organise trips of their own with. Thanks for your ideas as well. We're briefly discussed with WAKSA opportunities to provide transport during Kite Stock. Get along to that! Again, as said to waveslave, happy to add services as the community indicate need.
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Hey waveslave,
If you're only prepared to pay a gold coin, that's fine, jump on board. It's how we choose to operate. We don't aim to scam or cheat anyone. We're working through the process with DOT and will have this established as a legit, legal, insured service. Choosing to let you decide how much to pay reflects what people value of the service. Additionally, it would be great to be able to provide additional services in the future that could benefit kiters more. Everything from lessons, to rentals, to demoing gear, to guided tours, to longer trips are all possible, but it's all up to what the community want from the sport.
cauncy,
Is that really Ian? Hahah, I hope so! In any case, stellar effort. I'd love to do something that huge and hope to do something similar one day!
diamond2001
Thanks for your positive feedback. We hope that this will enable kiters to meet new crews that they can choose to ride with and organise trips of their own with. Thanks for your ideas as well. We're briefly discussed with WAKSA opportunities to provide transport during Kite Stock. Get along to that! Again, as said to waveslave, happy to add services as the community indicate need.
Good onya, Haters are always gonna hate.
It would be great to demo kites on downwinders.Especially if you could line up 4 kites over a 4 day period and nail that perfect kite for the quiver. That I would pay extra for!
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It would be great to demo kites on downwinders.Especially if you could line up 4 kites over a 4 day period and nail that perfect kite for the quiver. That I would pay extra for!
Great way to market your store imo
