Alex Lockie - GM for KA will be here on the Gold Coast for the 4 days of the NKL over on Seaworld Drive.
12-15 November www.nklseries.com (You should have entered the NKL as well by now)
Come and say Hi and have a chat with here anytime!
This is a great idea - and we can make this happen Qld!
I have copied the whole DOC but the Qld part in bold at the bottom is worth noting!
Become a Kiteboarding Australia Instructor January 2016 ITC Course and Conversion Courses for existing qualified Instructors KA is developing the first Australian national training program for kiteboarding instructors.
This is a massive step forward allowing training opportunities for Australians to become qualified as kiteboarding instructors.
For students this means standardized operating and risk management procedures and a more consistent offering across the country.
This is a big leap forward!!
In January 2016, KA will start offering Instructor Training Course (ITC) and Conversion Courses for existing qualified instructors!
KA is now offering transitional memberships to existing qualified instructors (BKSA/IKO/VDWS...) and schools for the coming season. Sign up now!
WA Based Candidates
Keen to become a kiteboarding Instructor? Attend an Instructor Training Course (ITC) Kitesurf Warehouse will be running the first KA Accredited ITC, this pilot Kiteboarding Australia ITC will be taught by Andy Gratwick (BKSA Corporate Services & Training) and will give attendees reciprocal recognition under the BKSA Curriculum.
Details Dates: 6 January - 10 January Cost: $899.00 (valued at $1250 - pilot special offer)
Content: review the KA Curriculum, practical teaching skills, understanding weather and conditions, site assessment, risk management Accreditation: valid for 3 years Numbers are limited, if you are interested in attending the ITC please reply here.
It is likely that this course will sell out, so please reply ASAP.
We will be in touch with further information.
Keen to revalidate or access cheaper insurance for your school/instructors?
Attend a Conversion Course In addition to the ITC, KA will have Andy Gratwick (BKSA Corporate Services & Training) in Perth on 4 January to conduct a conversion course for existing qualified (BKSA/IKO/VDWS...) instructors to become accredited as KA Instructor Members.*
Details Dates: 5 & 11 January subject to demand Cost: $200 Content: review the KA Curriculum, identify differences to the curriculum you are currently teaching, brush up on practical teaching skills Accreditation: valid for 3 years
If you are interested in attending that Conversion Course please reply here with a brief summary of your experience to date.
We will be in touch with a pre-course form and further information.
*Note: all KA Instructor Members who are resident in Perth should take the opportunity to attend unless there are extenuating circumstances.
QUEENSLAND:
We have not yet confirmed if Andy Gratwick will be attending conversion courses on the East Coast as yet this season.
This does not mean that there will not be a roll out of the curriculum on the East Coast, it is just likely to occur later in 2016.
However, if we receive overwhelming interest in a conversion course to the KA Curriculum on the East Coast we will seek to organise this on one day between 11 and 13 January (1 DAY COURSE) at the most conveniently located capital city to interested instructors.
Details Dates: ONE DAY between 11 and 13 January subject to demand
Location: TBC - express your interest and we will host it near you!
Cost: $200 Content: review the KA Curriculum, identify differences to the curriculum you are currently teaching, brush up on practical teaching skills Accreditation: valid for 3 years
If you are interested in converting your existing (IKO/BKSA/VDWS...) qualification to become a fully accredited a KA Instructor Member please reply here with your experience and location.
If you would like to be kept on a mailing list for future ITC on the East Coast, please reply here. If you have further questions, queries or concerns please email training@kiteboardingaus.com
Kind regards
Alexandra Lockie
General Manager | Kiteboarding Australia Limited
10 years to late mate.
all the aussie schools have allready figured out you can just employ euros and one season wonders for 3/4 the cost of an aussie ($30ph vs $45) and there is absolutely zero reason for any of those euros to fork out EVEN MORE money for a piece of paper they allready have. and any of the aussies stupid enough to pick this up rather then just doing a IKO course is severely limiting there work oppurtunites abroad.
the only reason why the "insert country name here Kiteing Organisation" works is because there COURSE FEES match that countrys INCOME take a look at the polish one for example!
you want to charge us MORE for LESS
good ****ing luck to your entire organisation mate your going to bloody need it!
Select to expand quoteKBQNT said..
first Australian national training program for kiteboarding instructors.
What's the difference between Australian and International (IKO) training programs? Are winds here more gentle or something?
My Perspective....
There are many good reasons to support a KA instructors curriculum. First of all is quality - Kitethrills has been a leading school since before the IKO existed. Ive seen teaching standards rise after AKSA promoted the IKO qualification (and associated accidents, injuries, and negative press around the sport decline). Ive also watched as schools around the country (including mine) became disillusioned with the IKO and its strong focus on revenue raising and the associated behaviour around that. In conjunction with this quality standards, of both IKO instructors schools and non-IKO schools is in decline.
KA is here to benefit the sport and develop and improve governance. With this will be recognition by government agencies most importantly the Australian Sports Commission, which will in turn open access to sports development grants.
On the topic of instruction, and training of coaches, an example of this benefit that we can look forward to as schools is that a recognised course that is part of the Training Australia framework, can also be part of a bigger certificate 3 in outdoor recreation, which will enable an apprenticeship style training regime, for school based trainees as well as regular public. There are significant government funds available for school based trainees and employers to support them. So with a KA curriculum, approved by government, the schools and shops can access government funds as incentives to take on trainees as instructors. Also the trainees get their tuition fees supported by government also.This is just one tangible obvious benefit to support the improvement of good governance of our peak body.The KA ITC is cheaper than IKO and will be more relevant than the IKO to our Australian schools and instructors. It will be more flexible and can adapt to the needs of the schools and instructors. It will be driven by an organisation that is here to serve the sport in Australia and its members, rather than an organisation in the DR with a very strong profit motive.
Of course it a process to manage the change, but its a change that will be worthwhile. Also it's definitely coming and the conversion of most reputable kite centres will take place over a few years no doubt. So the negative approach of "good f**ing luck mate" is something that will likely leave a school or instructor looking unprofessional. There are a lot of different curriculums worldwide, France, Germany, UK and USA all have different courses (BKSA, VDWS, IKO, and many others)
So thats my perspective. For the record, I am not yet a KA accredited school or instructor, but i intend to become these. Bring on the professional development, increased professional governance of our sport and the positive attitude and approach to change that is needed to keep our sport awesome.
I intend to support this. Im facilitating an instructors course and a conversion course from any of the other accreditations for like minded East Coast instructors and centre managers. I have don the same a handful times with IKO courses but the last time was over 10 years ago. An Australian government approved course is something I can support and can see our sport needs. Im stoked KA is driving this and happy to get my support behind them. The instructor cousre is nearly full for teh East Coast so if you want to be part of the change then get on it quick. kiteboardingaus.com.au/get-involved/become-a-kiteboarding-instructor/
Blah blah blah... wank wank wank.
In other words - give us your ****ing money for a wanky course. Thank you very much. See ya later.
Most trainers are useless IMO, and teach by using teaching time as an excuse to ride. "Ohh look at mee... see? dats how ya do it!"
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Blah blah blah... wank wank wank.
In other words - give us your ****ing money for a wanky course. Thank you very much. See ya later.
Most trainers are useless IMO, and teach by using teaching time as an excuse to ride. "Ohh look at mee... see? dats how ya do it!"
what **** are you on about? every school ive ever worked has allways had a strict no rideing or jumping policy. if at end lesson student requests for you to do some silly **** then some schools MAY let you id say 80% wont because its there equipment that has a set limit of uses. every movement puts kite under tension every minute adds to uv damage they NEED there gear to last and as an instructor thats where your paycheck comes from.
**** you talk some **** lofty
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The KA ITC is cheaper than IKO and will be more relevant than the IKO to our Australian schools and instructors.
So the negative approach of "good f**ing luck mate" is something that will likely leave a school or instructor looking unprofessional.
ka itc $1250 IKO $900
and since when is "luck" negative? net alone "good ****ing luck" ?
speaking of unprofesional that diatribe of bullocks you said about australian students getting tax payers money to learn to teach kitesurfing hahahahaha please what bull**** delusional crap did they feed you for you to actually believe that? its a tafe course now? where instructors will be benefited like apprentices ? hahahaha seriously are you trying to send this to heavey weather?
and how are you glassing over fact that KAI or whatever its called is not recognised by ANYONE not even you at the moment. yet your saying IKO is being less recognised more and more?!? by who??
whole main point of all of this is that AUSTRALIAN schools only want to hire foreign instructors who are on holidays because they can pay them $30 (give or take) an hour where as locals charge $45 (give or take)
all KA has been desperately trying to do since its very inception is make money
you turn around and say you dont like how IKO is so money focused?!?!?!
the KA wants to do nothing more then have EVERY kitesurfing be registered "for ****ing safety no doubt bull**** country were in" and with that registration has "insurance which never pays out" now once thats happened there will be a membership HIKE everytime theres an accident. theyll cry "the insurance company is chargeing us more because of all the accidents this year" and well sit there like ****ing muppets with NO CHOICE but to pay this annual fee! then theyll section it off just like they had before with state sections then there will be club fees
this **** isnt new at all its same as every other ****ing sport in this country.
i gotto pay $400 a year wherever i fly or not for my sport flying clubs and IF I DONT and i fly its ILLEGAL i get fined to death and jail
and you want that same bull**** sytem to happen with kiteboarding?!!?
**** THAT
copy the surfers let it be free for all
if you want to work as a kiteboard instructor get a international qualification and work abroad the whole point of it is to travel and kite in good conditions not these ****ty conditions in australia anyways
AND if your doing EXACTLY THAT as a foriegner in australia then GOOD NEWS due to insurance costs and council aprovals your forced to work for far less for someone else (god damn greedy iko so money based and revenue focused! with there $40 a year fee to stay current and there $800-1k$ course fee (unlike whateevr bull**** this one in aus is which last i looked $300 aitc $1250 for ITC and will inevidbly lead to a ****ing mandatory annual fee of $125 to KA and thats not includeing whatever there going to chuck on the end as a instructor annual fee which im sure some numpty is busy drawing down on a napkin then IF this **** ACTUALLY takes off its going to be like all those other clubs with more rules more regulations more fees more and more some assholes trying get rich
i still cant believe your suggesting government fundings going to happen for kiteschools i swear i read apprenticeship there somewhere hahahaha
nothing personal kitethrills but whats the real DEAL ? your getting some sort of early adopter DEAL where you only have to pay 40% of the course fees and your current instructors get there qualifications abridged for free rather then the what? $300 they want per instructor? something like that? because if i was you i wouldnt be paying a god damn dime.
"also be part of a bigger certificate 3 in outdoor recreation" etc etc etc trainee trainee schools get trainees ?!?! please are you trying to tell me PART of a CERT 3 TAFE COURSE will be counted in your kitesurf instructor course? you know the 5 day one or whatever it is ? how big a part are we talking here? because i can tell you now the student gets DICK for attending a 5day course of any kind. they get f all part time for a whole year.
this trainee word .... are you saying.... rather then PAY the 1250$ for the course your going to make kids work at the shop on a traineeship for like .... months? and you will pay them .... nothing.... because its part of there traineeship to be a kitesurf instructor?? ohhhhh wow please tell me thats the direction this ****ing bull**** is going hahahaha **** i thought we were robbing them before but thats just genius. like how its okay to put the 20 yr old beach boy on $14 an hour because he never finished his itc and only did an aitc? now he will be "training" genius pure genius what a benefit to all these up and comeing instructors
so your going to do the PADI divecenter thing and get free labour for the whole season with this new kiteboarding australia itc certification ****ing beutiful WHERE DO I SIGN UP?!!?
I will be doing this course with Mick in January.
You say all other sports have gone this way (not sure which way, maybe if i just say f***kin&÷'**c*t). If All other sports have gone this way, maybe there is reason to be found in that? Simple eh?
If you can tie your shoelaces you can pick up a board and give surfing a go. Equating surfing with kiting does not work.
Why the major concern? Whats the angle?
Select to expand quoteKozzie said..loftywinds2 said..
Blah blah blah... wank wank wank.
In other words - give us your ****ing money for a wanky course. Thank you very much. See ya later.
Most trainers are useless IMO, and teach by using teaching time as an excuse to ride. "Ohh look at mee... see? dats how ya do it!"
what **** are you on about? every school ive ever worked has allways had a strict no rideing or jumping policy. if at end lesson student requests for you to do some silly **** then some schools MAY let you id say 80% wont because its there equipment that has a set limit of uses. every movement puts kite under tension every minute adds to uv damage they NEED there gear to last and as an instructor thats where your paycheck comes from.
**** you talk some **** lofty
Stop frothing mate. Obvious you're a struggling instructor like most REAL instructors - and not your averge euro that comes on a working visa (or not even!) and gets some work teaching kiting and then disappears never to be seen again. I've seen it. And yeah - I've seen trainers go for a "look at me" ride on a kite. they are either bored ****less repeating themselves over and over to the student without any results and get to the point of "oh **** this.. give me the kite.. I'll show you how it's done". It happens man. A lot of instructors are too young, too inexperienced themselves, pretty looking (ie: useless), and dangerous in my view. How many times I've heard so-and-so not learn the self-rescue PROPERLY out in open deep water, I should be rich from those stories by now. 
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I will be doing this course with Mick in January.
You say all other sports have gone this way (not sure which way, maybe if i just say f***kin&÷'**c*t). If All other sports have gone this way, maybe there is reason to be found in that? Simple eh?
If you can tie your shoelaces you can pick up a board and give surfing a go. Equating surfing with kiting does not work.
Why the major concern? Whats the angle?
canopy sports and aviation sports huntings got some simular **** in it to. you want to regulate a sport then deem an organisation incharge of it so that they can collect money for forced insurance and membership policies.
and people die every day surfing what are you on about? you think you can just chuck grandma out on a surfboard and shell come back? ill happily teach a 70 year old to kitesurf no way in hell im teaching a 70 year old how to surf.
funny thing is useing your analogy ive taught people who couldnt tie there shoes to kitesurf. they could tie there friends shoes but they sure as hell couldnt tie there own.
reason the other sports went that way is because of knee jerk reactions to people going splat alot and sometimes going splat into crowds.
at end of the day ALLLLLLL thats happened here is someones figured out HAY! someone else is makeing money doing THIS! lets DO IT TO!
there is no ****ing need for it.
as for the struggleing instructor lofty
ill take $1.5k in the hand jackhammering up slabs 5 days a week and 2 days of kiteing and flying over
$700 a week for yelling at old men in waist deep water with no kiteing or flying
Kozz, you didn't address/understand my points, but it doesn't really matter. If there is no need for it then let that be so.
If the negativity stems from the fact that you have something to loose then thats what I'm interested in. What do you have to loose? The KA fees? Is that all?
Personally I go local wherever i can.
being able to kitesurf without having to pay someone money every year just to do so is one thing.
being forced into having to pay 2 lots of instructor fees annually is another.
being forced to pay for insurance annual just as a kiter is yet another.
with all that they will then have "kiteboarding allowed zones" because well have some ****wits representing us and will cut deals with council thus reduceing even more locations to kite.
same old pattern happens to every ****ing sport.
if you think thats "supporting local" your a peanut
Sorry you feel that Kozzie,
No one is forcing anyone to do anything - you can still kite with out membership or insurance or any oter sort of interaction with anyone. Also you can still teach people with no insurance, qualification or even equipment if you can get people to pay for it.
This ITC is just about self improvement. doing things better. more professionally. however you want to look at it. You dont have to do it and you also sont have to get upset if other people want to do it for themselves.
Your question to me was answered in my previous post - my interest in this is that I believe it will benefit the sport here. Yes people make money doing things for and even with other people. thats life - thats how the economy works - its not inherently evil or wrong. I have no problem with KA or anyone else making money from their efforts. I cant see your problem with this. Im a qualified Geologist and chose to work in kitesurfing because I love it. I could be alot wealthier living in the desert somewhere. This is not about the money for me.
Kozzie you need to check your facts - most of your paragraphs are based on incorrect facts - eg surfing - instructors courses are not free. eg Forced memberships and qualifications - not true. Eg kiteboarder insurance never pays out - not true.
My comment regarding your negative approach was not based on you saying good luck. It was more about everything you said. Loose the paranoia bro - no one is going to force you to do anything. No one is out to ruin the sport or steal everyones money or ...... cut deals with councils... or ...
this post by KA was simply to inform people of what they doing, which i believe is a positive step. I want to support their movement because i can see being good for everyone who is involved with it, students, instructors, schools, KA, and Government bodies. Kozzie your opinions have been heard and you're entitled to express them. I just hop your readers cross check youre facts and form their own opinions.
Select to expand quoteKozzie said...
being able to kitesurf without having to pay someone money every year just to do so is one thing.
being forced into having to pay 2 lots of instructor fees annually is another.
being forced to pay for insurance annual just as a kiter is yet another.
with all that they will then have "kiteboarding allowed zones" because well have some ****wits representing us and will cut deals with council thus reduceing even more locations to kite.
same old pattern happens to every ****ing sport.
if you think thats "supporting local" your a peanut
Just as I suspected, nothing but peanuts.
