Takes out the IDS system and put's it back to a single front line flagging safety...
Useful for schools because if it flips, you can thread the bar back thru the middle lines to fix it on the water...
Bringing the V of the front lines down lower also changes the turning characteristics for the pro's...
Also with the back bridle and back lines set on "light bar pressure" + pro kit + good wind = very fast turning kite DON'T KNOCK IT TILL YOU GIVE IT TIME AND TRY IT cause i thought the same (dull boring not what Cabrinha claimed) but all the nomad needs is wind and its a totally awsum kite im 95kg and for sure i need the 13m but on the other hand with a 6'2 surfboard ive had the 11m fully powered up on all the Goldy wind so far max 20knts and never been over powered yet so who knows what the max wind this 11m could handle
You will have to check with your local shop for pro kit price but FULLY RECOMMENDED then change settings to "LIGHT BAR SETTINGS" you will love the difference
Does the kit totally replace your front lines? or just extend them down.
It sounds really good to me - being able to access one front line without walking half way to the kite would make self landing so much cleaner. Like 2008 bar set up.
would have to agree ^^^^, self landing ids is annoying, is the pro kit just for the nomad or all ids kites...
The pro kit replaces the ids on the chicken (like last years ids) and the internal ids line and moves the ids approx a arms length away with a safety loop with it it makes a huge difference to the responsiveness of the kite
Finally got out on the 11m Nomad in some decent wind, averaging between 20 and 25kn with some higher gusts. The kite totally rocks! Still smiling, even though I can hardly walk......
Only about half the depower pulled on, so still more to go til the top end. Flew it on the faster tuning settings on both a 135x40 tt and a Naish 5'5" strapped fish. I'm 75kg.
Handling was great, very smooth in the air, great boost and float in the jumps, certainly likes to be flown fast and develops more power the faster you go. Turning was also very smooth, the kite looped with no hint of fluttering. Relaunch was very easy in that much wind.
Rode it yesterday in winds that were averaging 17-18kn, was a bit underpowered for real fun on the TT, but suited the surfboard quite well, with good upwind speed and moderate boost in the jumps.
So, after some initial disappointment with the low end of the kite (in 14-16knots), I feel like I understand its niche a lot better now, and am fully impressed with the ride in 20-25knots which is the mid to upper end of its designated wind range.
It will fit well in my quiver of 12m / 8m switchies, as the 20-25knot range has always been a bit of a dilemma with that quiver.
Rhys,
With the IDS Pro upgrade, my understanding was that when attaching to the "oh S**t strap, it does not flag the kite on 1 line as you mentioned but rather on both front lines, thus flipping the kite on its back just as if one was using the stock IDS setup.
IWB - yep your right, my mistake.
The Pro kit flags to both front lines, exactly the same as the IDS system would. Havn't tried it yet - but i'm learning quickly how to get the most bottom end out of the 11 Nomad... ![]()
Ride fast - board speed makes all the difference...
Use a faster board, flat rockered twintip or flat rockered surfboard like the Slingshot Celeritas
Fly the kite fast - keep it depowered and let your kite speed do all the powering untill you've got your board speed.
Put it on the 'Light' setting rather than 'Lighter (on the kite)
On the bridle, put it the adjustment knot ABOVE the 'light' setting, where the other line attaches.
Top knot on the back lines (obviously)
I'll try and get a photo next time i'm out - But basically take that 'light' 'lighter' bridle line off the knots it's on. Thread the larks head over where you would normally attach your rear lines, and slide it right up to that V in the bridle.
The Calibre isn't by any means a flat board... I'm talking about FLX, Prodigy, Lunacy kind of flat... With the Calibre you'll need your weight riiiiiight forward, that front fin needs to be skimming the water.
Think the reply from Cabrinha support is very fair.
I have flown the 9 Nomad back to back with the 8 SB ids in between 16 - 20 knots.
Nomad lighter setting, middle knot. Didnt feel good at all. Unresponsive.
Then launched my SB, felt much better, more powerfull etc.
Decided to give the Nomad another go on 3rd knot for most power. That did it for the Nomad. Quick responsive kite, no backstall, really nice.
Yes the SB has the best lowend. But the Nomad can come really close. It just requires more active riding.
On the other side, the highend seems to be huge
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With that said, i'd suggest to ride a bigger board:
A bigger board helps you get going earlier. Also bigger boards have some other advantages aswell.
Caliber is a great board. Nice rocker and outline to give a good 'freedom' sensation when riding. I would rather stay home than to ride a flatter board
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Im 85kg and riding a 138, and even a 144 board since a few weeks. It feels great.
Remember: You are more likely to reach the lowend of your board, rather then reaching the highend of it.
Interesting thread this as I changed from a quiver of SBs to Nomads a couple of months ago - I now have Nomad 7, 9 & 11 and agree with most of what has been said.
My first flight was dissapointing as I was comparing to SB but, now I get how to use the kite, I love it - I realise that the SB is a lazy mans kite - very easy to fly, relaunch etc (and a very good at what it does, I'm not knocking it). But you need more skill to get the most out of the Nomad and it pays you back nicely.
Just to add to the relaunch - it is a bit more technical to relaunch than the SB for sure... doesn't flip up as quick as the SB (which people are perceiving as 'bad') but the biggest thing that clicked for me was that you should try reverse launching it in marginal winds by pulling both steering lines together - it will rise off the water like you are a Jedi Master, you can then flip it 180 and it will fly up to 12.
I am using my 11 in the same winds as my 10 SB - 14-20kts - no worries, just need to work up your speed. And the 9 in 20-30kts... I never use / need depower. Then the 7 kicks in nicely from 25kts up. I am an 85kg bloater! But the Nomad definitely comes alive when it is fully lit!
hey im 85 kgs and ride strapless surfboards mostly and a bit of twin tip, i just got a 13m and 9m nomad. Im stoked with the kites! did a downwinder 2 days ago in 13kt winds on the 13m thinking there wasnt enough wind, and ended up having a epic surf. then week before took the 9m out in 25-30kt winds in 5ft waves and had another epic getting up to 6 turns and renos on waves! loving both kites and im seing my riding style improve straight away,(from riding a xbow2) as these kite dont want to fall out of the sky when u pull onto waves! I have taken both kites out when on the twinny to do some freestyle stuff, but it is better to do while it is nuking, but they still boost and float pretty good.
The only other thing is that when the wind is light they are a little bit harder to relaunch than the switchy or xbow, but its a different relaunch technique as its a more trad C shape, so i usually push the bar all the way out so the kite sits on its edge and then yank hard on one of the outer lines and up it goes.. when its windy there is no problem with relaunch like usual by yanking on one line.
Also with having the light and lighter settings it gives you a wider range of kite characterisics eg turning faster/ slower, bar pressure and picking up or less wind...
both kites turn fast and loop easy..
overall i am impressed with my 2 new kite :) :) :)